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Fifa have made an incorrect interpretation of their rules, based on the whingers, such as you, because they have no love for England either.
Your pretence that Fifa are a noble organisation imposing fair play across the globe is a joke. This is Fifa. Have you noticed what they've done over the years? The pathetic fines reflect the non importance of it, but it makes a point for them, and they get support from those who complain about everything English. I do not see Fifa as a noble organisation, i see it as corrupt as i have posted here many times. You are using a strawman fallacy in your above post. "because they have no love for england" Your statement just seems to make you a conspiracy theorist. Very odd. |
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Its not incorrect, the poppy is a political symbol. Fifa are applying their rules perfectly and they are within their rights to do so.
I do not see Fifa as a noble organisation, i see it as corrupt as i have posted here many times. You are using a strawman fallacy in your above post. "because they have no love for england" Your statement just seems to make you a conspiracy theorist. Very odd. This fine is at such a low level that it shows it isn't a serious matter, and the ridiculous inclusion of fining us for fans wearing the poppy tells us everything. Would you also ban people wearing poppies from entering a stadium? |
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They have made it clear in the past what they think of us. Nothing to do with conspiracies.
This fine is at such a low level that it shows it isn't a serious matter, and the ridiculous inclusion of fining us for fans wearing the poppy tells us everything. Would you also ban people wearing poppies from entering a stadium? "They have made it clear in the past what they think of us. Nothing to do with conspiracies." Prove it. What sources have you for stating that the current people at FIFA specifically have it in for England? |
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You are now changing the argument to something different, lets stick with the topic shall we and your bias?
"They have made it clear in the past what they think of us. Nothing to do with conspiracies." Prove it. What sources have you for stating that the current people at FIFA specifically have it in for England? Our media, and FA have made more noise than anyone else, and they have long memories. The fiasco over the Russia award of the world cup is all you need to look at. |
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You can find plenty of evidence over the last few years if you are interested. You seem to be suggesting the current people are all different, but that's not true. They are bent, and have been for years. You even admit they are corrupt in a post at the time of this page.
Our media, and FA have made more noise than anyone else, and they have long memories. The fiasco over the Russia award of the world cup is all you need to look at. I agree, fifa are corrupt. That has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. Russia winning the world cup is second only to Qatar winning it. Both were terribly corrupt decisions. England were complicit in this, we paid out millions to get the world cup but bribed the wrong people. We cannot cry over it now. However i asked you where they specifically have singled out England in the past, where they "have it in for them". YOU are the one suggesting this, all i'm asking for is for you to prove it. A link will be fine. They are not picking on England because they hate us, its because we broke the rules. We did break the rules. |
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England were complicit in this, we paid out millions to get the world cup but bribed the wrong people. We cannot cry over it now.
Indeed, the English FA tried to buy the vote of the Thai FA then went in a strop when they voted for another country. |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...id-defeat.html
Indeed, the English FA tried to buy the vote of the Thai FA then went in a strop when they voted for another country. We played the game, openly, and got screwed over, whilst two extremely dodgy bids got the award. |
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Again a strawman.
I agree, fifa are corrupt. That has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. Russia winning the world cup is second only to Qatar winning it. Both were terribly corrupt decisions. England were complicit in this, we paid out millions to get the world cup but bribed the wrong people. We cannot cry over it now. However i asked you where they specifically have singled out England in the past, where they "have it in for them". YOU are the one suggesting this, all i'm asking for is for you to prove it. A link will be fine. They are not picking on England because they hate us, its because we broke the rules. We did break the rules. |
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I gave you a link to what the official definition of the poppy is, but you ignore that, so why give other links. There is plenty of history between us and Fifa, and if you want to ignore it, you will.
However the definition of what a poppy stands for internationally is not found on the British legion website. |
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But that's not true, I followed the link and read it.
However the definition of what a poppy stands for internationally is not found on the British legion website. http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/reme...-of-the-poppy/ Quote:
The poppy is This is what it has stood for for 100 years, and you, and others who want to, cant change that, and neither can Fifa.A symbol of Remembrance and hope Worn by millions of people Red because of the natural colour of field poppies; The poppy is NOT A symbol of death or a sign of support for war A reflection of politics or religion Red to reflect the colour of blood What other definition is there? |
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i hate to inform you yet again, that a website is not the authority on this.
Answer yourself this question, is the poppy a symbol representing the uk soldiers, full time salaried soldiers, who were killed in an illegal war in Iraq? Yes or no? |
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I want to know what Poppywatch have to say.
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i hate to inform you yet again, that a website is not the authority on this.
Answer yourself this question, is the poppy a symbol representing the uk soldiers, full time salaried soldiers, who were killed in an illegal war in Iraq? Yes or no? |
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No, it is what the definition says it is.
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The Fifa method encouraged promising each other things in the hope of a vote, which is a system so open to corruption it is beyond belief.
We played the game, openly, and got screwed over, whilst two extremely dodgy bids got the award. Fair play to you for that. |
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So your admitting the English FA are just as dodgy and corrupt as other FAs and FIFA themselves.
Fair play to you for that. To suggest we are as corrupt as Fifa is stupid. |
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Don't think you will get a reply now DP!
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We played by their rules, openly, whilst they were plotting behind the scenes to shaft us. I think that was the moment reality kicked in for our FA.
To suggest we are as corrupt as Fifa is stupid. The EFA are either corrupt or not, it is black or white. It is like an athlete either bring clean or a cheat. You are admitting the EFA took part in corruption by trying to buy votes. That makes them as bad as FIFA. |
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In what way have FIFA shafted the EFA?
The EFA are either corrupt or not, it is black or white. It is like an athlete either bring clean or a cheat. You are admitting the EFA took part in corruption by trying to buy votes. That makes them as bad as FIFA. |
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In what way have FIFA shafted the EFA?
The EFA are either corrupt or not, it is black or white. It is like an athlete either bring clean or a cheat. You are admitting the EFA took part in corruption by trying to buy votes. That makes them as bad as FIFA. |
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In your blinkered view of the English maybe, but to suggest we are the same as Fifa simply reinforces your prejudice.
Everyone who doesn't agree with you is prejudiced. It is a pathetic response DP. |
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That is your stock response when you haven't got a proper reply to make.
Everyone who doesn't agree with you is prejudiced. It is a pathetic response DP. To suggest the FA are the same as Fifa is pathetic. |
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You are prejudiced.
To suggest the FA are the same as Fifa is pathetic. FIFA are corrupt and, by your own admission, the English Football Association are also corrupt. |
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It stands for what it says it is on that website.
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/reme...-of-the-poppy/ This is what it has stood for for 100 years, and you, and others who want to, cant change that, and neither can Fifa. What other definition is there? |
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