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One of the fundamental problem is serious and potentially meaty storylines are parked and seemingly discarded. Examples are as follows:
- The busty mum of Vincent trying to kill Patrick - Roxy's stomach problem when she swallowed a stash of drugs - Stephen stealing and fraudulently opening up a company - What happened to Peter - Thick Mick continuing to employ a woman who extorted money from a couple - Dot's conscience after topping off her son - Sharon's dependency on painkillers They're not addressing any of these issues choosing instead to deal with the seismic issues of the panto, bingate and Kathy at the caff. Even the new regional manager story at the Mini Mary's gone for a Burton. I think people just want proportionality |
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One of the fundamental problem is serious and potentially meaty storylines are parked and seemingly discarded. Examples are as follows:
- The busty mum of Vincent trying to kill Patrick - Roxy's stomach problem when she swallowed a stash of drugs - Stephen stealing and fraudulently opening up a company - What happened to Peter - Thick Mick continuing to employ a woman who extorted money from a couple - Dot's conscience after topping off her son - Sharon's dependency on painkillers They're not addressing any of these issues choosing instead to deal with the seismic issues of the panto, bingate and Kathy at the caff. Even the new regional manager story at the Mini Mary's gone for a Burton. I think people just want proportionality |
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Point is there needs to be some transition planning and continuity status that stories can have a flow. I understand that a new EP will bring his/her own ideas into a show and have a strategic direction that they want it to take but that's a long term vision. Doesn't mean that they completely shelve pre existing storylines otherwise why not kick everyone out, get a whole new crew and actors, rebrand and start the show off anew?
Going off at a tangent here.
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One of the fundamental problem is serious and potentially meaty storylines are parked and seemingly discarded. Examples are as follows:
- The busty mum of Vincent trying to kill Patrick - Roxy's stomach problem when she swallowed a stash of drugs - Stephen stealing and fraudulently opening up a company - What happened to Peter - Thick Mick continuing to employ a woman who extorted money from a couple - Dot's conscience after topping off her son - Sharon's dependency on painkillers They're not addressing any of these issues choosing instead to deal with the seismic issues of the panto, bingate and Kathy at the caff. Even the new regional manager story at the Mini Mary's gone for a Burton. I think people just want proportionality Quote:
Peter and Steven has already been addressed. Claudette killing Patrick was a ridiculous story, and Sharon's painkiller stuff was cancelled about 4 years ago. Not sure why SOC is getting heat for stuff before his tenure.
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One of the fundamental problem is serious and potentially meaty storylines are parked and seemingly discarded. Examples are as follows:
- The busty mum of Vincent trying to kill Patrick - Roxy's stomach problem when she swallowed a stash of drugs - Stephen stealing and fraudulently opening up a company - What happened to Peter - Thick Mick continuing to employ a woman who extorted money from a couple - Dot's conscience after topping off her son - Sharon's dependency on painkillers They're not addressing any of these issues choosing instead to deal with the seismic issues of the panto, bingate and Kathy at the caff. Even the new regional manager story at the Mini Mary's gone for a Burton. I think people just want proportionality |
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Some characters need work - Johnny for example has not been developed at all since he returned.
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Some characters need work - Johnny for example has not been developed at all since he returned.
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The actor isn't very good though is he?
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Any new casting news ? Or returns?
The more I see Ronnie the more I am getting pissed off with her exit.
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Any new casting news ? Or returns?
The more I see Ronnie the more I am getting pissed off with her exit. ![]() |
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Please stop commenting on this thread. It needs to die and was dying.
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Please stop commenting on this thread. It needs to die and was dying.
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Any new casting news ? Or returns?
The more I see Ronnie the more I am getting pissed off with her exit. ![]() |
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Any new casting news ? Or returns?
The more I see Ronnie the more I am getting pissed off with her exit. ![]() According to DigiGuide EE is not on on New Year's Eve (if true The Sun got sonething wrong), but there is an hour episode on New Year's Day. Normal time Monday 2nd (although slot afterwards is currently vacant, so possible EE might be longer). Tuesday 3rd normal length and time. 2 episodes Thursday 5th at 7:30pm & 8:30pm. They haven't confirmed the evening schedules for Wednesday & Friday evening. |
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Going by Twitter I think Glenda's back for more than the funeral episode. However I could be wrong.
According to DigiGuide EE is not on on New Year's Eve (if true The Sun got sonething wrong), but there is an hour episode on New Year's Day. Normal time Monday 2nd (although slot afterwards is currently vacant, so possible EE might be longer). Tuesday 3rd normal length and time. 2 episodes Thursday 5th at 7:30pm & 8:30pm. They haven't confirmed the evening schedules for Wednesday & Friday evening. I'm sad about Glenda as I really like her as a character but I'm assuming after her return for the funerals we won't see her again. I really really wish we had all been fooled and the sisters hop on the plane somewhere but that just ain't going to happen, and it's so so bloody obvious now that Phil gets Ronnie's liver. I literally cannot believe what SOC is doing to this show. He will be charged with crimes against soap just as Bryan Birkwood was. |
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Im guessing new years episode will rate quite well as I'm sure the press will remind viewers of Ronnie/Roxy's impending demise. Two of probably the biggest characters over the last decade.
I'm sad about Glenda as I really like her as a character but I'm assuming after her return for the funerals we won't see her again. I really really wish we had all been fooled and the sisters hop on the plane somewhere but that just ain't going to happen, and it's so so bloody obvious now that Phil gets Ronnie's liver. I literally cannot believe what SOC is doing to this show. He will be charged with crimes against soap just as Bryan Birkwood was. |
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You won't be watching then as you dislike it so much and already know how the stories will play out?
![]() ![]() If you say so. As it happens, come the New Year though i very much doubt I will continue to watch. I feel like I am only watching now to see through the end of the Lee storyline, and the sisters. |
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Im guessing new years episode will rate quite well as I'm sure the press will remind viewers of Ronnie/Roxy's impending demise. Two of probably the biggest characters over the last decade.
I'm sad about Glenda as I really like her as a character but I'm assuming after her return for the funerals we won't see her again. I really really wish we had all been fooled and the sisters hop on the plane somewhere but that just ain't going to happen, and it's so so bloody obvious now that Phil gets Ronnie's liver. I literally cannot believe what SOC is doing to this show. He will be charged with crimes against soap just as Bryan Birkwood was. I am fairly certain she is in the wedding episodes because of tweets by her and Rita Simons when they began filming at the country house for the hotel scenes. However it could be a series of coincidences as I am confused as to why Glenda would go to the wedding given how things were last left with the girls. It has been reported that she is at the funeral. As you say, however many episodes Glenda is in, she won't be in for long and it is doubtful we will ever see her again after that. |
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if anyone has read my past posts you will see im a bit of a soc hater,
then today whilst catching up i think ive hit on what the real problem is with eastenders, and it is the powers that be but in a differnt way than most seem to think, i think the issues are all down to contracts and avalibilty and cost cutting, for example, i love dot but shes the best one i can think of, i imagine june is on quite a good contract, ie she gets her huge salery (not debating that its been done) but she prob also has other things written in, eg a car to pick her up, certain hours/days she will wont work, now that all has to tally with directors and sets there using at any one time to make most effective use of time, so if sharon say has it written in she only workins 12-6 (extreme example) and has every wednesday off, it makes it differcult for her to have a storyline with vincent say who only works 4-11 bla bla bla, i not these examples are extreme but it makes scene, sharons not been seen with hardly any other cast bar the mitchills in months and thats usualy in there house, she didnt even turn up for the darts latley, now if u have a few cast like this, it must make it hell to organise, which must be where the awful block storylining comes in, the troble follows that you have endless weeks of dull crap then a few weeks of drama, that was the prob with DTC anyway, SOC seems to be moving away from all this and having more blend but i think the process of this is whats been making it for some very dull to watch, now people will defend him and say its more driven now etc, and maybe it is, but i think its a bigger picture than we realise, |
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You are overthinking things way too much and trying too hard to justify your "hate" for him.
It's only a soap. |
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You are overthinking things way too much and trying too hard to justify your "hate" for him.
It's only a soap. And it might only be a soap. But actually it's a business ans they must have to balance the books etc. - also only a soap with a multi million pound budget. It's not like they just all turn up and Kathy tells they where to stand and Casandra from only fools is doing a tap routine with bonnie Langford in the corner, Soaps are big business |
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I think money will be playing a key factor in it all. The reason there is probably lots of Louise, Bex and Shakil is because they are probably on the lowest wages of the entire adult cast.
Samantha Womack was probably on quite a good wage because of who she is, while Rita Simons has been in it for 9 years without a significant break of more than 4 months. I bet their axing has saved the production some money. I know Masood quit himself, but I bet that has saved them some money too, as he would of been on a good wage. |
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SOC wants characters to be punished. What could be worse for Ronnie than to have her Liver in that bald potato thug for the rest of his life. Its a shocker!
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if anyone has read my past posts you will see im a bit of a soc hater,
then today whilst catching up i think ive hit on what the real problem is with eastenders, and it is the powers that be but in a differnt way than most seem to think, i think the issues are all down to contracts and avalibilty and cost cutting, for example, i love dot but shes the best one i can think of, i imagine june is on quite a good contract, ie she gets her huge salery (not debating that its been done) but she prob also has other things written in, eg a car to pick her up, certain hours/days she will wont work, now that all has to tally with directors and sets there using at any one time to make most effective use of time, so if sharon say has it written in she only workins 12-6 (extreme example) and has every wednesday off, it makes it differcult for her to have a storyline with vincent say who only works 4-11 bla bla bla, i not these examples are extreme but it makes scene, sharons not been seen with hardly any other cast bar the mitchills in months and thats usualy in there house, she didnt even turn up for the darts latley, now if u have a few cast like this, it must make it hell to organise, which must be where the awful block storylining comes in, the troble follows that you have endless weeks of dull crap then a few weeks of drama, that was the prob with DTC anyway, SOC seems to be moving away from all this and having more blend but i think the process of this is whats been making it for some very dull to watch, now people will defend him and say its more driven now etc, and maybe it is, but i think its a bigger picture than we realise, I'd rather have a smaller cast contracted on a per month/year basis than what we have at the minute. Generally I am really enjoying EastEnders. Much more realistic and normal than previous years. Looking forward to the sisters going now. Absolutely sick and tired of them, especially ronnie, the entitled one. |
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I think you have hit the nail on the head really. Aren't actors contracted for so many eps a year? If this is the case, story-lines will be dictated by this. I think all the soaps do this/have been doing it for sometime. Problem is, it results in block storytelling.
I'd rather have a smaller cast contracted on a per month/year basis than what we have at the minute. Generally I am really enjoying EastEnders. Much more realistic and normal than previous years. Looking forward to the sisters going now. Absolutely sick and tired of them, especially ronnie, the entitled one. i think that eastenders has has such a gear shift its taking somtime to get used to, i like ronnie, i just think for the longest time they havnt known what to do with her, her 6 week return has lasted years yet she hasnt really evolved past a rather odd marrage to charlie, and having matthew, the problem i have with ronnie is that they heaped so much bad onto her its hard to believe that shes a real person, abd there for has real storlyines, making a cold blooded killer one week then never really mentioning it again hasnt helped, she has many similarities with sharon, who even tho i adore suffers the same way, o much mad happend, that i want her to be on fire and the boss now, yet since her return she seems very down trodden, obviously i dont mean her clothes and make up just attitude and her and denny makes me cringe every time, |
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