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25 | 3.51% |
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168 | 23.60% |
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415 | 58.29% |
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#901 |
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Originally Posted by DenWatts
Nice one re-offender... I wonder if that has anything to do with the episode being slightly shorter on it's BBC1 outing, than on the later showing on BBC3?
i have just been looking at the forum on outpost gallifrey and no one seems able to confirm if the bbc3 shows are on for slightly longer oh....which one do i tape ? lol |
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was i the only one crying towards the end?
Umm No! 95% were if the read the whole thread and the other 5% are lying!
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i heaved a great sigh of relief at the end of father's day
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i heaved a great sigh of relief at the end of father's day
![]() glad that 24 people (at the last) count agreed with me Sorry, I stand corrected. 95% Cried, 5% Lied and 3.7% where Vulcans!
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Originally Posted by Author69
You know, sometimes I think I must be REALLY thick...
The Keeper of Traken was first shown in 1981; I've read the novelisation, I've watched the video numerous times, and indeed caught the episode only a few weeks ago on UK Gold, and do you know what... this is the VERY FIRST time I have ever realised TREMAS is an anagram of MASTER (and only then because it was pointed out!) DOH!!! And here am I, first novel about to be published, in which character names and place names are so important that they give the game away if you sit and think about them too long.
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Originally Posted by Bigus_Dikus
At the end of "Father's Day" ?
Umm No! 95% were if the read the whole thread and the other 5% are lying! ![]()
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Sorry, I stand corrected.
95% Cried, 5% Lied and 3.7% where Vulcans! ![]()
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Originally Posted by Alrightmate
I don't know it might have already been mentioned by somebody. I just can't remember.
Anyway, the recurring theme I noticed was The Sun. It has been featured very prominently in several episodes so far. Earlier on today I watched The Long Game again. That was the only episode I'd seen only once, so I watched it again today. It actually was okay on a second viewing. Not too bad, but not one of the best. But nayway, it while watching that episode that I noticed a few little things and made me realise the references to the Sun in other episodes. In Episode 2: The End of the World, the entire episode was based on the Sun exploding. In Episode 6 alek, there was an extended sequence involving the Sun at the end (But this could have just been coincidence)In Episode 7: The Long Game, a news item appeared on the TV set reporting the sun flares. It was at that point It seemed a bit curious as to why the train of thought decided to create that news sequence. It was the sequence just before Boe was reported as pregnant on Bad Wolf TV. But in Episode 8: Father's Day, the sun references were stronger than in any other episode. The posters on walls saying "Time to Energise" or something like that. The lettering appearing underneath the fly poster images of a Sun...It just feels like the Sun is a theme for some reason. How, why? I don't know, it's just that it's been featuring a lot. Things like the news item in the Long Game, and Pete's solar power invention don't feel as though they have just been put in there at random. I'm sure that there may be other references to the Sun in other episodes, but I wasn't noticing them before And from last Saturday's episode, Father's Day, the Sun references appear to becoming more frequent now. ![]() Interesting. You set me off on a train of thought. "My planet's gone. It burned, like the Earth "The entire Dalek race wiped out in one second...10 million ships all on fire", "You destroyed us?......I had no choice, "And what of the Timelords?", "......Dead. They burned with you." From that it sounds like the Doctor caused the Gallifrey Sun to go supernova, much like he did with the Skaro Sun, as the only way to prevent a successful Dalek invasion and stop them getting their suckers on superior time travel technology. Although why that would cause them and the Timelords to be wiped out of space and time i've no idea. Something to do with the supernova turning into a black hole afterwards, perhaps? |
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Look, everyone. The Search function is back!
Well, it is at 6.22, anway. That's going to be very handy in these threads. |
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Look, everyone. The Search function is back!
Well, it is at 6.22, anway. That's going to be very handy in these threads. |
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For example, want to find the first mention of 'Bad Wolf' in these threads? Here it is, message 48
I'm sure there must have been an earlier mention. |
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He's referring to the Moxx's comment of a 'Bad Wolf scenario' in Episode 2, but it wasn't until Gwyneth mentioned it in Episode 3 and it was seen in the Episode 4 trailer, that anybody, on this forum at least, picked up on it. Indeed, it wasn't until then that I noticed it in Episode 1 - Post 368
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Oh right. I get it. Sorry.
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[quote=afcbfan]
"The entire Dalek race wiped out in one second...10 million ships all on fire", "You destroyed us?......I had no choice, "And what of the Timelords?", "......Dead. They burned with you."QUOTE] something has occurred to me on this one; if the doctor did indeed wipe out the entire dalek race, then somewhere along the line there must have been a huge shift in his morality; think back to genesis of the daleks when TB talked himself out of destroying the daleks before they had evolved, with the logic that such destructive forces can have a positive effect on the universe in terms of uniting different planets and races in their fight against the daleks.. at this point the doctor knew that he had been sent there by the timelords in order to stop davros in his tracks yet he stopped short of doing so. surely it cannot be merely the threat posed to his home planet which changed his outlook so much? the image of internal "creature" in Dalek evoked for me the laboratory in Genesis that the doctor held back from destroying, yet evoked a markedly different response.. any thoughts on this? |
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According to my mediaguardian press summary email this morning, The Star contains a story saying that:
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[quote=andyk481] Quote:
Originally Posted by afcbfan
"The entire Dalek race wiped out in one second...10 million ships all on fire", "You destroyed us?......I had no choice, "And what of the Timelords?", "......Dead. They burned with you."QUOTE]
something has occurred to me on this one; if the doctor did indeed wipe out the entire dalek race, then somewhere along the line there must have been a huge shift in his morality; think back to genesis of the daleks when TB talked himself out of destroying the daleks before they had evolved, with the logic that such destructive forces can have a positive effect on the universe in terms of uniting different planets and races in their fight against the daleks.. at this point the doctor knew that he had been sent there by the timelords in order to stop davros in his tracks yet he stopped short of doing so. surely it cannot be merely the threat posed to his home planet which changed his outlook so much? the image of internal "creature" in Dalek evoked for me the laboratory in Genesis that the doctor held back from destroying, yet evoked a markedly different response.. any thoughts on this? |
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Originally Posted by *Duncan*
According to my mediaguardian press summary email this morning, The Star contains a story saying that:
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Actually, thinking about it, it must be the next series because all these are obviously in the can. |
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Originally Posted by afcbfan
I think it's the "I had no choice" line which is important. He certainly showed regret at destroying them, but he said he "had no choice". I think he did have a choice. Let the Daleks conquer Gallifrey and acquire the Timelords superior time travel technology and wipe out every civilisation before it's evolved, or make sure that they'll never conquer Gallifrey by destroying it in space and time. |
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Hmm, Do we have an Episode 12 plot synopsis anywhere? Because this is an Episode 12 rumour that I posted on the 15th April...
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Actually, thinking about it, it must be the next series because all these are obviously in the can. A lot of the bad wolf speculation seems to say precisely that. |
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Originally Posted by andyk481
surely though both the doctor and the high council would have known this situation was likeliy to arise and yet he chose to allow the dalek race to evolve. i just find it interesting that when he genuinely did have a choice in genesis he chose to allow the dalek race to survive despite the millions (billions?) of deaths which would follow?
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Did the doctor destroy skaro at the end of
*remembrance of the daleks* ? |
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Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod
In "Genesis" The Doctor is told he's been sent back because they (the Time Lords) have foreseen a time when the Daleks become the dominant force in the Universe. I've always got the impression, rightly or wrongly, that he regretted not touching those wires when he had the chance. Maybe this time he wasn't going to make the same "mistake" again but the price he paid for indecision first time was taking his own race out along with the Daleks this - I dunno about you, but that'd keep me awake at nights...
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Did the doctor destroy skaro at the end of
*remembrance of the daleks* ? |
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Did the doctor destroy skaro at the end of
*remembrance of the daleks* ? ...using logic for a moment on the rest of the series, if RTD had control over the arc that binds this series together then the fact he's apparently written all remaining episodes
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i am sure i have not heard the word "gallifrey" used even once in this series..
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