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callumfreeman
25-10-2016
If you have kids, it is okay for your crimes to be covered up.

Or don't report them as the guilty person has "suffered" enough, and there would be no point in reporting them.

Good advice from the show, if I witness a crime happening I shall lie to the police, as the guilty party being arrested won't change anything.

If that is the case, why should Clayton be sent down? For all we know he may have felt guilt for what he did, so surely (by Corrie's logic) that is enough for him to be let off?
Louise_Hart
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“If you have kids, it is okay for your crimes to be covered up.

Or don't report them as the guilty person has "suffered" enough, and there would be no point in reporting them.

Good advice from the show, if I witness a crime happening I shall lie to the police, as the guilty party being arrested won't change anything.

If that is the case, why should Clayton be sent down? For all we know he may have felt guilt for what he did, so surely (by Corrie's logic) that is enough for him to be let off?”

BIB He never showed any guilt what so ever, He tried to play on the fact he was a minor.

But I agree I think David should tell the truth and take his punishment, Its only fair.
Makson
25-10-2016
I'm finding it disgusting that Gail, Sarah and Nick are going to crazy lengths to protect David and keep playing the "Max and Lily have already lost their mother, they can't lose their father too" card when trying to guilt trip the likes of Robert into keeping quiet.
David is clearly a deeply troubled individual who has needed psychiatric help for quite some time now.
You'd think that almost killing his own daughter would be the last straw for the Platts to demand him to seek help or face his punishment, but no, they are trying to sweep everything under the carpet. I just don't believe that Gail would endanger Max and Lily's lives by having a disturbed David around them.
It's utter garbage
danyell
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Louise_Hart:
“BIB He never showed any guilt what so ever, He tried to play on the fact he was a minor.

But I agree I think David should tell the truth and take his punishment, Its only fair.”

How do you know Clayton hasn't felt guilty? We never see him to know.
Ten_Ben
25-10-2016
It happens all the time. It's no different to EastEnders with Jane and Ian covering for Bobby and talking Sharon/Phil etc into keeping quiet.
sam_gee
25-10-2016
Anna has gone to pretty extreme lengths to keep Gary out of prison and 'protect' him from the consequences of his behaviour too. I wonder if Gail would be prepared to make such a big sacrifice, and have sex with Phelan if it kept David out of trouble...
bornfree
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by sam_gee:
“Anna has gone to pretty extreme lengths to keep Gary out of prison and 'protect' him from the consequences of his behaviour too. I wonder if Gail would be prepared to make such a big sacrifice, and have sex with Phelan if it kept David out of trouble...”

I am not sure about that
notdebbiedingle
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“I am not sure about that”

Knowing Gail she'd probably marry him!!!
bornfree
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Knowing Gail she'd probably marry him!!! ”

Husband no 20th
STUFFY
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Knowing Gail she'd probably marry him!!! ”

Surely even a louse like Phelan has some standards!

Then looking at his record, Anna and Eileen, perhaps not!,
sam_gee
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Knowing Gail she'd probably marry him!!! ”



Then poor Phelan's days would be numbered.
Evilredzebra
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by sam_gee:
“Anna has gone to pretty extreme lengths to keep Gary out of prison and 'protect' him from the consequences of his behaviour too. I wonder if Gail would be prepared to make such a big sacrifice, and have sex with Phelan if it kept David out of trouble...”

Gail might, not so sure about Phelan!
Jimmy Connors
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Knowing Gail she'd probably marry him!!! ”



The poor man!
Janet43
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“

The poor man! ”

That would guarantee his exit by dying/being killed.
Hankshaw
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“If you have kids, it is okay for your crimes to be covered up.”

No but it puts things into a different perspective when those children have lost their Mum and are at risk of losing their Dad because he is unable to deal with the loss of his wife.

Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Or don't report them as the guilty person has "suffered" enough, and there would be no point in reporting them.”

Having your wife die in your arms not "suffering" enough for you?

Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“Good advice from the show, if I witness a crime happening I shall lie to the police, as the guilty party being arrested won't change anything.”

Well that depends on the crime doesn't it and the circumstances.

Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“If that is the case, why should Clayton be sent down? For all we know he may have felt guilt for what he did, so surely (by Corrie's logic) that is enough for him to be let off?”

Originally Posted by danyell:
“How do you know Clayton hasn't felt guilty? We never see him to know.”

I'd doubt the sort of person who carries a knife, attacks girls and stabs them to death is preoccupied with feelings of remorse.

Originally Posted by Makson:
“I'm finding it disgusting that Gail, Sarah and Nick are going to crazy lengths to protect David and keep playing the "Max and Lily have already lost their mother, they can't lose their father too" card when trying to guilt trip the likes of Robert into keeping quiet.”

It's a good card to play. What relevance does guilt tripping Robert have?

Originally Posted by Makson:
“You'd think that almost killing his own daughter would be the last straw for the Platts to demand him to seek help or face his punishment, but no, they are trying to sweep everything under the carpet. I just don't believe that Gail would endanger Max and Lily's lives by having a disturbed David around them.
It's utter garbage”

Lily being in the middle of the street had nothing to do with David. He certainly needs help. The reactions in this thread are OTT.
Silent-Tears
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Makson:
“I'm finding it disgusting that Gail, Sarah and Nick are going to crazy lengths to protect David and keep playing the "Max and Lily have already lost their mother, they can't lose their father too" card when trying to guilt trip the likes of Robert into keeping quiet.
David is clearly a deeply troubled individual who has needed psychiatric help for quite some time now.
You'd think that almost killing his own daughter would be the last straw for the Platts to demand him to seek help or face his punishment, but no, they are trying to sweep everything under the carpet. I just don't believe that Gail would endanger Max and Lily's lives by having a disturbed David around them.
It's utter garbage”

Poor David I do think he needs some kind of therapy to sort his issue's but I do enjoy watching him as a loving dad.
skteosk
26-10-2016
I think the OP is spot on. We're (rightly) supposed to cheer Clayton getting sent down but the arguments being spouted in David's defence equally apply to him. He's got family who wanted to help him out and sending him to jail doesn't help Kylie. David seems just as bad as him. He knowingly constructed a makeshift firebomb and was willingly to use it to murder innocent people and leave his children without a father just to get revenge. As a result, a completely innocent bystander has been left seriously injured and several other people have been put in danger. Yet it feels like we're supposed to sympathise with the Platts as they close ranks and cover for him. It's Tracy starting the Victoria Court fire all over again.
Orchideam
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“No but it puts things into a different perspective when those children have lost their Mum and are at risk of losing their Dad because he is unable to deal with the loss of his wife.



Having your wife die in your arms not "suffering" enough for you?



Well that depends on the crime doesn't it and the circumstances.





I'd doubt the sort of person who carries a knife, attacks girls and stabs them to death is preoccupied with feelings of remorse.



It's a good card to play. What relevance does guilt tripping Robert have?



Lily being in the middle of the street had nothing to do with David. He certainly needs help. The reactions in this thread are OTT.”

The reactions in this thread are frightening, and way, way OTT.

So, David planted his child in the middle of the road and then drove straight at her? That is the inference in here from one poster alone.

I do wonder how many are long term Corrie viewers, and how many have just turned up for the storyline last week.
Eurostar
26-10-2016
I'm finding this aspect of constantly evading justice and the authorities infuriating and it's sending out all the wrong messages.

Besides, the Platts could have had David sectioned last week and told doctors he posed a serious and imminent suicide risk.....no need to involve the police at all.
sam_gee
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“I'm finding this aspect of constantly evading justice and the authorities infuriating and it's sending out all the wrong messages.

Besides, the Platts could have had David sectioned last week and told doctors he posed a serious and imminent suicide risk.....no need to involve the police at all.”

Yes, and the Platts haven't even mentioned getting him psychiatric help. They seem to think all his issues can be solved by them all rallying round and sheltering him from the consequences of what he's done. Maybe they'll lock him in the cellar to keep him from harm's way - it worked pretty well last time.
callumfreeman
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by sam_gee:
“Yes, and the Platts haven't even mentioned getting him psychiatric help. They seem to think all his issues can be solved by them all rallying round and sheltering him from the consequences of what he's done. Maybe they'll lock him in the cellar to keep him from harm's way - it worked pretty well last time.”

It's okay, Clayton is sent down therefore David's unstable behaviour is completely swept under the carpet. At least until a couple of years when the writers get bored and make him "Demon David" again over something else, where he will no doubt endanger another person's life but get off with it due to the flimsy excuse "what good will it do sending him down, hasn't he suffered enough?"

Seriously David could blow up the whole street and murder everyone (bar the Platts) but they would still cover up for him, as Gail's excuse would be "Everyone in the street is dead, but locking up David can't change that".
Eurostar
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by sam_gee:
“Yes, and the Platts haven't even mentioned getting him psychiatric help. They seem to think all his issues can be solved by them all rallying round and sheltering him from the consequences of what he's done. Maybe they'll lock him in the cellar to keep him from harm's way - it worked pretty well last time.”

He was clearly undergoing a psychotic episode last week - planning a spectacular murder / suicide is the actions of someone who is no longer sane.

What they should have done is got him immediate psychiatric help and had him sectioned for his own saftey. The Platts seem to be incredibly ignorant people though and scarcely living in the real world.
sam_gee
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by callumfreeman:
“It's okay, Clayton is sent down therefore David's unstable behaviour is completely swept under the carpet. At least until a couple of years when the writers get bored and make him "Demon David" again over something else, where he will no doubt endanger another person's life but get off with it due to the flimsy excuse "what good will it do sending him down, hasn't he suffered enough?"

Seriously David could blow up the whole street and murder everyone (bar the Platts) but they would still cover up for him, as Gail's excuse would be "Everyone in the street is dead, but locking up David can't change that".”

I know you made the excellent suggestion that David murders Gail, but how about this to bring her to her senses -

David tries to strangle Gail (this would go out after 9 pm so could be quite graphic). She survives, terrified, and wants him arrested for attempted murder. Sarah, Nick and Bethany don't let her report him to the police though as it wouldn't do anyone any good and Max and Lily have suffered enough.
Janet43
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by sam_gee:
“Yes, and the Platts haven't even mentioned getting him psychiatric help. They seem to think all his issues can be solved by them all rallying round and sheltering him from the consequences of what he's done. Maybe they'll lock him in the cellar to keep him from harm's way - it worked pretty well last time.”

Gail did arrange for him to see a counsellor, but he wasn't interested, although Gail thought he'd had a useful session.

They couldn't just call out an ambulance and get him sectioned. It doesn't work that way.

If they'd call the police, David would have been all sweetness and light and there would seem to b no reason for the police being called. The family didn't know he had a car full of petrol cans.
BethanyB
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Makson:
“I'm finding it disgusting that Gail, Sarah and Nick are going to crazy lengths to protect David and keep playing the "Max and Lily have already lost their mother, they can't lose their father too" card when trying to guilt trip the likes of Robert into keeping quiet.
David is clearly a deeply troubled individual who has needed psychiatric help for quite some time now.
You'd think that almost killing his own daughter would be the last straw for the Platts to demand him to seek help or face his punishment, but no, they are trying to sweep everything under the carpet. I just don't believe that Gail would endanger Max and Lily's lives by having a disturbed David around them.
It's utter garbage”

Some families in reality would do this - I think David has needed help for a long long time, maybe since he pushed Gail down the stairs if not before - but families tend to rally - they shouldn't - not when someone has been hurt or worse, but it does happen. I just find it hard to swallow that someone keeps getting away with things that they really should not do.
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