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Sean O'Connor is ruining EastEnders
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Reem2011
13-11-2016
If the Mitchell sisters get killed, it's going to backfire on the producer
Damien_Johnson
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Reem2011:
“If the Mitchell sisters get killed, it's going to backfire on the producer”

How so?
Louise_Hart
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Reem2011:
“If the Mitchell sisters get killed, it's going to backfire on the producer”

WOW, can you tell me what next weeks lottery numbers are too.
Ben96
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Louise_Hart:
“WOW, can you tell me what next weeks lottery numbers are too.”



I'll like to know too please!
gavin shipman
14-11-2016
Personally I have been enjoying EastEnders more recently than I have done for at least a year.

The writing is spot on and all the cast are being used. It might have been a quiet period for the past few weeks but it's made time to focus on characters more. Character led drama is so important, we had a conversation between Kathy and Libby about a late pregnancy remembering that Kathy was Denise's age when she had Ben, then we had Ronnie and Donna having a quick chat about Roxy's mood, two characters that haven't interacted for maybe a year properly or ever, Belinda and Masood's scenes have been great, Kim as a character has improved to no ends and isn't a comedy character anymore but can deliver fine performances. Storylines are brewing nicely and not thrown in your face for example Phil's transplant and also Denise's baby storyline is flowing nicely.

I did enjoy a lot of DTC's work and I thought the Lucy storyline was fantastic however it damaged many characters in the process especially Ian,Jane,Sharon,Phil,Peter, Lauren and Abi.

I think now that time has passed its' easier to relate to them better but that's been made easier by Sean making the characters real again and focusing on every day life.
Jane's recorvery has been amazing and has flowed very well. Lauren skyping Peter is another one, making sure that its not forgotten that Louis has a dad in New Zealand.

Jay is a character that has been used so much better recently. Also to people saying that the Mitchell Sisters are being killed off lets just wait and see because I don't think they will be. They are too big enough characters to be killed. I can see them deciding to leave in a Thelma-Louise style ending.

It's been great recently and I think we still start to see more of Sean's vision for the show.
Troian
14-11-2016
Les and Pam's exit was good. The Lee and Whitney wedding episode was good. Everything else has been drab.
Aura101
14-11-2016
I did watch abit of tonights, but couldnt bear more than 15 mins so switched over to Gino's Italian Escape
jimbo23
14-11-2016
Tonight was awful

Lee and the call centre is woeful

Masood and Jane was ok, but the trouble is since Lucy I'd forgotten they were even friends there's a spark there it's just a shame they never really got anywhere

Libby and the over bearing act is non eventful and it's again a shame as Libby has potential just not in her current nagging state,

Carmels starting to grate abit aswell I hope once they pack massood off she can be fun again

I have been thinking a lot about this and I think what I don't like about the current vibe is that i watch Corrie for the slapstick and that warm frothy nostalgic feeling, dip in and out it's ok has one ace week a year, but eastenders is event viewing in my house I look forward to it drama now if it wasn't for Sharon and her dynasty hair and shoulder pads there wouldn't be any point watching
SuperSoaper
15-11-2016
Finding it a real chore to watch, which is a shame, as this is a show that thrives on dramatic twists and turns. I would rather it be unrealistic and entertaining, to be honest.
Aura101
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by jimbo23:
“Tonight was awful

Lee and the call centre is woeful

Masood and Jane was ok, but the trouble is since Lucy I'd forgotten they were even friends there's a spark there it's just a shame they never really got anywhere

Libby and the over bearing act is non eventful and it's again a shame as Libby has potential just not in her current nagging state,

Carmels starting to grate abit aswell I hope once they pack massood off she can be fun again

I have been thinking a lot about this and I think what I don't like about the current vibe is that i watch Corrie for the slapstick and that warm frothy nostalgic feeling, dip in and out it's ok has one ace week a year, but eastenders is event viewing in my house I look forward to it drama now if it wasn't for Sharon and her dynasty hair and shoulder pads there wouldn't be any point watching”

Corrie can carry it off with their characters and usually (maybe not so much these days) genuine funny humour. EastEnders to put it bluntly have never been good at that in particular.
Saying that, EastEnders usually is my number one soap (i watch them all), apart from a time i found Hollyoaks unmissable many years ago, EastEnders would usually be the one i record when out. Now i just simply wouldnt bother, its actually become my least favourite soap, i would take Emmerdale over EastEnders and i never thought i would see the day where that happened!
jimbo23
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“Corrie can carry it off with their characters and usually (maybe not so much these days) genuine funny humour. EastEnders to put it bluntly have never been good at that in particular.
Saying that, EastEnders usually is my number one soap (i watch them all), apart from a time i found Hollyoaks unmissable many years ago, EastEnders would usually be the one i record when out. Now i just simply wouldnt bother, its actually become my least favourite soap, i would take Emmerdale over EastEnders and i never thought i would see the day where that happened!”

Yeah thats basically what I was trying to say but better put, I watch all but holloyokes and that's just because of the time it's on and if I'd rape that as well I'd never go out,

But I don't no what to think sbout eastenders I have been shouted down on here for disliking the new approach, really if this is what the majority of people like, I'm happy to back away and watch another channel or Netflix ( really into Netflix right now)
But I'd miss eastenders I really would so for now and prob always I'll keep tryibg
Bcph
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by LaneKent:
“The time is right for both sisters to go but I am really not sure about killing either off to make a quick ratings grabber moment; particularly if he struggles to replace them with three dimensional characters. EE has thrived on comebacks and faltered at creating strong new ones - with the odd exception. They have lived to regret killing off iconic characters in the past.

Ronnie should never of been a full time character after the baby swap - coming back only in guest slots. When Ronnie left, Glenda should of been kept on for Roxy as it would of been a different dynamic and they were becoming quite a double act. Roxy works best behind a bar and part of a double act. The Ronnie one is exausted now. But she has proved with the likes of Christian and Alfie, she can work in non romantic double acts. Big mistake was making her romantically involved with Alfie. Roxy and her failed love exploits have been done to death. So yes Roxy needs resting for sure. But killing both sisters off, I am really not sure about?”

forgotten ALL about Roxy & Alfie - the joke of the year - who was producer when that "romance" was going on - no chemistry no nothing - well, who was responsible - if it was old stuff from one producer and a new one inherited the love story of the century
LaneKent
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bcph:
“forgotten ALL about Roxy & Alfie - the joke of the year - who was producer when that "romance" was going on - no chemistry no nothing - well, who was responsible - if it was old stuff from one producer and a new one inherited the love story of the century”

Was it Newman and DTC inherited the last couple of months. I know I missed most of it as I stopped watching not long after they killed off Pat - and I think they were still just friends at that time. When I did start dipping back in again Roxy and Alfie had gone from friends to engaged. It was a pointless story as you only needed to watch one episode to know Alfie was going to get back with Kat. The scriptwriters clearly didn't care about Roxy at all. That's probably why Roxy and Alfie didn't work as a couple as we were not supposed to invest in them as a couple.
Kym Marsh Fan
15-11-2016
it isn't called deadenders now for nothing
jimbo23
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Kym Marsh Fan:
“it isn't called deadenders now for nothing”

its certainly looking less and less likley that this is just teething problems...
Noxy
15-11-2016
There seems to be some kind of scorched earth agenda. Loads of characters gone, loads still going, but nobody replacing them and essentially no storylines. It's gone from godawful nonsense to just plain nonsense.
sorcha_healy27
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Kym Marsh Fan:
“it isn't called deadenders now for nothing”

Who calls it that?
jimbo23
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Who calls it that?”

We are lol
sorcha_healy27
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by jimbo23:
“We are lol”

Fair enough but the comment implied it was a general fact about the show rather than a few fms on here
pinkprint
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by jimbo23:
“Yeah thats basically what I was trying to say but better put, I watch all but holloyokes and that's just because of the time it's on and if I'd rape that as well I'd never go out,

But I don't no what to think sbout eastenders I have been shouted down on here for disliking the new approach, really if this is what the majority of people like, I'm happy to back away and watch another channel or Netflix ( really into Netflix right now)
But I'd miss eastenders I really would so for now and prob always I'll keep tryibg”

It really is not what the majority like. .I have noticed that some people on this forum will defend the show to the death, apparently anyone complaining on social media should be discounted as illiterate 12 year olds, but I have never seen such negativity towards the show , of course people go onto social media to complain but not to this extent, and its old, young , superfans all sorts.
I know ratings are normal, but give it another 5 months of the current way the show is then they will dip considerably.
I have also noticed the TV critics giving the show a right bashing, especially Ally Ross inThe Sun a couple of weeks ago mentioning Ian's cliffhanger of 'I'll put the kettle on'
Though I say all this and I'm still watching, however if Ronnie is killed off in this ridiculous pool stunt then its goodbye from me.
sexy_princess
15-11-2016
SOC if you're reading this luv, please make sure you put a bullet in each awful Mitchell sister. I never want to have to endure either of these clapped out characters ever again. Ta.

Yours truly, Miss sexy_princess. xoxoxox
Keyser_Soze1
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by sexy_princess:
“SOC if you're reading this luv, please make sure you put a bullet in each awful Mitchell sister. I never want to have to endure either of these clapped out characters ever again. Ta.

Yours truly, Miss sexy_princess. xoxoxox”

And fire a couple of rocket-propelled grenades straight into the Philth - which would be a lovely treat to watch for me.
sexy_princess
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“And fire a couple of rocket-propelled grenades straight into the Philth - which would be a lovely treat to watch for me.”

Me too. We could share a bottle of champagne.

If only SOC would have the balls to have Philth die once and for all and end his pathetic pantomime shenanigans of Mr. Teflon Phil Hardman invincible.
Digital Sid
15-11-2016
I actually think this is the most solid the show's been in a while.
Damien_Johnson
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by pinkprint:
“It really is not what the majority like. .I have noticed that some people on this forum will defend the show to the death, apparently anyone complaining on social media should be discounted as illiterate 12 year olds, but I have never seen such negativity towards the show , of course people go onto social media to complain but not to this extent, and its old, young , superfans all sorts.
I know ratings are normal, but give it another 5 months of the current way the show is then they will dip considerably.
I have also noticed the TV critics giving the show a right bashing, especially Ally Ross inThe Sun a couple of weeks ago mentioning Ian's cliffhanger of 'I'll put the kettle on'
Though I say all this and I'm still watching, however if Ronnie is killed off in this ridiculous pool stunt then its goodbye from me.”

You've never seen the show so talked about so negative? Take it you wasn't around in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2012 and 2013 then... Because this is nothing compared to those days.

The critics will always bash EE. Has Ally Ross ever praised EE? Because I'd like to see the link if he did...

Ultimately the ratings are good at the moment. The BBC will be pleased and so will SOC. Nitin Ganatra has said the cast are postively taking notice of the dialogue changes and change of direction. So who cares what a handful of people are saying on social media?

And for every negative 'tweet' there's probably a positive. But that doesn't make a story in the press, does it?

The ones criticising EE on here are still watching the show. Until you actually stop, no-one will actually care.

There's plenty really enjoying the show post-DTC. In fact the Metro have been praising the show as well as Digital Spy themselves.

If you think EE is bad, you obviously weren't watching when Claudette was being 'buried alive', the ridiculous fairground 'disaster' or Pauline was being 'murdered' by bloody Joe Macer.

SOC is nowhere near as bad as those periods. In fact he created the Slaters and storylined one of the shows most acclaimed stories (Little Mo and Trevor). But you're not willing to even give him a chance, are you?
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