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Why Is Karren Vilified For Only Doing Her Job - And Claude Is Not ? |
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Her performance is so disgraceful, Karren should be relieved of her duties immediately.
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Lol so basically it's fine for claude to be harsh and nor Karren
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The idea that Karen's pathetic "Not skills Lord Sugar is looking for" jibe was meant to be helpful is one of the most ludicrous that I have ever heard about anything in the history of mankind.
She very very very very very very very clearly meant to demean and crush the spirit of the candidate involved and her sour face displayed the degree of animosity and conveyed her true intentions to belittle the individual. That she takes so much pleasure out of making derogatory comment about other human beings is very very very very very much to her total discredit. |
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The idea that Karen's pathetic "Not skills Lord Sugar is looking for" jibe was meant to be helpful is one of the most ludicrous that I have ever heard about anything in the history of mankind.
She very very very very very very very clearly meant to demean and crush the spirit of the candidate involved and her sour face displayed the degree of animosity and conveyed her true intentions to belittle the individual. That she takes so much pleasure out of making derogatory comment about other human beings is very very very very very much to her total discredit. |
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Jeez dude, let it go. Clearly you have "issues" with Karen that go beyond whatever it is we're discussing here. Your inference that she takes personal pleasure from degrading people means you're either pyschic and can read minds, or (and more likely) that it's some strange irrational hatred.
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And Alan Sugar come to think of it.
Must be a case of tunnel vision. This thread does not belong here so no further unpleasant wisdom from you is required. |
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There is already a thread dedicated to Karren which you have contributed to.
This thread does not belong here so no further unpleasant wisdom from you is required. So If ever I am bored I will try to work that out - because I don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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I admit the wording was a bit hyperbolic but the principle stands. She was a major part of West Ham's push for their stadium. A stadium which has worked out an incredible deal for them, a stadium the tax payer ultimately paid for.
That's down down to the idiot public servant that signed it off. |
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Anyone not managing to spell Karren's name correctly should have their vote discounted.
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Anyone not managing to spell Karren's name correctly should have their vote discounted.
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She can't spell it correctly herself!
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You should be 'E-Velle'!
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You should be 'E-Velle'!
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Whilst I appreciate the idea that females are more likely to be open to criticism for acting basically like men I do think there is something more about Karen to not like. If it was just down to a general dislike for women being harsh and a tolerance, enjoyment even of men being harsh then why wasn't Margaret disliked as much as Karen
![]() Somehow or other it is possible to warm to Claude, Nick, Margaret and LS even despite their caustic and often personal remarks to the candidates but not so with Karen. I don't think it's because she is a female that she is receiving so much more negativity than LS and Claude but maybe it is due to her delivery that just doesn't endear her or make you realise that actually she is joking. |
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Whilst I appreciate the idea that females are more likely to be open to criticism for acting basically like men I do think there is something more about Karen to not like. If it was just down to a general dislike for women being harsh and a tolerance, enjoyment even of men being harsh then why wasn't Margaret disliked as much as Karen
![]() Somehow or other it is possible to warm to Claude, Nick, Margaret and LS even despite their caustic and often personal remarks to the candidates but not so with Karen. I don't think it's because she is a female that she is receiving so much more negativity than LS and Claude but maybe it is due to her delivery that just doesn't endear her or make you realise that actually she is joking. |
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She isn't joking. She gets pleasure out of demeaning other human beings. It's appalling.
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How do you know that?
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How do you know that?
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That's not West Ham's fault though.
That's down down to the idiot public servant that signed it off. |
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Not really - there is a clear inference in newspaper commentary of a stitch-up between (Tory peer) Karren and (then Tory Mayor) Boris. Whether that is true or not will become apparent over time.
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We seem to be stuck running in circles in here it'd seem.
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Its the tone and how she says things that pretty much belittles everyone...sell a pound coin for a million quid and you might just get a half decent quip but otherwise she always sounds negative...maybe its her natural style of speech but it feels like you have to be amazing to even get to average with her.
I haven't actually seen her getting pleasure out of anything. |
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Whilst I appreciate the idea that females are more likely to be open to criticism for acting basically like men I do think there is something more about Karen to not like. If it was just down to a general dislike for women being harsh and a tolerance, enjoyment even of men being harsh then why wasn't Margaret disliked as much as Karen
![]() Somehow or other it is possible to warm to Claude, Nick, Margaret and LS even despite their caustic and often personal remarks to the candidates but not so with Karen. I don't think it's because she is a female that she is receiving so much more negativity than LS and Claude but maybe it is due to her delivery that just doesn't endear her or make you realise that actually she is joking. There may be much in your comments Trevor and especially what I have highlighted. Below is - word for word - what I said to another poster :- " I think that Karren is fair - she once gave one person on the show a job because she could see the potential - but it's possible that she does not suffer fools lightly - and many of them are fools. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. She is a excellent business woman so when she sees these people who claim to have a business brain and clearly they do have not then it may offend her." So some on the forum seem to be offended also - but I like her. |
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So to summarise the overwhelming consensus in response to the question posed in this thread:
* Karren is a very bitter, nasty piece of work and this is really noticeable when compared with other current and former assistants * it cannot therefore reasonably be stated that she is in any way being vilified, but rather properly criticised for her unacceptable behaviour The premise of the thread is thereby disproven. |
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Its the tone and how she says things that pretty much belittles everyone...sell a pound coin for a million quid and you might just get a half decent quip but otherwise she always sounds negative...maybe its her natural style of speech but it feels like you have to be amazing to even get to average with her.
She just can't carry off the insults in the same manner or with the same reaction as others in The Apprentice but that doesn't mean she is enjoying belittling participants more or less than the others. Quote:
[/b] There may be much in your comments Trevor and especially what I have highlighted. Below is - word for word - what I said to another poster :-
" I think that Karren is fair - she once gave one person on the show a job because she could see the potential - but it's possible that she does not suffer fools lightly - and many of them are fools. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. She is a excellent business woman so when she sees these people who claim to have a business brain and clearly they do have not then it may offend her." So some on the forum seem to be offended also - but I like her. |
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