Is Robbie's music relevant anymore? Is his solo career over?
Is Robbie Williams relevant?
Originally Posted by Mint-Opinion:
“Is Robbie's music relevant anymore? Is his solo career over?”
“Is Robbie's music relevant anymore? Is his solo career over?”
I'd say 'no' and 'no'.
Was he ever relevant? depends what you mean by solo career...many seem to base that purely on chart position on this forum.
Relevant to who and in what way?
I'm not a big fan but then my favourite bands are The Velvet Underground, Pixies, Neil Young, The Doors, The Strokes, The Ramones and stuff like that. I doubt I was ever the intended audience.
To those who move from the latest trend to another then he probably isn't. To those who grew up with his music and loved it and him then he probably is. To me he's a bog standard pop star like most of the rest who is a more interesting character than the music he makes. Who's right? No-one, it's opinion and depends what you mean by the question.
No, yes, or he never was. Take your pick.
I'm not a big fan but then my favourite bands are The Velvet Underground, Pixies, Neil Young, The Doors, The Strokes, The Ramones and stuff like that. I doubt I was ever the intended audience.
To those who move from the latest trend to another then he probably isn't. To those who grew up with his music and loved it and him then he probably is. To me he's a bog standard pop star like most of the rest who is a more interesting character than the music he makes. Who's right? No-one, it's opinion and depends what you mean by the question.
No, yes, or he never was. Take your pick.
Does Robbie Williams have any interest in being relevant these days anyway? I think those days are in the past for him and he''s far happier being outside of the public eye as a husband and father.
If he released a new single/album, it would still do pretty well though I can't imagine him ever hitting the heights that he was 10/15/20 years ago. If he announced a Greatest Hits gig at The O2 tomorrow, it would sell out.
If he released a new single/album, it would still do pretty well though I can't imagine him ever hitting the heights that he was 10/15/20 years ago. If he announced a Greatest Hits gig at The O2 tomorrow, it would sell out.
His new album is almost certainly guaranteed to be #1 with large sales and a huge tour. So erm, no clearly his solo career is not over.
Single-wise, however, he probably won't be bothering the charts again that frequently. His target audience are most definitely not the streaming generation.
Single-wise, however, he probably won't be bothering the charts again that frequently. His target audience are most definitely not the streaming generation.
Here is Robbie doing some of the new tracks off the album. 
- https://youtu.be/LN3rTedzNoQ
- https://youtu.be/LN3rTedzNoQ
In terms of chart success, I don't think he will have any more #1 singles now that streaming is such a dominant force.
Unless Robbie releases a fantastic song that resonates with the public. Songs like Party Like A Russian won't do anything to help his chances there. They're too quirky for the general public and radio stations won't play these type of songs.
However, I can definitely see Robbie's album going to #1. It might not sell bucketloads compared to his first few albums but he's pretty much an albums artist now.
Unless Robbie releases a fantastic song that resonates with the public. Songs like Party Like A Russian won't do anything to help his chances there. They're too quirky for the general public and radio stations won't play these type of songs.
However, I can definitely see Robbie's album going to #1. It might not sell bucketloads compared to his first few albums but he's pretty much an albums artist now.
He's relevant to 40-50 year old women who pine after their heyday following Take That and go to all his concerts to throw their underwear on the stage for "our Wobbie!!".
Slightly hyperbolic assessment I admit but it seems mostly true.
Frankly I find the man immensely irritating and never ever got the appeal even when I think back to my youth in the 90s. He can't sing live, he talk sings most of the songs or indeed just gets the audience to fill in most of the lines. Now some have then said "oh but that makes him such a good performer"...ahem, Freddie Mercury was a star live performer, he let the audience sing parts of the song, but man could he actually sing.
Secondly the guy dances, as he even has freely admitted himself, like a drunk dad at a wedding.
Finally, and probably not entirely his fault, the media (mostly ITV to be fair) then makes the assumption the whole world lives "Our CHEEKY CHAPPY ROBBIE". No, we don't.
Slightly hyperbolic assessment I admit but it seems mostly true.
Frankly I find the man immensely irritating and never ever got the appeal even when I think back to my youth in the 90s. He can't sing live, he talk sings most of the songs or indeed just gets the audience to fill in most of the lines. Now some have then said "oh but that makes him such a good performer"...ahem, Freddie Mercury was a star live performer, he let the audience sing parts of the song, but man could he actually sing.
Secondly the guy dances, as he even has freely admitted himself, like a drunk dad at a wedding.
Finally, and probably not entirely his fault, the media (mostly ITV to be fair) then makes the assumption the whole world lives "Our CHEEKY CHAPPY ROBBIE". No, we don't.
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“However, I can definitely see Robbie's album going to #1. It might not sell bucketloads compared to his first few albums but he's pretty much an albums artist now.”
“However, I can definitely see Robbie's album going to #1. It might not sell bucketloads compared to his first few albums but he's pretty much an albums artist now.”
Lots on forums are predicting Robbie for No.1 album but I can actually see either Elvis or Buble holding him off. Buble has a BBC1 special on Thursday night so a sales boost during Robbie's release week.
Originally Posted by Elvisfan4eva:
“Lots on forums are predicting Robbie for No.1 album but I can actually see either Elvis or Buble holding him off. Buble has a BBC1 special on Thursday night so a sales boost during Robbie's release week.”
“Lots on forums are predicting Robbie for No.1 album but I can actually see either Elvis or Buble holding him off. Buble has a BBC1 special on Thursday night so a sales boost during Robbie's release week.”
its possible but 1st week sales are usually 50% higher than 2nd or 3rd week sales although I know coming up to Xmas this isn't always the case. still think it will be a number one though.
Well it's gonna be better than the bloody Buble album, that's for sure.....
The Heavy Entertainment Show sounds more interesting to me than his last record, Take The Crown, which was easily the weakest thing he's ever done. Be A Boy was a decent song, and Candy of course...
but the rest of it was pretty subpar... The Losers video was fun though - https://youtu.be/bbYNnt9qz-U
What I like about Robbie is how he's an 'everyman' pop star and not putting himself up there as this 'cool' godlike figure, like plenty of others. It's all just a laugh, and he knows it. If I see him onstage or hear the music, there's just a warmth to it.
The Heavy Entertainment Show sounds more interesting to me than his last record, Take The Crown, which was easily the weakest thing he's ever done. Be A Boy was a decent song, and Candy of course...
but the rest of it was pretty subpar... The Losers video was fun though - https://youtu.be/bbYNnt9qz-UWhat I like about Robbie is how he's an 'everyman' pop star and not putting himself up there as this 'cool' godlike figure, like plenty of others. It's all just a laugh, and he knows it. If I see him onstage or hear the music, there's just a warmth to it.
Just pre-ordered the new album and sounds from the clips and tracks that we've already heard that he's back to his best! I didn't even buy his last album but have all his others.
Originally Posted by Elvisfan4eva:
“Just pre-ordered the new album and sounds from the clips and tracks that we've already heard that he's back to his best! I didn't even buy his last album but have all his others.”
“Just pre-ordered the new album and sounds from the clips and tracks that we've already heard that he's back to his best! I didn't even buy his last album but have all his others.”
Something that stands out from the clips is I Don't Want To Hurt You. It's different to anything he's done before, it's very Bowie-inspired.
