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Old 12-11-2016, 00:35
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Is this still a question now one of the most promising cast additions in years has gone
I was shocked how short a time she had been there. She really felt like part of the furniture (in a good way); right in the middle of things, interactions with everyone and now she's gone. I hope it was her decision.

I am really hope we're not going to have just Mitchell/Beale/Branning drama as I have never really liked them. The Carters will be down to two shortly and I'm dreading Max's return. Unless some new, interesting, characters come along, I'm going to give up once Babe is gone.
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Old 12-11-2016, 00:49
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For the first few weeks of SOCs reign in Walford, I was like ok, it's going through a transitional period, and things will become clearer soon...then I thought, oh, it's summer, EE never really have big summer stories anyway, everything usually happens in autumn and winter, but still...nothing is happening.

Right now the show is moving at a snails pace, all of the current stories now are just continuations of the minor stories that DTC created earlier in the year, the show hasn't taken any aye forward since Peggy's death and Bobbys comeuppance, all that happened in May and absolutely nothing has happened since then.
On a character level, axing Ronnie and Roxy isn't totally a bad idea, they need to be rested, they've been centre of the soap for years now, but killing them off is just wrong, the door should definitely have been left open for at least one of them, preferably both of them though. Not to mention another two deaths in the Mitchell family just months after Peggy (and Paul if he counts), is a bit much.
I would like a back to basics approach to EE but even this is bad. Acing so many characters with potential, while bringing nobody new in to replace them and bringing back some pointless character connected to the Fowlers, who appeared in 3-4 episodes a decade ago. It all feels a little Blackburn to me, like that's what I would imagine EE would be like under Stuart Blackburn. What's the odds that we will see another great character return from the past? I'm hoping it's that guy that Den Watts served a pint to in the Vic about 25 years ago, definitely need to see what he's doing again
And what the hell is up with Stacey?????
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:21
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I was shocked how short a time she had been there. She really felt like part of the furniture (in a good way); right in the middle of things, interactions with everyone and now she's gone. I hope it was her decision.

I am really hope we're not going to have just Mitchell/Beale/Branning drama as I have never really liked them. The Carters will be down to two shortly and I'm dreading Max's return. Unless some new, interesting, characters come along, I'm going to give up once Babe is gone.
Dreadful decision!
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:40
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The opinion now seems to be very different compared to what it was a month ago or so. He hasn't done anything different during this time. What's changed?
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:47
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The opinion now seems to be very different compared to what it was a month ago or so. He hasn't done anything different during this time. What's changed?
EastEnders producers are generally not well received on these boards no matter who they may be.
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:40
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For the first few weeks of SOCs reign in Walford, I was like ok, it's going through a transitional period, and things will become clearer soon...then I thought, oh, it's summer, EE never really have big summer stories anyway, everything usually happens in autumn and winter, but still...nothing is happening.

Right now the show is moving at a snails pace, all of the current stories now are just continuations of the minor stories that DTC created earlier in the year, the show hasn't taken any aye forward since Peggy's death and Bobbys comeuppance, all that happened in May and absolutely nothing has happened since then.
On a character level, axing Ronnie and Roxy isn't totally a bad idea, they need to be rested, they've been centre of the soap for years now, but killing them off is just wrong, the door should definitely have been left open for at least one of them, preferably both of them though. Not to mention another two deaths in the Mitchell family just months after Peggy (and Paul if he counts), is a bit much.
I would like a back to basics approach to EE but even this is bad. Acing so many characters with potential, while bringing nobody new in to replace them and bringing back some pointless character connected to the Fowlers, who appeared in 3-4 episodes a decade ago. It all feels a little Blackburn to me, like that's what I would imagine EE would be like under Stuart Blackburn. What's the odds that we will see another great character return from the past? I'm hoping it's that guy that Den Watts served a pint to in the Vic about 25 years ago, definitely need to see what he's doing again
And what the hell is up with Stacey?????
Derek was in more than 3-4 episodes. It was more 3-4 years!!
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:52
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The opinion now seems to be very different compared to what it was a month ago or so. He hasn't done anything different during this time. What's changed?
Normal filler day to day episodes are fine while big storylines are playing along side them but nothing is happening at all. The show is at a complete standstill. I don't have any issue with character led episodes if the plots are decent but the only thing that is any good right now is Lee's storyline.

Its got to point this week that while EE was on air my mind was elsewhere on other things. It couldn't hold my interest.

The episode threads on here barely get past page 5 of actual EE discussion and they only reach 10 pages if its members having discussions about other things so this must be a sign no one has anything to talk about in regards to current stories. If no one is interested in discussing current stories then the show is in trouble.
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:49
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It's just very, very missable. I've been travelling for work a lot these past few weeks, and only see an episode here or there, maybe 1 in 3 or 4 episodes. It doesn't matter as nothing really changes.
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:51
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Do we know whether Belinda was axed ?
I'm shocked if so. This producer is surely off to the worst start of anyone EVER.
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:56
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It's just very, very missable. I've been travelling for work a lot these past few weeks, and only see an episode here or there, maybe 1 in 3 or 4 episodes. It doesn't matter as nothing really changes.
But that's very much the same with all soaps you could miss and entire weeks worth yet still be able to get back into watching straight away without the need to know exactly what has happened, all soap storylines a very predictable any how once a storyline has started you can very much predict the end straight away.
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:58
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Do we know whether Belinda was axed ?
I'm shocked if so. This producer is surely off to the worst start of anyone EVER.
That is very much a soap cliché it's said about every soap producer at one time or other to the point it's become meaningless.
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Old 12-11-2016, 10:18
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The opinion now seems to be very different compared to what it was a month ago or so. He hasn't done anything different during this time. What's changed?
people tend to be patient at first but it soon wares off

its November 12th, Christmas is 6 weeks yet and nothing new seems to be starting and nobody new appears to be coming along, there's nothing really out there to discuss out there other than the exits of Lee, Ronnie and roxy.

pretty much all stories seem to be ones that have been rolling since the last producer, for example phils liver, Lees depression, Denise pregnant.

is there actually any new stories of his own ideas that have been introduced yet other than all this crap regarding the bins
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Old 12-11-2016, 10:19
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Normal filler day to day episodes are fine while big storylines are playing along side them but nothing is happening at all. The show is at a complete standstill. I don't have any issue with character led episodes if the plots are decent but the only thing that is any good right now is Lee's storyline.

Its got to point this week that while EE was on air my mind was elsewhere on other things. It couldn't hold my interest.

The episode threads on here barely get past page 5 of actual EE discussion and they only reach 10 pages if its members having discussions about other things so this must be a sign no one has anything to talk about in regards to current stories. If no one is interested in discussing current stories then the show is in trouble.
Tend to agree, EastEnder is certainly going through a temperamental stage.the show stripped back version why is great for filler every day type of episodes, with no big core storyline happening it's all starting to go into one another, lack of engaging characters is certainly a big factor.

I only caught the end of yesterday episode, I had no desire to watch it or even bother to catch up I normally look forward to the xmas episodes the most but if this is the pace it's going at I fear just gonna be another damp 🐙
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:07
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I'm with the op he genuinely is ruining it, at first i thought it was promising characters that would never normally share a scene interacting a lot more, a more community feel to the show. But we still need drama as well thats part of the reason i watch it, but at the moment i feel like its completely missable because basically theres no real major storylines or anything exciting happening, and if it was his decision to axe belinda then that is an absolutely dreadful decision, the amount of characters leaving is way way too much and characters with potential too, if indeed he does kill ronnie and roxy off then i may stop watching until a new producer comes in. I agree ronnie and roxy need rested but killing them off is just ridiculous, and btw belinda's exit there was an absolute embarassement seriously man wtf! this SOC is really pissing me off.
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:09
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I'm actually starting to wonder if SOC is a plant who has been put there to sabotage EastEnders!

It is so odd lately. In some ways it reminds me of some of the early episodes of EastEnders, which sometimes concentrated on character led stories that weren't as high impact and seemed more everyday. For instance the cliffhanger (doof doof) moments have been seriously weird lately and not at all what you'd consider a traditional end to an EE episode. However, you'd sometimes get these endings in the early years of the series.

But I'm having serious doubts about what SOC is trying to achieve here. The episodes we are seeing lately are not credible episodes for a top rated evening soap. They are more what you'd get in a daytime soap.
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:33
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It is rather dull and I no longer have the inclination to watch very often but to be fair DTC and co had really steered the show into ridiculous self parody with characters shrugging off murder and secret relatives popping up like invading killer ladybirds.

Given the current producer's pedigree I do think things will improve long term. Although the killing off of R&R doesn't look good and it's a shame if Belinda has gone as she had interesting potential.

(I reserve the right to take the above back if Gus and Sonia return to take over the Vic).
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:35
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I'm actually starting to wonder if SOC is a plant who has been put there to sabotage EastEnders!

It is so odd lately. In some ways it reminds me of some of the early episodes of EastEnders, which sometimes concentrated on character led stories that weren't as high impact and seemed more everyday. For instance the cliffhanger (doof doof) moments have been seriously weird lately and not at all what you'd consider a traditional end to an EE episode. However, you'd sometimes get these endings in the early years of the series.

But I'm having serious doubts about what SOC is trying to achieve here. The episodes we are seeing lately are not credible episodes for a top rated evening soap. They are more what you'd get in a daytime soap.
I was thinking the exact same thing there, is he an itv plant sent in too ruin eastenders lol its that bad im wondering if he's trolling us all, axing all these characters and bringing back libby and dereck christmas will probably be just another episode of nothing happening, i mean what happened the halloween episode? a few kegs got robbed lol this SOC is a disaster.
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:40
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Personally I think his axings have been the right decision, as for Belinda I'm not fussed about her exit. However I am still finding it dull, hopefully he does have something planned because these filler type sls are just not good enough. I guess it also depends on what you like, some people like these 'back to basic' type sls whereas I prefer some 'drama' because it keeps me interested.
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:47
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I'm actually starting to wonder if SOC is a plant who has been put there to sabotage EastEnders!

It is so odd lately. In some ways it reminds me of some of the early episodes of EastEnders, which sometimes concentrated on character led stories that weren't as high impact and seemed more everyday. For instance the cliffhanger (doof doof) moments have been seriously weird lately and not at all what you'd consider a traditional end to an EE episode. However, you'd sometimes get these endings in the early years of the series.

But I'm having serious doubts about what SOC is trying to achieve here. The episodes we are seeing lately are not credible episodes for a top rated evening soap. They are more what you'd get in a daytime soap.
Nail on the head! its all just far too low key ive never felt this way about eastenders, im not looking forward to anything because its all too slow, and the axing of characters is pissing me off.
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:49
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I was thinking the exact same thing there, is he an itv plant sent in too ruin eastenders lol its that bad im wondering if he's trolling us all, axing all these characters and bringing back libby and dereck christmas will probably be just another episode of nothing happening, i mean what happened the halloween episode? a few kegs got robbed lol this SOC is a disaster.
Bib

Itvs soaps do perfectly fine without needing any of that conspiracy stuff..
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:53
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SOC inherited such a mess from dtc, maybe this is his way of trying to fix things rather than do something 'big' from the get go, he's just doing some filler until his big sls (which I think might involve RnR). Although I find it dull, maybe things will pick up soon.
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Old 12-11-2016, 12:53
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Tend to agree, EastEnder is certainly going through a temperamental stage.the show stripped back version why is great for filler every day type of episodes, with no big core storyline happening it's all starting to go into one another, lack of engaging characters is certainly a big factor.

I only caught the end of yesterday episode, I had no desire to watch it or even bother to catch up I normally look forward to the xmas episodes the most but if this is the pace it's going at I fear just gonna be another damp 🐙
lol damp squid
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Old 12-11-2016, 13:01
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Lol some of you EE fans make me laugh, once the show gets to a better point you'll find as much positive feeds on it.
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Old 12-11-2016, 13:05
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SOC inherited such a mess from dtc, maybe this is his way of trying to fix things rather than do something 'big' from the get go, he's just doing some filler until his big sls (which I think might involve RnR). Although I find it dull, maybe things will pick up soon.
See this is an occasion where I really don't think a mess had been left.
Yes DTC came up with some crap in his time. But soaps have been left in a far far worse state for new producers. I would say SOC got it easy in comparison .
Like I said earlier in the thread, he will not last the distance just wait and see
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Old 12-11-2016, 13:12
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I think he'll get punted, he's obviously trying to get the show back to its roots but sorry SOC its not 1985 mate people watch eastenders for a bit of drama and exciting storylines, not kim learning to drive or a few kegs getting nicked for a halloween episode. If he kills off ronnie and roxy he'll quickly find out he's messed up big time, resting the characters i can understand but killing them off? nah mate im not having that.
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