I still think things will pick up
Sean O'Connor is ruining EastEnders
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Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“I still think things will pick up”
“I still think things will pick up”
What stories has he actually created? The only one I can think of is Dot's blindness. The other stuff is just him either cleaning up messes or finishing stories that were left over from the previous regime.
We still have no idea what his long term ideas are or what characters he's going to create or bring back.
As I said he is taking things slowly but there is surely so much more to come.
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“What stories has he actually created? The only one I can think of is Dot's blindness. The other stuff is just him either cleaning up messes or finishing stories that were left over from the previous regime.
We still have no idea what his long term ideas are or what characters he's going to create or bring back.
As I said he is taking things slowly but there is surely so much more to come.”
“What stories has he actually created? The only one I can think of is Dot's blindness. The other stuff is just him either cleaning up messes or finishing stories that were left over from the previous regime.
We still have no idea what his long term ideas are or what characters he's going to create or bring back.
As I said he is taking things slowly but there is surely so much more to come.”
He is clearing DTC's mess so that he can bring the show back to it's roots but then theirs these stupid posters on this forum who go "Ahhh Lorraine Newman or Kirkwood" why don't you inpatient people wait give the guy a chance and stop judging him before we have seen his actual own work/storylines (Most of what we are seeing is DTC's storylines being finished off by SOC apart from Dot's) some people haven't even got patience want everything to happen straight away if you don't like it don't watch,
Originally Posted by Adam_Manneh1:
“He is clearing DTC's mess so that he can bring the show back to it's roots but then theirs these stupid posters on this forum who go "Ahhh Lorraine Newman or Kirkwood" why don't you inpatient people wait give the guy a chance and stop judging him before we have seen his actual own work/storylines (Most of what we are seeing is DTC's storylines being finished off by SOC apart from Dot's) some people haven't even got patience want everything to happen straight away if you don't like it don't watch,”
“He is clearing DTC's mess so that he can bring the show back to it's roots but then theirs these stupid posters on this forum who go "Ahhh Lorraine Newman or Kirkwood" why don't you inpatient people wait give the guy a chance and stop judging him before we have seen his actual own work/storylines (Most of what we are seeing is DTC's storylines being finished off by SOC apart from Dot's) some people haven't even got patience want everything to happen straight away if you don't like it don't watch,”
Does not matter who the Ep is people will always moan then change their mind when it suits them. Ee is great at the min. A lot is happening with not much happening. No need for over the top Sensationlist crap. You want that than HollyJokes is your show.
Originally Posted by SpiderMan 83:
“Does not matter who the Ep is people will always moan then change their mind when it suits them. Ee is great at the min. A lot is happening with not much happening. No need for over the top Sensationlist crap. You want that than HollyJokes is your show.”
“Does not matter who the Ep is people will always moan then change their mind when it suits them. Ee is great at the min. A lot is happening with not much happening. No need for over the top Sensationlist crap. You want that than HollyJokes is your show.”
Personally I find it quite dull but he's still settling in so hopefully the stuff he does hsve planned is good. No one is asking for 'ott sensationlist crap' but I doubt anyone wants bin plots or driving lessons to be the main focus all the time. Hollyoaks is actually a very good soap it may not be to everyone's taste but it keeps me interested more than EE does.
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Personally I find it quite dull but he's still settling in so hopefully the stuff he does hsve planned is good. No one is asking for 'ott sensationlist crap' but I doubt anyone wants bin plots or driving lessons to be the main focus all the time. Hollyoaks is actually a very good soap it may not be to everyone's taste but it keeps me interested more than EE does.”
“Personally I find it quite dull but he's still settling in so hopefully the stuff he does hsve planned is good. No one is asking for 'ott sensationlist crap' but I doubt anyone wants bin plots or driving lessons to be the main focus all the time. Hollyoaks is actually a very good soap it may not be to everyone's taste but it keeps me interested more than EE does.”
Everyone mentions these stories but they're just general recurring events. The main stories are Lee and Whitney, Denise's pregnancy, Ben's liver, Steven's deceit.
The bin stuff is good because its something that connects all the characters. It's not a main plot it just gives everyone something in common.
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“Everyone mentions these stories but they're just general recurring events. The main stories are Lee and Whitney, Denise's pregnancy, Ben's liver, Steven's deceit.
The bin stuff is good because its something that connects all the characters. It's not a main plot it just gives everyone something in common.”
“Everyone mentions these stories but they're just general recurring events. The main stories are Lee and Whitney, Denise's pregnancy, Ben's liver, Steven's deceit.
The bin stuff is good because its something that connects all the characters. It's not a main plot it just gives everyone something in common.”
The bin stuff is awful imo, maybe for one or two eps for something that is supposed to be filler it's gone on far too long. I also think it depends on what characters you like, I like Steven so I'm interested in his sl, I like Ben but sometimed the Mitchell stuff can get repetitive. As for the other main sls I don't find them at all interesting.
I think SOC is still sorting out dtc mess as well as introducing his own sl, hopefully once he settles in and can flesh out his sls things will pick up
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Emmerdale will have beaten EastEnders in tape checked ratings for Tuesday. Due to ITV shows not running for the full slot due to adverts, whereas BBC shows normally do, the full slot average is lower which is what the figures show for Tuesday.
And EE was still not over 6 million which is poor for a Tuesday where it has no competition in that slot.”
“Emmerdale will have beaten EastEnders in tape checked ratings for Tuesday. Due to ITV shows not running for the full slot due to adverts, whereas BBC shows normally do, the full slot average is lower which is what the figures show for Tuesday.
And EE was still not over 6 million which is poor for a Tuesday where it has no competition in that slot.”
Someone finally speaking sence.
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“The bin stuff is awful imo, maybe for one or two eps for something that is supposed to be filler it's gone on far too long.”
“The bin stuff is awful imo, maybe for one or two eps for something that is supposed to be filler it's gone on far too long.”
But that's not a realistic timeframe for a subplot like this to play out in, for it to be a one or two episode thing, it would have to have been happening for one or two days in the soap world, ergo, not the problem it is currently.
I think maybe viewers have become too accustomed to everything being said for plot purposes, that when something insignificant (but real) comes along that doesn't really fit the mold of a traditional storyline, it is questioned. Personally, I have no problem with the bin plot, it's been a very casual background plot and it's only the "I hate SOC" members on here that make it to be more than it is.
Originally Posted by MrAndrew:
“But that's not a realistic timeframe for a subplot like this to play out in, for it to be a one or two episode thing, it would have to have been happening for one or two days in the soap world, ergo, not the problem it is currently.
I think people have become too accustomed to everything being said for plot purposes, that when something insignificant (but real) comes along that doesn't really fit the mold of a traditional storyline, it is questioned. Personally, I have no problem with the bin plot, it's been a very casual background plot and it's only the "I hate SOC" members on here that make it to be more than it is.”
“But that's not a realistic timeframe for a subplot like this to play out in, for it to be a one or two episode thing, it would have to have been happening for one or two days in the soap world, ergo, not the problem it is currently.
I think people have become too accustomed to everything being said for plot purposes, that when something insignificant (but real) comes along that doesn't really fit the mold of a traditional storyline, it is questioned. Personally, I have no problem with the bin plot, it's been a very casual background plot and it's only the "I hate SOC" members on here that make it to be more than it is.”
Ok maybe realistically it would take longer to sort out but this is a tv show, for me it doesn't hold my interest. I don't hate the guy, I just think some of his stories so far are dull but like I said he's sorting out dtc mess and settling in, so once he does maybe things will pick up. I think his axings so far have been spot on, I like that if he has had the balls to axe certain characters. Anyway I wish him luck, and whatever his vision is for the show hopefully it's a good one.
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Personally I find it quite dull but he's still settling in so hopefully the stuff he does hsve planned is good. No one is asking for 'ott sensationlist crap' but I doubt anyone wants bin plots or driving lessons to be the main focus all the time. Hollyoaks is actually a very good soap it may not be to everyone's taste but it keeps me interested more than EE does.”
“Personally I find it quite dull but he's still settling in so hopefully the stuff he does hsve planned is good. No one is asking for 'ott sensationlist crap' but I doubt anyone wants bin plots or driving lessons to be the main focus all the time. Hollyoaks is actually a very good soap it may not be to everyone's taste but it keeps me interested more than EE does.”
I respect your opinion, and if you believe it to be dull, then not much can anyone say. I do think a lot more things will come to ahead with bin gate etc and we have the likes of the Mitchel sisters, Babes, Lee and Massoods exits. Guess he has to reshape the cast for it to really take form.
No-one knows if the bin stuff is filler or if it's leading somewhere. That's part of the interest for me. Why write it off as boring cr4p, why not just go along with it and see what happens? Okay, it may just be there to help characters interact but equally it may be included in order to facilitate the run up to someone's death, who knows? 
Personally I'm really enjoying the show. I would love for Stacey to get a big story again as Lacey is amazing but I'm also enjoying her quieter stint as the head of the Fowlers. She's one of the most real characters the show has ever had. Denise's baby will bring a lot of drama and give her a connection to the Mitchell's so I don't think Sean has any plans to get rid of her and Diane is now in her tenth year on the show and he should make sure he does what he can to keep characters that have a lot of history.
Exciting upcoming storylines on the horizon include
- The loos at The Vic get clogged up
- The return of Dot's cold cuts
- Ava and Dexter set up a Fizz Lemon stall
- Phil rejects Ben for being gay
- Billy faces financial crisis
- Kidneygate Part 3
Prepare yourselves for a wild ride!
- The loos at The Vic get clogged up
- The return of Dot's cold cuts
- Ava and Dexter set up a Fizz Lemon stall
- Phil rejects Ben for being gay
- Billy faces financial crisis
- Kidneygate Part 3
Prepare yourselves for a wild ride!
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Ok maybe realistically it would take longer to sort out but this is a tv show, for me it doesn't hold my interest. I don't hate the guy, I just think some of his stories so far are dull but like I said he's sorting out dtc mess and settling in, so once he does maybe things will pick up. I think his axings so far have been spot on, I like that if he has had the balls to axe certain characters. Anyway I wish him luck, and whatever his vision is for the show hopefully it's a good one.”
“Ok maybe realistically it would take longer to sort out but this is a tv show, for me it doesn't hold my interest. I don't hate the guy, I just think some of his stories so far are dull but like I said he's sorting out dtc mess and settling in, so once he does maybe things will pick up. I think his axings so far have been spot on, I like that if he has had the balls to axe certain characters. Anyway I wish him luck, and whatever his vision is for the show hopefully it's a good one.”
Its Love & Warmth part 2.
It's been bloody boring since Grant Mitchell left our screens which seems like ages ago. We need a gripping storyline again. Why can't the script writers come up with some decent storylines considering how much money they get paid.
Originally Posted by Tiffani:
“It's been bloody boring since Grant Mitchell left our screens which seems like ages ago. We need a gripping storyline again. Why can't the script writers come up with some decent storylines considering how much money they get paid.”
“It's been bloody boring since Grant Mitchell left our screens which seems like ages ago. We need a gripping storyline again. Why can't the script writers come up with some decent storylines considering how much money they get paid.”
How can you want Grant back? You died running away from the old brute!
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“Bin gate will probably out live Phil at this rate!”
“Bin gate will probably out live Phil at this rate!”
Was that the conclusion tonight with the lorry ?
My god this episode is mind numbing.
I don't want to give the new producer a chance I've seen enough already :O
What a missed opportunity they had to really inject some life into the show with the wedding episode. I was looking forward to it as I was convinced something awful would happen to Lee, but absolutely nothing happened.
I'm all for making EastEnders a bit more realistic and grounded, but not completely at the expense of any excitement or tension. Nobody's talking about it now. I notice that for the first time in a very long time that they have not got any stories featured on the front cover of What's on TV this week.
I'm all for making EastEnders a bit more realistic and grounded, but not completely at the expense of any excitement or tension. Nobody's talking about it now. I notice that for the first time in a very long time that they have not got any stories featured on the front cover of What's on TV this week.
Originally Posted by SuperSoaper:
“What a missed opportunity they had to really inject some life into the show with the wedding episode. I was looking forward to it as I was convinced something awful would happen to Lee, but absolutely nothing happened.
I'm all for making EastEnders a bit more realistic and grounded, but not completely at the expense of any excitement or tension. Nobody's talking about it now. I notice that for the first time in a very long time that they have not got any stories featured on the front cover of What's on TV this week.”
“What a missed opportunity they had to really inject some life into the show with the wedding episode. I was looking forward to it as I was convinced something awful would happen to Lee, but absolutely nothing happened.
I'm all for making EastEnders a bit more realistic and grounded, but not completely at the expense of any excitement or tension. Nobody's talking about it now. I notice that for the first time in a very long time that they have not got any stories featured on the front cover of What's on TV this week.”
It'll be back, you can always count on EE to have some sort of big story over the holidays. That's normally the nature of the show.
Originally Posted by SuperSoaper:
“What a missed opportunity they had to really inject some life into the show with the wedding episode. I was looking forward to it as I was convinced something awful would happen to Lee, but absolutely nothing happened.
I'm all for making EastEnders a bit more realistic and grounded, but not completely at the expense of any excitement or tension. Nobody's talking about it now. I notice that for the first time in a very long time that they have not got any stories featured on the front cover of What's on TV this week.”
“What a missed opportunity they had to really inject some life into the show with the wedding episode. I was looking forward to it as I was convinced something awful would happen to Lee, but absolutely nothing happened.
I'm all for making EastEnders a bit more realistic and grounded, but not completely at the expense of any excitement or tension. Nobody's talking about it now. I notice that for the first time in a very long time that they have not got any stories featured on the front cover of What's on TV this week.”
Are you saying Whats on TV missed out on covering Bin-gate and Kim's driving chaos? What sort of rag does that?
Originally Posted by Danny_Francis:
“It'll be back, you can always count on EE to have some sort of big story over the holidays. That's normally the nature of the show.”
“It'll be back, you can always count on EE to have some sort of big story over the holidays. That's normally the nature of the show.”
I really really do not think so . I think this is pretty much the show until the current producers contract is inevitably cut short Birkwood style, but probably even earlier!
I sense a backlash if anything on the way after Ronnie and Roxy's strange pool scene airs.
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“I really really do not think so . I think this is pretty much the show until the current producers contract is inevitably cut short Birkwood style, but probably even earlier!
I sense a backlash if anything on the way after Ronnie and Roxy's strange pool scene airs.”
“I really really do not think so . I think this is pretty much the show until the current producers contract is inevitably cut short Birkwood style, but probably even earlier!
I sense a backlash if anything on the way after Ronnie and Roxy's strange pool scene airs.”
You'll have...
The conclusion of Phil's liver transplant story
Denise's pregnancy reveal and fall out
Ronnie and Roxy's death
Lee's departure
All up and coming that's enough to get your teeth into, I think.
Originally Posted by Danny_Francis:
“You'll have...
The conclusion of Phil's liver transplant story
Denise's pregnancy reveal and fall out
Ronnie and Roxy's death
Lee's departure
All up and coming that's enough to get your teeth into, I think.”
“You'll have...
The conclusion of Phil's liver transplant story
Denise's pregnancy reveal and fall out
Ronnie and Roxy's death
Lee's departure
All up and coming that's enough to get your teeth into, I think.”
Phil's liver I'm mildly interested in.
The rest I could not care less about. I'm actually dreading Ronnie/Roxy as I do not think they should be killed off.
I took liberty of checking out social media tonight, EastEnders is getting an absolute bashing!
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