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Why can't anyone pronounce Grainne's name correctly
It's amusing but irritating to hear everyone on the apprentice including the voiceover mispronouncing Grainne's name. Amazing this wasn't corrected at the post production stage.
For the record it's pronounced Graw nya Not so difficult really https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKeDxZe8mJw |
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Because most English people don't have a clue how the name is pronounced, to me it looks like it should be 'Grain'.
My kids both went to Catholic schools in North London which had many children from Irish backgrounds. Back in my day the boys would have been called Mick or Patrick, and the girls Catherine or Mary. I was completely lost when reading their school newsletters - Aine, Aoife, Caoimhe, Siobhan, Ruaraidh, Saoirse, Niamh etc. |
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Lazy production standards though that they never thought to ask her how she pronounces it. Another name that puzzles me is Gallagher pronunced Gallaher in Ireland whereas the second g is pronounced in the UK Gallager. Its like Potayto Potaato I guess
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Lazy production standards though that they never thought to ask her how she pronounces it. Another name that puzzles me is Gallagher pronunced Gallaher in Ireland whereas the second g is pronounced in the UK Gallager. Its like Potayto Potaato I guess ![]() |
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Why can't Sugar pronounce 'resume' correctly?
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Maybe she hasn't bothered to correct them or she has but they can't so she has told then to pronounce it whichever way they want to. I have a Ghanaian first name but no one can pronounce it correctly so I just let them pronounce it in the least annoying way.
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Yeah obviously English people won't know how irish names are pronounced unless they're told
My sister told her midwife the phonetic spelling of her name and it was written in brackets after the name on her file
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Initially I thought her name was spelt 'Grannie'
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Thank goodness there are no Chinese people on. Nobody in the BBC (apart from the news woman who married a Chinese rock star and remarkably Hazel Irvine) can pronounce Chinese names at all.
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Yeah obviously English people won't know how irish names are pronounced unless they're told
My sister told her midwife the phonetic spelling of her name and it was written in brackets after the name on her file ![]() |
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Isn't your own name the phonetic or anglicised version of one of those I quoted above, Saoirse?
![]() Saoirse is pronounced seersha ![]() Poor non irish speakers trying to work these names out
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Pronunciation, spelling, grammar.
These are the three lost skills, if not arts. I worked in a technology department for some years and constantly shook my head at the contrast between intelligence and ability. |
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So how DO you pronounce GRAINNE then?
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So how DO you pronounce GRAINNE then?
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Because most English people don't have a clue how the name is pronounced, to me it looks like it should be 'Grain'.
My kids both went to Catholic schools in North London which had many children from Irish backgrounds. Back in my day the boys would have been called Mick or Patrick, and the girls Catherine or Mary. I was completely lost when reading their school newsletters - Aine, Aoife, Caoimhe, Siobhan, Ruaraidh, Saoirse, Niamh etc. Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette. Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........ Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler? Quote:
It's pronounced Grawnyah
Why spell it like Grainne then? ![]() If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......' Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt! |
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[quote=Jane_Lee3;84386457]How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^
Aine, Aoife, Caoimhe, Siobhan, Ruaraidh, Saoirse, Niamh etc. QUOTE] Awnya Eefa Kweeva Shivawn Ruuri Seersha Nieve I think Irish language derived names have become more popular here in tandem with the growth in Irish language schools. Agree though difficult to pronounce for non natives |
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^
Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette. Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........ Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler? Thank you. Why spell it like Grainne then? ![]() If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......' Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt! ![]() ![]() You're right though. When the Irish language was formulated thousands of yeas ago they should have taken into account jumped up forum members who may struggle with their pronunciations
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My cousin is called Aoife and now just laughs at the puzzled look on people's faces when they try to pronounce her name, (or they just say err, Mrs ......)!
By the way it's pronounced eefer |
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My cousin is called Aoife and now just laughs at the puzzled look on people's faces when they try to pronounce her name, (or they just say err, Mrs ......)!
By the way it's pronounced eefer |
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No it's not. No r sound at the end. It's ee-fa.
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^
Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette. Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........ Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler? Thank you. Why spell it like Grainne then? ![]() If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......' Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt! The rest of your post is just mind boggling in its ignorance |
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^
Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette. Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........ Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler? Thank you. Why spell it like Grainne then? ![]() If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......' Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt! Chillax 😏 I've had to pronounce my surname continuously throughout my life which hasn't bothered me too much really. The only annoying thing is the latest trend for changing forenames for no reason, so what could've been a Y is now IE for some, which imo is complete f@*!wittery so now I have to spell my forename too. I like different names regardless of how easy they are to pronounce or not. ☘️ |
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Is this post actually for real?
![]() ![]() You're right though. When the Irish language was formulated thousands of yeas ago they should have taken into account jumped up forum members who may struggle with their pronunciations ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I just call her groin. Makes it easier
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I hope granola goes far
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