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Old 28-10-2016, 21:09
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It's amusing but irritating to hear everyone on the apprentice including the voiceover mispronouncing Grainne's name. Amazing this wasn't corrected at the post production stage.

For the record it's pronounced

Graw nya

Not so difficult really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKeDxZe8mJw
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Old 28-10-2016, 21:46
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Because most English people don't have a clue how the name is pronounced, to me it looks like it should be 'Grain'.

My kids both went to Catholic schools in North London which had many children from Irish backgrounds. Back in my day the boys would have been called Mick or Patrick, and the girls Catherine or Mary. I was completely lost when reading their school newsletters - Aine, Aoife, Caoimhe, Siobhan, Ruaraidh, Saoirse, Niamh etc.
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Old 28-10-2016, 22:02
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Lazy production standards though that they never thought to ask her how she pronounces it.

Another name that puzzles me is Gallagher pronunced Gallaher in Ireland whereas the second g is pronounced in the UK Gallager.
Its like Potayto Potaato I guess
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Old 28-10-2016, 22:18
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Lazy production standards though that they never thought to ask her how she pronounces it.

Another name that puzzles me is Gallagher pronunced Gallaher in Ireland whereas the second g is pronounced in the UK Gallager.
Its like Potayto Potaato I guess
But like the Irish, I don't think that most of us would pronounce the g in Callaghan.
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Old 29-10-2016, 10:21
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Why can't Sugar pronounce 'resume' correctly?
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Old 29-10-2016, 12:22
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Maybe she hasn't bothered to correct them or she has but they can't so she has told then to pronounce it whichever way they want to. I have a Ghanaian first name but no one can pronounce it correctly so I just let them pronounce it in the least annoying way.
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Old 29-10-2016, 12:57
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Yeah obviously English people won't know how irish names are pronounced unless they're told

My sister told her midwife the phonetic spelling of her name and it was written in brackets after the name on her file
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Old 29-10-2016, 13:13
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Initially I thought her name was spelt 'Grannie'
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Old 29-10-2016, 14:08
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Thank goodness there are no Chinese people on. Nobody in the BBC (apart from the news woman who married a Chinese rock star and remarkably Hazel Irvine) can pronounce Chinese names at all.
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Old 29-10-2016, 15:16
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Yeah obviously English people won't know how irish names are pronounced unless they're told

My sister told her midwife the phonetic spelling of her name and it was written in brackets after the name on her file
Isn't your own name the phonetic or anglicised version of one of those I quoted above, Saoirse?
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Old 29-10-2016, 15:43
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Isn't your own name the phonetic or anglicised version of one of those I quoted above, Saoirse?
No my name is irish but it's pronounced Circa

Saoirse is pronounced seersha

Poor non irish speakers trying to work these names out
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Old 29-10-2016, 16:09
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Pronunciation, spelling, grammar.
These are the three lost skills, if not arts.
I worked in a technology department for some years and constantly shook my head at the contrast between intelligence and ability.
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Old 29-10-2016, 18:52
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So how DO you pronounce GRAINNE then?
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Old 29-10-2016, 19:18
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So how DO you pronounce GRAINNE then?
It's pronounced Grawnyah
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Old 29-10-2016, 20:02
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Because most English people don't have a clue how the name is pronounced, to me it looks like it should be 'Grain'.

My kids both went to Catholic schools in North London which had many children from Irish backgrounds. Back in my day the boys would have been called Mick or Patrick, and the girls Catherine or Mary. I was completely lost when reading their school newsletters - Aine, Aoife, Caoimhe, Siobhan, Ruaraidh, Saoirse, Niamh etc.
How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^

Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette.

Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........

Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler?

It's pronounced Grawnyah
Thank you.

Why spell it like Grainne then?

If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......'

Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt!
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Old 29-10-2016, 22:06
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[quote=Jane_Lee3;84386457]How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^
Aine, Aoife, Caoimhe, Siobhan, Ruaraidh, Saoirse, Niamh etc.
QUOTE]

Awnya
Eefa
Kweeva
Shivawn
Ruuri
Seersha
Nieve

I think Irish language derived names have become more popular here in tandem with the growth in Irish language schools.
Agree though difficult to pronounce for non natives
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Old 29-10-2016, 23:22
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^

Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette.

Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........

Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler?



Thank you.

Why spell it like Grainne then?

If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......'

Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt!
Is this post actually for real?

You're right though. When the Irish language was formulated thousands of yeas ago they should have taken into account jumped up forum members who may struggle with their pronunciations
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Old 29-10-2016, 23:30
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My cousin is called Aoife and now just laughs at the puzzled look on people's faces when they try to pronounce her name, (or they just say err, Mrs ......)!

By the way it's pronounced eefer
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Old 29-10-2016, 23:34
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My cousin is called Aoife and now just laughs at the puzzled look on people's faces when they try to pronounce her name, (or they just say err, Mrs ......)!

By the way it's pronounced eefer
No it's not. No r sound at the end. It's ee-fa.
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Old 29-10-2016, 23:41
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No it's not. No r sound at the end. It's ee-fa.
Well that's the way she spells it to people, so we all followed her lead. She tried ee-fa and then subsequently got called ee-FA with the emphasis being shouted out on the FA, so she couldn't win. She says that she's past caring now though, which is a shame, as it is a lovely name.
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Old 30-10-2016, 06:53
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^

Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette.

Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........

Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler?



Thank you.

Why spell it like Grainne then?

If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......'

Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt!
Because that's the Irish spelling.

The rest of your post is just mind boggling in its ignorance
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Old 30-10-2016, 08:26
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^

Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette.

Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........

Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler?



Thank you.

Why spell it like Grainne then?

If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......'

Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt!


Chillax 😏 I've had to pronounce my surname continuously throughout my life which hasn't bothered me too much really. The only annoying thing is the latest trend for changing forenames for no reason, so what could've been a Y is now IE for some, which imo is complete f@*!wittery so now I have to spell my forename too. I like different names regardless of how easy they are to pronounce or not. ☘️
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:23
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Is this post actually for real?

You're right though. When the Irish language was formulated thousands of yeas ago they should have taken into account jumped up forum members who may struggle with their pronunciations
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Old 30-10-2016, 13:38
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I just call her groin. Makes it easier
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Old 31-10-2016, 08:19
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I hope granola goes far
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