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25 | 3.51% |
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16 | 2.25% |
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26 | 3.65% |
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62 | 8.71% |
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168 | 23.60% |
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415 | 58.29% |
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Unless of course that is part of his cover. John has claimed that he is an
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Ultimately, I have to agree with you on this one John. I think we were closer to the truth yesterday that the Face is behind this, providing the finance, with Geocomtex providing the technology.
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Yes - he's the 'rogue housemate' character they throw in towards the end of the series. In that sense, he would be an
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i have to say on balance i think it would be a bit much to bring in so much tradition and history at this stage, and balance it with the new fans of the show... shame though!
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well, aside from the eye of harmony thing,
Omega and Rassilon were reponsible for creating the Eye of Harmony, along with a third person which was rumoured to be the Doctor (I seem to remember reading it was confirmed it was the Doctor at a later point, but not sure). Anyway, the Eye was created from a star from a solar system near to Gallifrey that had no planets circling it. Using the RSM/hand of Omega, Omega exploded the star, sending it supernova. At that point, Rasillon surrounded the supernova with the containment field he'd built, keeping the star perpetually at the point it first went nova. The two of them then propelled the contained supernova into an orbit near Gallifrey, providing the timelords with the means and the power to time travel. All in a day's work, really. (What did you do today dear? Oh, nothing much - sent a star supernova, the same old stuff ![]() The Doctor's involvement was put down as being to point out an error in the calculations that would have made the whole thing a huge catastrophe. So it's quite possible, I suppose, that the Eye could still be intact, even though the planet is destroyed. |
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OK, thinking about this logically (and it was a heck of a number of years ago when I came across this stuff so bear with me.)
Omega and Rassilon were reponsible for creating the Eye of Harmony, along with a third person which was rumoured to be the Doctor (I seem to remember reading it was confirmed it was the Doctor at a later point, but not sure). Anyway, the Eye was created from a star from a solar system near to Gallifrey that had no planets circling it. Using the RSM/hand of Omega, Omega exploded the star, sending it supernova. At that point, Rasillon surrounded the supernova with the containment field he'd built, keeping the star perpetually at the point it first went nova. The two of them then propelled the contained supernova into an orbit near Gallifrey, providing the timelords with the means and the power to time travel. All in a day's work, really. ![]() The Doctor's involvement was put down as being to point out an error in the calculations that would have made the whole thing a huge catastrophe. So it's quite possible, I suppose, that the Eye could still be intact, even though the planet is destroyed. |
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Isn't the Eye Of Harmony actually on Gallifrey in the Panopticon?
But if not, then this story is seriously f*cked ![]() Let me see if I can dig out some old stuff. |
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Again, I always thought that was a link to the actual thing.
But if not, then this story is seriously f*cked ![]() Looks like I will have to watch it again over the weekend! Off to see the new Star Wars film so will catch you all later on. Look forward to seeing how the discussion has developed on my return. ![]() *edit: if anyone else can shed light on the above then let us know. |
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Again, I always thought that was a link to the actual thing.
But if not, then this story is seriously f*cked ![]() |
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The eye of harmony was under the panopticon in "Deadly Assassin" that's where the Master managed to acquire enough radiation to live on until "Keeper"
Right gotta dash so hope you manage to resolve this one. Someone let me know if they can. Cheers.
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The eye of harmony was under the panopticon in "Deadly Assassin" that's where the Master managed to acquire enough radiation to live on until "Keeper"
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Rumours are floating about that Billie has quit and is only in a few season 2 episodes, anyone confirm or deny this? According to the rumours it was in dreamwatch magazine, I dont buy it or know of a website so don't know whats happening, hope its not true. Slight update, this is probably old news: Quote:
"Billie Piper's agent has confirmed exclusively to Dreamwatch Magazine that the actress will be leaving Doctor Who during the second season. “She's not doing the full season,” the agent told Dreamwatch's Rod Edgar. Indications are that Piper will likely appear in between three and seven episodes of season two of Doctor Who. In departing the show she'll be following lead Christopher Eccleston, leaving 10th Doctor David Tennant to find himself a new companion." http://www.gallifreyone.com/newstv.p...yplZZEJGXglMjl
-- Brian J. Robb, Managing Editor of Titan Magazines. Quoted from Outpost Gallifrey. |
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The eye of harmony was under the panopticon in "Deadly Assassin" that's where the Master managed to acquire enough radiation to live on until "Keeper"
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Here's a small passage: "Omega piloted a ship into the nova-star, and activated the stellar manipulator. The device functioned perfectly, and the star exploded with an echo seen from the other side of the Galaxy. However, either the stellar manipulator was accidentally re-activated by Omega, or the fabric of space-time was simply under far too great a stress, as without warning the supernova collapsed into a black-hole. Omega was sucked in, and was thought to be gone forever. This was a great shock for the Gallifreyians, and some called for the end of these time-travel experiments. However, the project had been a partial success -- Rassilon had developed technology capable of harnessing the energy of the black-hole. He had also developed a personal force-field known as the Sash, which would protect him against any great energy source, including that of a black-hole. The Sash worked on the principle of quantum force-fields, which will not be explained here. Rassilon himself then piloted a craft into the black-hole, protected by the Sash, and he managed to capture the black-hole and return." You see, in the version I read, they never went on to explain how/why the Eye was moved. I always took the 'Eye' under the Panopticon to mean a link to it - although I'm not saying it isn't the actual article. So now we have an interesting problem: If the Eye is on Gallifrey itself, how does the Tardis still function if Gallifrey is destroyed? Either a) Gallifrey is not destroyed or b) The Eye on Gallifrey was simply a link to the actual article. c) RTD has got rid of that bit of 'lore' completely as it is too damn confusing for the new audience. I'll go with number three, although I still think that Gallifrey may not be destroyed if this whole series has been the Doctor and Rose partaking in a reality tv show (which I think they have.) |
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We really should restrict starting threads for the next episode till at least the same day the episode airs if not after it like other shows.
It's their call, as long as the mods are okay about it. I don't think it's a bad thing myself, if somebody wanted to. Because then people can post subject matter which is specific to that episode without it getting mixed up in this thread. It doesn't bother me one way or another. If somebody starts the next episode thread early I'm not going to complain. I actually find it amusing that somebody started a thread for the next episode so early.
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I hate to say it but I'm not sure there is a "we" is there? If someone wants to start a thread surely that's up to them - if we start getting into a "them" and "us" then the fun rapidly disappears and it becomes a member's club...thread and let thread...gotta be the best way...in my humble old...
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I agree with you John.
"We" should keep relaxed about such things.It doesn't really matter. |
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I agree with you John.
"We" should keep relaxed about such things.It doesn't really matter.
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Point taken, I just noticed a huge amount of Dr Who threads and realised people who are not interested have to wade through them all to find something interesting. I'm a bit out of the loop though, do I take it that it was a no to a seperate Sci-Fi forum?
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Point taken, I just noticed a huge amount of Dr Who threads and realised people who are not interested have to wade through them all to find something interesting. I'm a bit out of the loop though, do I take it that it was a no to a seperate Sci-Fi forum?
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Night.
See you tommorrow if you're on here. Um.. how long have I got Ashley? (And so the Corrieverse ended). Glad I managed to spark off a healthy discussion last night, though I've been out tonight as a useful member of the community (don't laugh), and am thus lacking in brainpower to contribute further. But you're (all) right - if it's done well, it'll be good. Here's hoping. Apparently, the bloke in the next instalment is a bit of a singer. Or that could be the Belgian entry... must remember to switch TV on earlier tomorrow night Gary |
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Thanks Andy - that's very interesting, and essentially what I'd read, albeit many years ago.
Here's a small passage: "Omega piloted a ship into the nova-star, and activated the stellar manipulator. The device functioned perfectly, and the star exploded with an echo seen from the other side of the Galaxy. However, either the stellar manipulator was accidentally re-activated by Omega, or the fabric of space-time was simply under far too great a stress, as without warning the supernova collapsed into a black-hole. Omega was sucked in, and was thought to be gone forever. This was a great shock for the Gallifreyians, and some called for the end of these time-travel experiments. However, the project had been a partial success -- Rassilon had developed technology capable of harnessing the energy of the black-hole. He had also developed a personal force-field known as the Sash, which would protect him against any great energy source, including that of a black-hole. The Sash worked on the principle of quantum force-fields, which will not be explained here. Rassilon himself then piloted a craft into the black-hole, protected by the Sash, and he managed to capture the black-hole and return." You see, in the version I read, they never went on to explain how/why the Eye was moved. I always took the 'Eye' under the Panopticon to mean a link to it - although I'm not saying it isn't the actual article. So now we have an interesting problem: If the Eye is on Gallifrey itself, how does the Tardis still function if Gallifrey is destroyed? Either a) Gallifrey is not destroyed or b) The Eye on Gallifrey was simply a link to the actual article. c) RTD has got rid of that bit of 'lore' completely as it is too damn confusing for the new audience. I'll go with number three, although I still think that Gallifrey may not be destroyed if this whole series has been the Doctor and Rose partaking in a reality tv show (which I think they have.) |
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Rumours are floating about that Billie has quit and is only in a few season 2 episodes, anyone confirm or deny this? According to the rumours it was in dreamwatch magazine, I dont buy it or know of a website so don't know whats happening, hope its not true.
Slight update, this is probably old news: http://www.gallifreyone.com/newstv.p...yplZZEJGXglMjl
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I hate to say it but I'm not sure there is a "we" is there? If someone wants to start a thread surely that's up to them - if we start getting into a "them" and "us" then the fun rapidly disappears and it becomes a member's club...thread and let thread...gotta be the best way...in my humble old...
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Come on John, it wouldn't be England if it wasn't over-regulated to the point of death.
You can't just up and start a new thread without getting planning permission, signed in triplicate by an officer of ThreadCOM, the approved government agency in charge of new threads. I thought everybody new that?
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