There would be three people present...The Doctor, Rose and Captain Jack.

Captain Jack is supposed to be some kind of intergalatic rogue who will go to any lengths to get what he wants.

Was reading on ITV's teletext service this morning...Page 131..



Makes you wonder what his agenda is and what he is hiding. He could be a Geocomtex agent but could he also be a survivor from the last great Time War?

I like the war-time poster look on the official DW site promoting The Empty Child

It certainly has - very IPX. Very Babylon 5!

"Horrible" Doctor Who toned down

Just a quick point of interest folks if you type in 236801 quantum to google there's a whole load of scientific blurb on electronic droplets and the Quantum hall. Of course this could also be spurious nonsense and I'm probably clutching at straws

Having just watched *fathers day* again on video
i noticed that after the opening credits,
it cuts straight to rose's parents getting married
with the doctor and rose in attendance at the church

Then it cuts back to jackie telling young rose
about her dad
then it cuts back to the tardis
with the doctor finally taking rose to 1987
and the other wedding

so....did they attend rose's parents wedding or not?

im confused lol....(nothing new there then)

I'd love to know what the "morality police" would've made of Solon picking up Morbius' brain off the floor of his lab to check it for damage if that was part of this new series...still, do we think the BBC3 repeat of "The Empty Child" will be intact?

You referring to Mary Whitehouse's VLA, and the other 'media watchdogs' and busybodies or the BBC executives who made this small edit to Saturday's programme?

It's hard to imagine how the scene in question could be any more gruesome than the Doctor and Rose being splattered with bits of Cassandra, in Episode Two of said new series... I suppose it has everything to do with tone, and context.


The listings at www.radiotimes.com are still indicating a five-minute difference between the running times of the original showing and the BBC3 repeat. Quite how that would be accounted for by the removal of one sound effect is anyone's guess.

I miss MW as it goes, she had the most amazing knack of boosting ratings for shows: she was personally responsible for the sustained success of "The Goodies" for a start...as for the BBC execs, they're kind of out of the frame on this one, it sounds like a production decision for the time slot since it's Phil Collinson who's quoted on the website.

[The listings at www.radiotimes.com are still indicating a five-minute difference between the running times of the original showing and the BBC3 repeat. Quite how that would be accounted for by the removal of one sound effect, is anyone's guess.[/quote]

lets hope the bbc3 late night showing is intact, although even from the trailer the ep looks like it might be a bit much for the wee ones... of course that's what dw is supposed to be about.. we finally get an episode which looks worthy of hiding behind the sofa, and the bbc go and cut it!

i wonder if ITV will be making cuts based on morality to star wars on saturday night? or whether five will deem charmed or buffy (it s the episode with the baseball kid in a coma cos his dad beat him for losing a game) morally offensive in the same time slot?

Sorry for replying to my own post... just an afterthought: the obvious exception to this would have to be the Slitheen "comedy fart" sound effect, without which the story might have quite comfortably fitted into a single-episode slot (insert punchline here).

If we're making the case for other shows/films to be edited on moral grounds surely celbrity love island should be censored with immediate effect (that and the fact that its an affront to common sense.) Should the scene where Qui Gon Jin is slain also be edited, while we're at it lets chop bits out of Bob the builder for subliminal phallic references.

I am very interested by the BAD WOLF references, but have only noticed a couple so far! The Moxx and Gwyneth both mentioned it, and it was painted on the Tardis on Rose's estate.

What other references have there been that have gone over my head?

This thread is now 33 pages long, and I am completely losing it ...

Ta,
chuff.x.

Hiya Chuff, all I can recall right now are:
Bad Wolf TV showing the face of boe in The Long Game
Bad Wolf scrawled on the smily poster in Father's Day
Bad Wolf 1 was Van Statten's Helicopter in Dalek
There was a screen on the BBC website home for TLG that flashed Bad Wolf when you clicked it.
The Geocomtex website has bad wolf in morse code and also refers to lupus and nucens which I'm told are latin for wolf and bad respectively...

Anymore for anymore anyone?

Oh and there's a website forum devoted to it which is a bit quiet but has some interesting info/theories from posters at http://www.bad-wolf.org.uk

Rose tells the Doctor she wants to see her father.

They go and watch the wedding.

Back in the Tardis Rose asks if she can go back to the day he died, so he won't die alone.

You know the rest

Speaking of phallic references .. I hope that's an airship hovering over the Houses of Parliament
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho

So when they was at rose's parents wedding,
could no one see them or something?

Or did they just sneak in ?

That bit wasn't explained. They were just there, sitting on the back row.

Well, after my post yesterday regarding making the whole thread a spoiler thread, I did wonder if it would deter certain people from participating if there was a chance they might come across stuff they didn't want to know, so I suppose just carrying on with the spoiler tags is probably the best way forward and no need to put (may contains spoilers) in the thread title.

Of course, speculation can't be counted as a spoiler since it's just a theory, but known facts from future episodes should be kept as covered up as your great grandmother's ankles

Hey Andy and welcome along. Glad you enjoyed the episode.

The question of downloading is a tricky one and being fought by finer minds than mine - legal ones too. As far as I can understand things, the recording of a broadcast for your own personal viewing is not illegal. Obviously the sharing of that recording with other people is.

Anyway, if you like something enough to want to watch it again, you should buy a copy once it becomes available in the shops. The individual DVD's (3-episodes per disk) are coming out quickly as the series is aired (the first three episodes are available now) but you may want to hang fire, as these are 'vanilla' releases and contain no extras.

A special, Tardis-shaped boxed set will be available in November, containing all of the episodes along with out-takes, interviews etc.
Last edited by DenWatts : 18-05-2005 at 15:42

Sorry - I meant to say that at least two of the people concerned needed to be temporal engineers.