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Old 31-10-2016, 10:08
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Yes, I would have pronounced the name "Grain!"

At a very quick glance it does certainly look like the word "Grannie!"
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Old 02-11-2016, 19:54
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No my name is irish but it's pronounced Circa

Saoirse is pronounced seersha

Poor non irish speakers trying to work these names out
You have a lovely name Sorcha - how ever it is pronounced !

My name only has four letters as I have said before - and people pronounce it in three different ways.

It doesn't bother me - especially if they are giving me money !
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Old 02-11-2016, 21:18
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You have a lovely name Sorcha - how ever it is pronounced !

My name only has four letters as I have said before - and people pronounce it in three different ways.

It doesn't bother me - especially if they are giving me money !
Thanks Cats_Eyes and I think that name is lovely too
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Old 03-11-2016, 22:24
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You have a lovely name Sorcha - how ever it is pronounced !

My name only has four letters as I have said before - and people pronounce it in three different ways.

It doesn't bother me - especially if they are giving me money !
I wonder if we share a name, is it Welsh?
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:59
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why are you bothered about it?
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:11
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This thread has taught me so much
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:07
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Thanks Cats_Eyes and I think that name is lovely too
Thanks Sorcha but it's just a user name - by actually name is a bit boring - but people still get it wrong !

In addition my grandmother choice my name - she told my mother " because they a can't shorten it "

But they can - and they do.

So with only four letters people people pronounce in three different ways - plus a nickname hate ! ( I don't like nicknames )
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:37
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I wonder if we share a name, is it Welsh?

Not that I am aware of- but that set me off so I put a search on Google and found all sorts of Clog Iron !

It's a Celtic name and used since the 6th century ( seems like it at times ! )

Originally a Saint's name ( that's about right ) but also noble,fair, and handsome ( but I think only my mother might think that is about right )
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Old 04-11-2016, 13:39
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How the F do you pronounce THOSE 3 (bolded?) ^^^

Why do they have such bizarre and hard to pronounce Irish names now? As you said, back in the day, (pre 1980s,) boys would have names like Mick, Patrick, or Eamon, and girls would have names like Mary, Elizabeth, or Colette.

Many famous Irish people born before the 1980s have normal names. Think Nolans....Linda, Maureen, Coleen, Bernadette, and Anne... And the Corrs; Andrea, Sharon, Caroline, and Jim! Then there's Terry Wogan, Eamon Andrews, Gloria Hunniford, Christine Bleakley, Colin Farrell, Kenneth Brannagh, Liam Neeson, Paul Hewson (Bono!) Jonathan Rees Myers, Richard Harris, Aiden Gillan, Maureen O'Hara, James Nesbitt, Dylan Moran, Brenda Fricker, Graham Norton, Dave Allen, Bob Geldof, Gabriel Byrne, Louis Walsh.....I could go on for ages........

Are these new 'hard to pronounce' Irish names really old pre 20th century names or something? Or are they the Irish equivalent of Tiffany, Destiny, Riley, and Tyler?



Thank you.

Why spell it like Grainne then?

If people want to give their kids hard to pronounce and hard to spell names, or just plain stupid names, then fine........... But for one thing, don't get all pissy and annoyed when NO-ONE spells it or pronounces it correctly. And secondly, do you not realise what a life of misery your offspring has ahead of them with a name like Ruaraidh, Eoghan, Caoimhe, Tadgh, or Chelseigh, Sigfrieyde, Quvenzhané, Nikeetah, Joaquin, Deekan,Jayceeleigh, etc etc.......with people constantly asking them to spell their name every single day of their lives, and having to constantly correct people who pronounce or write their name 'incorrectly......'

Irish names are fine, and many are quite nice, like Siobhan, Sorcha, Maeve, Niall, Conor, Aiden, Sinead etc. But some are just spelt so outrageously and don't sound anything like they're spelt!


Hard not to be horrified by the cultural ignorance here. Would you say the same thing about French or German or Chinese??? They are Irish names, not English. They obey the rules of the Irish language.

Also maybe Irish people had "normal" names before the 80s because they had to use the anglicised versions of their Irish names to get anywhere, particularly in the entertainment industry in the UK. Regional names were about as popular as regional accents.

On the subject of getting Grainne's name right, it drives me nuts that they can't be bothered to pronounce it properly.
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Old 04-11-2016, 13:55
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I think she's trying to be different and wants it pronounced that way. Absolutely everyone is calling her "Grun-ya". I wonder if because she's from the North she might want it pronounced differently from the old Gaelic way.

Like I said everyone is saying "Grun-Ya" so they can't all be wrong.
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Old 04-11-2016, 14:02
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Hard not to be horrified by the cultural ignorance here. Would you say the same thing about French or German or Chinese??? They are Irish names, not English. They obey the rules of the Irish language.

Also maybe Irish people had "normal" names before the 80s because they had to use the anglicised versions of their Irish names to get anywhere, particularly in the entertainment industry in the UK. Regional names were about as popular as regional accents.

On the subject of getting Grainne's name right, it drives me nuts that they can't be bothered to pronounce it properly.
A double whammy -- the decreasing influence of the Catholic church in Ireland leading to a decline in biblical names, and the teaching of the Irish language in Irish schools increasing the popularity of Gaelic names.
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Old 05-11-2016, 16:55
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Thanks Sorcha but it's just a user name - by actually name is a bit boring - but people still get it wrong !

In addition my grandmother choice my name - she told my mother " because they a can't shorten it "

But they can - and they do.

So with only four letters people people pronounce in three different ways - plus a nickname hate ! ( I don't like nicknames )
Bib I was only trying to joke but it fell flat

I'm sure your real name is lovely.
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Old 05-11-2016, 17:42
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I think she's trying to be different and wants it pronounced that way. Absolutely everyone is calling her "Grun-ya". I wonder if because she's from the North she might want it pronounced differently from the old Gaelic way.

Like I said everyone is saying "Grun-Ya" so they can't all be wrong.
Maybe it's pronounced that way in the Ulster dialect?
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Old 05-11-2016, 18:39
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Mispronunciations are bound to happen with unconventional non-WASP-y names. I would equally struggle with many Welsh words, like place names.

It's not ignorance. I've seen many names that I'm unsure how to pronounce. You make your best guess and wait to be corrected if necessary. Has Grainne said that they are pronouncing it wrong?
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Old 05-11-2016, 19:13
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Mispronunciations bound to happen with unconventional non-WASP-y names. I would equally struggle with many Welsh words, like place names.

It's not ignorance. I've seen many names that I'm unsure how to pronounce. You make your best guess and wait to be corrected if necessary. Has Grainne said that they are pronouncing it wrong?
I agree with all of this and mispronunciations are common with even simple names.

I am willing to bet that everyone on this forum has had their name mispronounced over the years - and not corrected them.

Because it really doesn't matter does it ?
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Old 05-11-2016, 21:41
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Bib I was only trying to joke but it fell flat

I'm sure your real name is lovely.
Yes I have always been a bit slow on the uptake Sorcha I am afraid.

For years I thought that the IQ was something to do with the Secret Services.
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Old 10-11-2016, 16:16
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For what it's worth, I knew quite a few Grainnes over the years when I lived in Northern Ireland and they all pronounced it Grun-ya. Grawn-ya is a new one on me! So it's the Ulster pronunciation I would say.

I think the 'narrator' still says it wrong though? I may be remembering incorrectly as I didn't watch the episode last week so basing this on 2 weeks ago..
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Old 14-11-2016, 01:56
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Its not rocket science! When someone tells you their name, you copy how they say it and learn it. Rude to keep getting it wrong!

At the least they could offer to make up a shorter version for her as an affectionate nickname if they're having bother saying it!
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