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What is Driving people to not vote for Miss Daisy?
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Hamlet77
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Le Danseur:
“I disliked the initial route they seemed to be taking Daisy down - when she channeled Christopher "Doing it for me nan!" Maloney by having her dedicate a whole dance and training VT to her deceased Grandfather. I found that left a bitter taste in my mouth as I found it a bit... tacky? They quickly dropped that narrative and since then she's offered little more to the table other than being nice. Nice is good, but nice is also forgettable and isn't going to win many votes.

How many people must have outpolled her in order for her to fall in the bottom two? Ed, Greg, Rinder and Anastacia? All of whom have a much bigger personality and are Moreno memorable than she.”

You are so right, that showed absolutely no class whatsoever. However sad and relevant, to base the whole intro VT on that was more than tacky in my opinion.

And it does smack of desperation using the memory of a loved one so early in the show. Because I'm not so naive as to think other celebs won't resort to the same tactics, they do each year.
edy10
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Le Danseur:
“The cast for the past few series has followed the formula of three/four nice, young, pretty woman and that's why Daisy and Laura are suffering. The vote will be split as they're so similar.”

I tend to agree .

Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“As well as what everyone else has said she's got no "story". Her scores so far have gone 32-30-31-31-32. There's no shape or texture to her time on the show - no good weeks, no bad weeks, no comebacks, no breakthroughs, no way really of distinguishing one week from another, other than the fact she's doing a different dance, so it all kind of blurs into one melange of quite good dancing. Even Louise (whose scores are also more or less exactly the same every single week) has got thrown the bone of a narrative around needing a breakthrough and to "let go" to work around long term. Daisy's got nothing. She's just there and people don't vote for people who are "just there".”

Great post .
DingDong08
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“You are so right, that showed absolutely no class whatsoever. However sad and relevant, to base the whole intro VT on that was more than tacky in my opinion.

And it does smack of desperation using the memory of a loved one so early in the show. Because I'm not so naive as to think other celebs won't resort to the same tactics, they do each year.”

Yes, she was obviously going solely for sympathy votes, she definitely didn't just want to dedicate her first dance on a show her grandfather loved and would've presumably been thrilled to see his granddaughter on in his memory or anything. Evil wench, I tell you!
duckylucky
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“You are so right, that showed absolutely no class whatsoever. However sad and relevant, to base the whole intro VT on that was more than tacky in my opinion.

And it does smack of desperation using the memory of a loved one so early in the show. Because I'm not so naive as to think other celebs won't resort to the same tactics, they do each year.”

No class ? Daisy gently mentioned her grandad who had just passed away and dedicated a dance to him ? What on earth did you find not classy about that .?
-Sid-
26-10-2016
I mean I usually roll my eyes when they play the dead rellie card but Daisy's granddad literally passed away the first day of training so naturally she was going to be affected by it and bring it up.
Moany Liza
26-10-2016
I finally got around to catching up with the rest of Saturday's show (and the results show too) this afternoon on iPlayer whilst doing my ironing.

The thing that struck me about Daisy's performance was that the dance itself was quite good and I enjoyed it, however it highlighted one of the great deficiencies in Daisy's abilities.

Her face was devoid of expression and it just had the same broad grin throughout. I compared her to Aljaz, whose face was actually moving and expressing a range of emotions during the dance, whereas Daisy's was not.

Then later on, up in the Clauditorium, I spotted her up at the back still with the same rictus grin plastered across her face that she had on during her dance.

I think her generally competent dancing is likely to be compromised by her inability to actually convey any emotion or character in the dance itself, so in my view she's going to fail to produce any sort of edge or advantage over those who can actually perform a dance, rather than simply executing a series of steps.
Hamlet77
26-10-2016
^^
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There was a lack of class because the whole VT was dedicated to her grandfather, and I'm sorry dedicating a dance to a recently deceased relative is not showing any class. A quiet solo contemplation, maybe a small prayer in private, she could have dedicated it to him without broadcasting it to the whole nation.

Sorry in the cut throat nature of how Stricty has become with celebs these days it did her no good. Do not insult me and say the celebs do not use this as a boost to their profile.
duckylucky
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“^^
^^^

There was a lack of class because the whole VT was dedicated to her grandfather, and I'm sorry dedicating a dance to a recently deceased relative is not showing any class. A quiet solo contemplation, maybe a small prayer in private, she could have dedicated it to him without broadcasting it to the whole nation.

Sorry in the cut throat nature of how Stricty has become with celebs these days it did her no good. Do not insult me and say the celebs do not use this as a boost to their profile.”

Who insulted you ? Dont exaggerate , this is a discussion board and we are discussing our opinion . IMO opinion she was dedicating her dance to a loved granda and I see no need to see anything else to it .
fondantfancy
26-10-2016
I haven't paid much attention to Daisy - and the only VTs I watch are for Anton and his partner - but she was so charming on the Sunday show that I shall be paying more attention in future.
Hamlet77
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“Who insulted you ? Dont exaggerate , this is a discussion board and we are discussing our opinion . IMO opinion she was dedicating her dance to a loved granda and I see no need to see anything else to it .”

I was pointing out that any attempt to say celebs do not use family or personal issues to attract votes WOULD be an insult.
Jim Kowalski
26-10-2016
I was going to say 'apathy' but can apathy drive anything?

"Smiley","pleasant" could describe Daisy but at this stage of the competition I feel
the most relevant descriptor is "expendable".
Amethyzt
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“I finally got around to catching up with the rest of Saturday's show (and the results show too) this afternoon on iPlayer whilst doing my ironing.

The thing that struck me about Daisy's performance was that the dance itself was quite good and I enjoyed it, however it highlighted one of the great deficiencies in Daisy's abilities.

Her face was devoid of expression and it just had the same broad grin throughout. I compared her to Aljaz, whose face was actually moving and expressing a range of emotions during the dance, whereas Daisy's was not.

Then later on, up in the Clauditorium, I spotted her up at the back still with the same rictus grin plastered across her face that she had on during her dance.

I think her generally competent dancing is likely to be compromised by her inability to actually convey any emotion or character in the dance itself, so in my view she's going to fail to produce any sort of edge or advantage over those who can actually perform a dance, rather than simply executing a series of steps.”


BIBs very well put Liza. That is exactly it. I have been trying to think what it is that makes Daisy rather forgettable to me and it is this. There is no involvement in the dance, just doing the steps with the same broad smile, regardless of what the dance calls for.
She does seem to be a lovely, smiley person but there is no light and shade.
Paace
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Amethyzt:
“BIBs very well put Liza. That is exactly it. I have been trying to think what it is that makes Daisy rather forgettable to me and it is this. There is no involvement in the dance, just doing the steps with the same broad smile, regardless of what the dance calls for.
She does seem to be a lovely, smiley person but there is no light and shade.”

I think some are very harsh on novices having to learn a brand new dance in just 4 days , especially when comparing them to the pros . I thought she did an excellent job and for me was one of the more memorable dances this series .
Monkseal
26-10-2016
Daisy didn't grin all the way through her waltz, or her cha cha, or her rumba, and based on her rehearsal footage she''s not going to grin all the way through her paso either. She's no actress, but that crit doesn't stick.
Moany Liza
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Daisy didn't grin all the way through her waltz, or her cha cha, or her rumba, and based on her rehearsal footage she''s not going to grin all the way through her paso either. She's no actress, but that crit doesn't stick.”

I don't think there was any suggestion that she did grin all the way through each of her dances. I only commented upon the Charleston which I happened to watch today. The grin was fixed and constant and she appeared incapable of expressing anything else.
The Charleston is one dance which demands characterisation and facial expression because of the fundamental kookiness of the routine.

My comment about needing to bring something extra to her dancing stands, for the simple reason that it's just not enough to smile sweetly and dance competently when all your competitors are also dancing competently but are actually putting on a believable performance.

From now on, it's not going to be enough for her to dance "well", she's going to have to dig deep and find something to make her dances more memorable.
Monkseal
26-10-2016
I was addressing this post

Originally Posted by Amethyzt:
“BIBs I have been trying to think what it is that makes Daisy rather forgettable to me and it is this. There is no involvement in the dance, just doing the steps with the same broad smile, regardless of what the dance calls for.”

which reads as a more general point across all the dances
Moany Liza
26-10-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I was addressing this post



which reads as a more general point across all the dances”

Ah, I wasn't sure, as Amethyzt had responded to my own comment with these thoughts - but as you hadn't quoted either post, it wasn't clear if you were directing your remarks at her post or mine.
Monkseal
27-10-2016
Was just following the flow of conversation is all
Moany Liza
27-10-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Was just following the flow of conversation is all ”

Splendid!
aldo-1
27-10-2016
I like Daisy, she may not be well known but I'd rather have her on the show than Joey Essex, Jemma Collins, Vicky Pattison or any other annoying prat from reality shows.
Moany Liza
27-10-2016
Originally Posted by aldo-1:
“I like Daisy, she may not be well known but I'd rather have her on the show than Joey Essex, Jemma Collins, Vicky Pattison or any other annoying prat from reality shows.”

Is it wrong that I have never heard of any of them either?

notdebbiedingle
27-10-2016
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“Is it wrong that I have never heard of any of them either?

”

No I would say it's absolutely right!! I congratulate you!!!!
marinamau
27-10-2016
She is one of those that you want to be friends with, but it's not really charismatic on or off the dance floor. Competent but pretty much unremarkable. Also, as much as I adore Alijaz, he is so nice but a bit "boring" that it means that is a very vanilla partnership, nice but without too much personality.
Ellie1967
27-10-2016
Originally Posted by marinamau:
“She is one of those that you want to be friends with, but it's not really charismatic on or off the dance floor. Competent but pretty much unremarkable. Also, as much as I adore Alijaz, he is so nice but a bit "boring" that it means that is a very vanilla partnership, nice but without too much personality.”

That's how I feel. I really like Aljaz and Daisy seems very sweet but the only one of his partnerships I've really enjoyed was with Alison because there was such a personality contrast and she brought out a different side of him.
Doghouse Riley
27-10-2016
I'll start with her plus points

Like thousands of young women of her age, she's attractive and pleasant.........

Now I've run out of positive things to say.

Her dancing isn't particularly good and few people will have heard of her.

That's why she's not going to get a lot of votes at this stage.
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