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Old 01-11-2016, 08:29
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On the grounds of:

The game's world governing body bans political, religious or commercial messages on shirts.
Well, I suppose it's fairly easy to come to such unfeeling decisions, when the country in which you are based spent the wars storing stolen money for murderers, while our men fought and died to preserve freedom.

We should tell them where to go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37832115
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:31
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I suppose they have no objections to the message that they were sending when many of their representatives were coining it in through dodgy handshakes?
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:59
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Just ignore them and pay the fine
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:59
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Here we go again.

No doubt the Poppy fascists will be out in force about it.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:04
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It's a charity , barcelona used to promote a charity Unicef on their shirts
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:11
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Just ignore them and pay the fine
Would you say the same if teams ignored rules about player eligibility etc?

Do we ignore some rules and take notice of others?
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:16
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Here we go again.

No doubt the Poppy fascists will be out in force about it.
As will those who also take issue with them.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:16
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If they wore armbands with poppies as a workaround a few years ago, surely just do that again?
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:28
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Does wearing the poppy fall into any of the categories mentioned ? It's certainly not religious. I don't see that it's political either. I thought the poppy these days has become a symbol of remembrance for all the war dead, not just the British.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:44
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Its not a new rule, so the media are mis-reporting by making out that FIFA have suddenly turned around and banned the wearing of poppies this year.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:17
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Does wearing the poppy fall into any of the categories mentioned ? It's certainly not religious. I don't see that it's political either. I thought the poppy these days has become a symbol of remembrance for all the war dead, not just the British.
I agree with you, it's a mark of respect remembering people who died in conflict. As you say, I dont see how its political as it isn't just about the British
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:32
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Its not a new rule, so the media are mis-reporting by making out that FIFA have suddenly turned around and banned the wearing of poppies this year.
It's probably because they want to mark their respect for the England v Scotland game.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:32
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If they wore armbands with poppies as a workaround a few years ago, surely just do that again?
Alas that won't be enough for The Sun and its media cohorts who turned this molehill into a mountain a few years ago and are singularly determined to do the same thing again this time round.

Have the first critical articles about James McClean started appearing yet?
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:34
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Here we go again, almost like clockwork, each and every year we always get stories like this cropping up.

It is just so tedious, wear them or don't wear them, it should be up to anyone to decide, FIFA or anyone else should have no jurisdiction over this.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:34
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Alas that won't be enough for The Sun and its media cohorts who turned this molehill into a mountain a few years ago and are singularly determined to do the same thing again this time round.

Have the first critical articles about James McClean started appearing yet?
Tbf his reaction was OTT and warranted criticism.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:35
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Have the first critical articles about James McClean started appearing yet?
There was an article about him in the online version of a Scottish paper at the weekend.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:53
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Fifa should have the ability to understand that the poppy is not political, although this is Fifa.

Our FA's should stand up for right here, and allow the wearing of the poppy.

Who actually is against it, and claims it to be political?
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:55
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Here we go again, almost like clockwork, each and every year we always get stories like this cropping up.

It is just so tedious, wear them or don't wear them, it should be up to anyone to decide, FIFA or anyone else should have no jurisdiction over this.
While common sense should hopefully prevail and they recognise it as something other than a political statement, this is something that falls slapbang in the middle of FIFA and/or UEFA's jurisdiction.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:56
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Tbf his reaction was OTT and warranted criticism.
But not, over and over again, year after year.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:25
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the poppy IS political, without question

but not wearing it is not a sign of disrespect
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:34
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the poppy IS political, without question

but not wearing it is not a sign of disrespect
Why???

I prefer the story behind it from the British Legion.

http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/reme...-of-the-poppy/

The poppy is NOT

A symbol of death or a sign of support for war
A reflection of politics or religion
Red to reflect the colour of blood
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:43
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While the majority of people in the UK don't view this as political there are others in the world who do.

FIFA is a worldwide organisation and has to be seen to be fair to all the countries who participate. If the UK nations were permitted to use a symbol like this it could open it up to other countries who may wish to commemorate groups or individuals that those in the UK may find objectionable.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:46
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I agree with FIFA that they shouldn't have them on shirts

It's alright for us to say 'this is our symbol, so of course it's OK' but what if some Islamist country decides to put a symbol remembering their glorious dead suicide bombers or sometime in a different future the Irish Republic decides to have a symbol remembering the IRA Volunteers who gave their lives for a United Ireland

It's a slippery slope to base on argument on 'ours is alright because we're British but those foreigners should be banned from doing it'
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:00
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While the majority of people in the UK don't view this as political there are others in the world who do.

FIFA is a worldwide organisation and has to be seen to be fair to all the countries who participate. If the UK nations were permitted to use a symbol like this it could open it up to other countries who may wish to commemorate groups or individuals that those in the UK may find objectionable.
just because some do not see it as political, others do!

for similar reasons i would object to a cross on the shirt etc etc

lets just play football eh
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:00
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I agree with FIFA that they shouldn't have them on shirts

It's alright for us to say 'this is our symbol, so of course it's OK' but what if some Islamist country decides to put a symbol remembering their glorious dead suicide bombers or sometime in a different future the Irish Republic decides to have a symbol remembering the IRA Volunteers who gave their lives for a United Ireland

It's a slippery slope to base on argument on 'ours is alright because we're British but those foreigners should be banned from doing it'
They would be political symbols in those cases.
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