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Old 27-10-2016, 23:50
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Tonights episode was showing that he needs money from somewhere so he decides to get a loan. But is anyone thinking that he is pretending to have a job so he does not want to disappoint Whitney
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Old 28-10-2016, 00:06
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I suspect he has a job but will get sacked for skiving to go and marry the shopaholic.
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Old 28-10-2016, 00:11
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Tonights episode was showing that he needs money from somewhere so he decides to get a loan. But is anyone thinking that he is pretending to have a job so he does not want to disappoint Whitney
Yes, I've been thinking that but it means the problem with not being able to get time off for the wedding *and* the honeymoon was a bit of an unnecessary lie. Realistic perhaps but why not say he can't get time off for the honeymoon (we know he can't afford it anyway) and simply say that he was able to get just the one day off for the wedding itself? Most employers would be sympathetic if you'd already got a wedding booked before starting the job and let you have that day off.

His hesitation over the loan application was another clue, he wouldn't be that concerned if he was going to be getting a City salary every month.

I think it's all a front to save face in front of Witney and Mick/Linda.
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Old 28-10-2016, 00:14
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I think he's lying or his new job is not a city job
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Old 28-10-2016, 00:25
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I think he is either lying about getting the job or he got the job, turned up and couldn't handle it so they got rid of him. Sounds crazy but I'd imagine the turnover is very quick, if you don't hit the ground running they'll replace you because they know there's loads of people out there who would jump at the chance of working in the city.

And no offence to Lee or to anyone working in that world but I think you have to be ruthless if you really want to succeed and leave your morals at the door pretty much. I don't think Lee has it in him to do that.
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Old 28-10-2016, 01:02
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I agree with Swangirl, I think Lee did get the job but he's already been sacked, due to not being able to handle the stress.

I find Lee's story is incredibly sad, because I see a bit of myself in there.
I've started job's in the midst of a mental health crisis and ended up bombing, losing the job and being on the dole. I pretended for a good while to my family that I was still working, until eventually they sussed that I wasn't. I was not in a good place and I thought if people saw me not working, they would know. So I kept up the pretense.

Lee's depression storyline has never really been concluded, if you can conclude such a story. But there was never any sort of turning point for him. They put him on medication and there, that's that. And that is a very common, very realistic portrayal of someone with depression. Give them medication and then forget about it, the depression will go away.
His issues were never fully explored or treated, and that was I think was a deliberate part of the story.

In my own experience, I found telling my family I was gay much easier, than telling them I was suffering with depression. They didn't quite grasp it and seemed to want to instantly fix it, and I see a lot of that in how the Carters and Whitney have treated Lee. I had mum lose patience with me because I wasn't getting it together quick enough, that sort of thing. We've seen Lee have a lot of pressure put on him, so it wouldn't surprise me if he is indeed, going through the motions of someone working, but isn't actually going to a job everyday. Where does he go? I think the answer and the real story will be heartbreaking.
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Old 28-10-2016, 01:03
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I think he is either lying about getting the job or he got the job, turned up and couldn't handle it so they got rid of him. Sounds crazy but I'd imagine the turnover is very quick, if you don't hit the ground running they'll replace you because they know there's loads of people out there who would jump at the chance of working in the city.

And no offence to Lee or to anyone working in that world but I think you have to be ruthless if you really want to succeed and leave your morals at the door pretty much. I don't think Lee has it in him to do that
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BIB - Bradley Branning was a City Banker until Dot had a go at the female boss who made a very aggressive pass at him and Bradley wasn't very ruthless or immoral.

The Carters are carrying on like Lee has a job as a Banker or Stock-broker, but Lee doesn't have a degree (which is pretty much a requirement as I understand it) so what is he supposed to be doing? I suspect he has a job in the City of London but something far lower paid and less impressive than he's making out.
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Old 28-10-2016, 01:58
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I think it's all a front to save face in front of Witney and Mick/Linda.
The idea of an idiot as it cannot last
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Old 28-10-2016, 02:13
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The idea of an idiot as it cannot last
The poor lad is suffering from severe clinical depression.

For someone who follows the teachings of Yeshua Ben Yosef (whether he actually existed or not) I would have thought you would show a bit of compassion.
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Old 28-10-2016, 02:18
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I suspect he has a job but will get sacked for skiving to go and marry the shopaholic.
Poor lad has no idea that Whitney is a rinser !
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Old 28-10-2016, 02:22
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The poor lad is suffering from severe clinical depression.

For someone who follows the teachings of Yeshua Ben Yosef (whether he actually existed or not) I would have thought you would show a bit of compassion.
I believe in honesty and he's not being honest. He has a family who could support him but he's sly and stupid.
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Old 28-10-2016, 02:24
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He's a bit of a drip. Nice enough lad but seems socially devoid of any personality or social skills.

How he succeeded in the army was a mystery.

I mean taking the loan is hardly a big decision.. I mean worst case scenario he is paying back a fiver a week or something ! or goes bankrupt.. hardly anything to worry about for a dream honeymoon and wedding.

Show a backbone, Lee !
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Old 28-10-2016, 04:30
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I was actually thinking the same thing as the OP, first off its a soap and usually when it comes to money issues they are usually way off base and don't get me started on how they are able to organise & pay for weddings at the drop of a hat.

The type of 'Sales Exec' job that Lee could get in the city, without a very good degree and or sales experience is likely to be something which is very heavily based on commission. This kind of job doesn't really suit someone with Lee's issues, he needs something more dependable and routine.

Lee suffers from feelings of inadequacy, something which can both cause depression and can be a symptom of depression. And as for marrying someone who tried to kiss your dad, this isn't going to help reassure him, he needs someone who will bolster his confidence, someone like a younger version of Jane.
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Old 28-10-2016, 06:49
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So he has a "executive job in the city". What does that even mean. People dont actually call it that !
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Old 28-10-2016, 06:55
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So he has a "executive job in the city". What does that even mean. People dont actually call it that !
It could mean he is a bog cleaner in a inner city office block.
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Old 28-10-2016, 08:33
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I was thinking it is something shady, like rentboy?
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Old 28-10-2016, 08:39
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I was thinking it is something shady, like rentboy?
Maybe him and Ben have been getting it on.
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Old 28-10-2016, 08:57
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I believe in honesty and he's not being honest. He has a family who could support him but he's sly and stupid.
How ignorant.
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Old 28-10-2016, 09:14
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BIB - Bradley Branning was a City Banker until Dot had a go at the female boss who made a very aggressive pass at him and Bradley wasn't very ruthless or immoral.

The Carters are carrying on like Lee has a job as a Banker or Stock-broker, but Lee doesn't have a degree (which is pretty much a requirement as I understand it) so what is he supposed to be doing? I suspect he has a job in the City of London but something far lower paid and less impressive than he's making out.
It's sales isn;t it? Which means base salary is really low and money is made from commission (ie.making sales) and you have targets to meet. It would be strange for him to have been fired just yet as he's only been in the job a few days/a week? He'd have to have shown himself to not cope but it would take a few weeks for him to have been let off :s But base salary of salespersons are low. They rely on commission!
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Old 28-10-2016, 09:26
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I think he is either lying about getting the job or he got the job, turned up and couldn't handle it so they got rid of him. Sounds crazy but I'd imagine the turnover is very quick, if you don't hit the ground running they'll replace you because they know there's loads of people out there who would jump at the chance of working in the city.

And no offence to Lee or to anyone working in that world but I think you have to be ruthless if you really want to succeed and leave your morals at the door pretty much. I don't think Lee has it in him to do that.
What does " working in the city " actually mean ? Is it a UK word for some specific job ?
Here in Dublin many people " work in the city " but they could range from bankers to Mc Donalds workers to street cleaners ?
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Old 28-10-2016, 09:50
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Maybe his job is an apprenticeship so he'd be earning like 3 quid an hour
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Old 28-10-2016, 09:51
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What does " working in the city " actually mean ? Is it a UK word for some specific job ?
Here in Dublin many people " work in the city " but they could range from bankers to Mc Donalds workers to street cleaners ?
It normally relates to the "City of London", or the "Square Mile" which is traditionally the financial district where all the banks and stockbrokers are based, although a lot of it has moved to Docklands these days. The assumption would be that he's doing something involved with finance but all they've said is "sales". You'd assume that it's a good job with good pay, which is kind of what we're being led to believe with Lee, but it doesn't necessarily follow.
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Old 28-10-2016, 10:27
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It normally relates to the "City of London", or the "Square Mile" which is traditionally the financial district where all the banks and stockbrokers are based, although a lot of it has moved to Docklands these days. The assumption would be that he's doing something involved with finance but all they've said is "sales". You'd assume that it's a good job with good pay, which is kind of what we're being led to believe with Lee, but it doesn't necessarily follow.
Thank you ! I had no idea .
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Old 28-10-2016, 10:31
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If he has a sales job, he might need to hit targets, get leads, and it is one of the most high pressure jobs out there. You get talked to like rubbish from bosses who only care about getting leads and the public for doing you're job.. it is like the worst job for someone with depression/anxiety. It's too unpredictable and not a stable job, as staff turnover is huge. Poor Lee.. feel sorry for him

He might've got sacked, that's why he was so down in the pub last night and applied for that payday loan.
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Old 28-10-2016, 10:44
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BIB - Bradley Branning was a City Banker until Dot had a go at the female boss who made a very aggressive pass at him and Bradley wasn't very ruthless or immoral.

The Carters are carrying on like Lee has a job as a Banker or Stock-broker, but Lee doesn't have a degree (which is pretty much a requirement as I understand it) so what is he supposed to be doing? I suspect he has a job in the City of London but something far lower paid and less impressive than he's making out.
It's sales isn;t it? Which means base salary is really low and money is made from commission (ie.making sales) and you have targets to meet. It would be strange for him to have been fired just yet as he's only been in the job a few days/a week? He'd have to have shown himself to not cope but it would take a few weeks for him to have been let off :s But base salary of salespersons are low. They rely on commission!
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