I can never resist replying to these posts...

Daleks have always done stairs. The BBC's budget constraints meant that they could never afford to show it. There is an awful joke in Destiny of the Daleks about stairs which seems to have stuck in everyone's mind ever since, but the Daleks get everywhere!!

And this one exterminated about 200 people in a very short space of time. The Daleks aren't nice, but this story wasn't about "The Daleks" it was about one solitary Dalek...

That was what always worried me about the HGW story. If he didn't move in space, why did he disappear? He should have just stopped moving (as far as the 'normal' people were concerned)...

And, just to be picky , time travel does exist - we do it (going forward) all the time! We could, I would imagine, "emulate" travelling to the future using hibernation. The bit that can't be done (as far as we know) is the going backwards bit!

K

This is an excellent observation. This is typical mammalian male courtship behavior (look at my big mussels, feathers, whatever )

Of course, the Dr isn't human. But as the writer is, I think we can forget about that.

Add in the fact (mentioned earlier), that Rose had a wee female power grin to herself when she thought the Dr had come running back to her.

Also mentioned earlier was the possibility of Rose being attracted to older men because she grew up without a father, who we now know was a heavily romanticized version of the actual man.

As for constantly denying the blindingly obvious (i.e. the attraction between her and the Dr), this isn't uncommon behavior either (female desire to be pursued and wooed).

It's getting pretty hard to deny that there is a very intimate relationship building between these two.

Assuming these observations are correct, this makes the introduction of Captain Jack a brilliant plot move. There's nothing like the sexual tension of a love triangle to upset the space-time continuum!

This episode was boring and predictable from the start, and some what clichéd. The story was full of holes and did not do justice to the background stories of Dr who in the past.

A lot of people seem to love it, but I feel that it has bad story and bad acting, and while some may find Eccleston’s accent acceptable, I really don’t, its bad detail on a great series.

big mussels? i've always found large oysters more effective!

Whatever helps you keep your end up

Could it be possible that



It is just a potential spoiler

CE wont regenerate at the end of the series, the series was already in the can before the BBC, rather stupidly and inaccurately announced he'd quit rather than asking him if he'd like renew his existing single series contract on a year by year basis first. He IS contracted for the as yet to be filmed xmas special so i'm presuming he'll regenerate into DT at the end of that

Didn't someone else say that CE and DT are in the cast list for ep13?

K

Yeah i just read that in another thread BUT i went on David Tennant's imdb file and its listed as Doctor Who (2005) The Doctor ( 2006) He isnt listed as being in Parting Of The Ways

I'm pretty sure he CANT be in episode 13 given that it was in the can before he was cast but i might be wrong, they could have done a reshoot but that info i think came from tvtome and they could just be labouring under a misapprehension, not knowing CE to be in the Xmas special and knowing DT to be taking over after 1 series

'spose we could always just wait and see!

K

If you read my follow up post, I did say that I was being rather zealous in my criticism on Rose and that I could and indeed do feel for her after all that she had gone through...

I'm sorry to hear of your loss and I can totally relate to what you have said and also to Rose and her experiences. My mother had a heart attack on Dec 03 2002, In my situation however, I was actually there when she had her heart attack, I sat there with her waiting for the ambulance to come, I went to the hospital with her and waited with her until the next morning when she died

I was more fortunate in the sense that I was in my early thirties when that happened. If I could go back and change things would I ? Yes of course I would ! But I also think that some things are meant to be and no matter how hard we try there are sadly some things that we can't change no matter how badly we want them or need them too

I don't wish that sound sound unsmypathertic, as it is not meant in that way, at all. I don't know... perhaps I have a different outlook on life, perhaps I see and think about things differently, but one thing is for certain, life is very short and we should all make the best of it whilst we have our very short time here !

My 3 year old and my 8 year old absolutely begged from 4pm yesterday to watch Dr. Who as I thought the Reapers in this one may give them nightmares. I relented though as they really love the monsters and stuff on Dr. Who (I have to admit I do too as from an early age) Oh My God even though you knew what had to happen to heal the time wound it was so emotional for me my daughter even brought me the tissue box as I could not stop crying at the end my husband laughed saying I am so sweet crying at Dr. Who and any other programme which makes me upset. Well done to all the people on this episode.

BTW. I felt more for the Tardis than the Dr. in this Episode.

Love it Love it Just LOVE IT.

Well we know DW beat Celeb Wrestling, so I'm sure he can make the Semi-final easy and go on to win

'FATHER'S DAY' is an episode focusing on the Assistant rather than the Doctor, and frankly that's a good thing here, because Billie Piper outdoes Eccleston's unconvincing Doctor.

Paul Cornell's predilection for overwrought drama makes this episode a poignant piece on loss and nature of family relationships. Piper conveys her raw, tender feelings with teary-eyes and much pathos. The father never shed a tear, and neither did I.

It's certainly not usual 'Who, and so it felt fresh and healthy for the series to include this type of story. Good tv drama.

Hi and welcome to the forums !

I felt very much the same way at first, but I find the best thing to do is just join in and have fun , lol

I totally agree that listening to the posters here greatly adds to the fun of it all A lot of the times things are said and added that I wouldn't usually see or think about... although at times it really makes one's head hurt

Bafta for Billie i say, but not CE or RTD the other scriptwriters, like Paul Cornell and Mark Gatiss deserve gongs though

Totally agree - when the TARDIS key was glowing I thought "Yes! The old girl is looking for the doctor!".

When the Reaper appeared to get the doctor I wasn't really bothered, but then the TARDIS disappeared... ooooh!!!

I agree that The Doctor loves Rose and Rose loves The Doctor, but I'm not so sure that they are in love with eachother...

Personally I saw the smile on her face as one of relief, I say that due to the look in her eyes... Although I do agree that there was also certain look of self satisfaction in there as well, lol I do think that she knew he would be back as The Doctor is lonely and she knew that he would have no one else to go back to...

I also think that after tonight's episode that The Doctor has a greater understanding of Rose and Rose of him and I think that will only strengthen their friendship...

I see it differently - she got to meet her dad because the Doctor is clearly in love with her and so indulged her the visit to her dad. It was he who took them back to the 80s and accompanied her, clearly letting his heart rule his head as it was the wrong thing to do and an abuse of time-travel power.

What on earth does this mean? That no-one on TV should have an accent other than American/Queen's English? There are millions of people in this country for whom Christopher Eccleston does not *have* an accent, and millions of others (well, me, anyway) for whom his accent is utterly adorable. It's the London accents - including Rose's - that stand out and grate as far as I am concerned (but I am certainly not judging the show on the fact that some of the best characters have accents that I find rather unattractive).

Agreed ! lol

Personally I wouldn't want that to happen, I think that they have a unique friendship that would irrevocably damaged if something like that were to happen.

I see The Doctor as a guide to Rose, he let's her be free and be herself, he let's her explore things that she may not have been able to (The Doctor letting Rose go back in time to se her father's death shows that I think) He sees something special in her and saw it from when her first met her, but I don't think that his intentions are any more than that...

I also think that Rose is a guide to The Doctor as well, although The Doctor has encountered many stupid apes How much does he truly understand them ? I think that through Rose, The Doctor is getting a new appreciation and understanding of what it is like to be human and indeed the human state of being itself.

After all that is what the makers of this series have said that they have wanted to do...

What's the betting it happens just before the regeneration, then they have to start their relationship all over again.

Can't understand the criticism CE gets, his flippant behavior and occasional indifference is clearly masking other emotions (i.e the destruction of 'his people'). I think it's played brilliantly by Ecclestone. If he was too wacky, he'd be like any other Doctor, too emotional, there would not be any sparks with Rose.

I felt the same way, lol When that door swung open I though oh F*** !!! How the hell is he going to get out of this one with out the TARDIS

I think it may be due to the fact that over the years different Doctor's have come and gone (even though we all love them and have our favourites ) but the TARDIS has always remained constant (except for the few times the chamelion circuit actually worked ) and hopefully will always remain