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Fifa have no right to ban people from wearing it so Wear the poppy and ignore what they said. Let them try to punish those who wore it.
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I couldn't care either way whether they have poppies on their shirts or not, but if players/teams want to they should be allowed to especially as FIFA only ban emblems that represent poilitcal, religious or commercial things and the poppy doens't fall into any of those definitions, plus FIFA didn't do anyhting about Ireland having something on their shirt commemerating the Easter Uprising (friendly against Slovakia I believe).
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Having all the politicians wade in makes it slightly harder to deny it's political.
![]() That said I think forcing people to wear them is wrong too
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It's a football match. How many club sides of all standards up and down of the UK wear a poppy when they are playing football. I certainly didn't. It's only recently that the kit manufacturers have jumped on the band wagon with the embroidered poppy and it's all so utterly ridiculous now. So should the Argentinian players that ply their trade in the PL be forced to wear a shirt with a poppy sewn on? I have to agree with the guy from Cornwall who posted earlier about it's got out of hand now with all these tributes etc at matches. It should have been left as it is, poppies are supposed to be pinned to your jacket or whatever, not football shirts. Players will either support the appeal or not, that's their personal choice but to ram it down our throats every year with a sewn on poppy just in case we might think that they don't care about it is a little insulting actually. Then we get this faux rage/outcry by the tabloids and now the PM because FIFA have banned the poppy from the shirts. The appeal will still get a load of money, all the commemorations will still take place and so on. Whether the poppy appeal is political or not is a moot point I guess but it's FIFA's competition and their rules. Just get on with it and play the game. In the grand scheme of things it's been blown out of all proportion.
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I'm sure if there was a large brown envelope stuffed with used notes for FIFA executives it would soon become OK to wear the poppy.
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Some might say if we lose points and miss out on the World Cup then maybe its not a bad thing!
![]() Won't affect the Scots too much maybe... |
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Good to see both FIFA and the FA focusing on the pressing issues surrounding the game...
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I'm sure if there was a large brown envelope stuffed with used notes for FIFA executives it would soon become OK to wear the poppy.
That should do it. |
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Some might say if we lose points and miss out on the World Cup then maybe its not a bad thing!
![]() Won't affect the Scots too much maybe... ![]() ''Hammer them FIFA. They don't follow the rules!''
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Good to see both FIFA and the FA focusing on the pressing issues surrounding the game...
Corruption is also presumably off the table since they've got rid of all the bad eggs now (despite new president Gianni Infantino having been implicated in the Panama Papers). All that's left then is to interfere with a nation trying to honour its dead soldiers. |
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All that's left then is to interfere with a nation trying to honour its dead soldiers.
Nothing whatsoever. |
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And whats that got to do with football?
Nothing whatsoever. The more politicians and the FA make of this, the more political it becomes. The FA are good at telling clubs and players what to do in this country but arent very good at doing what they are told by their superiors. |
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Exactly right, if everyone in this country is expected to wear a poppy to honour the dead, then that makes it a Zionist state, in which case it is a political gesture.
The more politicians and the FA make of this, the more political it becomes. The FA are good at telling clubs and players what to do in this country but arent very good at doing what they are told by their superiors. |
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I think the FA are massively missing the point with this. If they and/ or Wembley want to display a poppy as a mark of respect, then fine, they should just project one onto the pitch in the lead-up to kick-off or something. What they're doing is picking a fight with FIFA for the right to force everyone on the pitch to wear an armband with a poppy on it! Yes, yes, I realise that anyone who doesn't wish to wear one won't have to, but we all know how that usually turns out, so anyone who's got any sense will wear it whether they want to or not.
If anything, the FA should enforce that no-one is allowed to display a poppy on their person whilst in kit, and that they will be making a mark of respect on behalf of all players/ both nations. What the players do before and after the game is their own business, but when wearing their national kit, they shouldn't display any emblems. That way, no-one need feel guilty, or worse, angry, about wearing one if they don't want to, or for not wearing one if they do. Trouble with that, of course, is that some people and media will pick a fight that the players are being denied the right to make a personal mark of respect whilst playing. No matter that they can do what they want the other 166.5 hours of the week; it's all about those 90 minutes of TV time. I love the poppy, but hate the fascism that's grown around it in recent years. |
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Everyone in this country is FREE to make their own choice whether to wear a poppy or not. So how does that make it a Zionist state?
It has become a thing that if you choose not to wear a poppy or choose not to honor the dead etc that it is being commented on by the media (both TV,Printed and Social) and people are heavily criticized for not doing so. The natural progression is that you wear one not out of choice but because of outside pressures |
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As I said before the answer is simple FIFA's appeals procedure merely requires a few brown envelopes containing used notes handed over in a posh hotel somewhere and all will fine and dandy.
FIFA has spent years perfecting this procedure it's been proven to be most successful and lucrative for its hard-working executives.
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As I said before the answer is simple FIFA's appeals procedure merely requires a few brown envelopes containing used notes handed over in a posh hotel somewhere and all will fine and dandy.
FIFA has spent years perfecting this procedure it's been proven to be most successful and lucrative for its hard-working executives. ![]()
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Doesn't everyone remember the fuss that was kicked up about poppies, when Scotland played England at Hampden, the day before Remembrance Sunday 1999?
No? Neither do I. It seemed that a Scotland v England game in 1999, went poppy-gate free. I wonder what happened in the years between!?! |
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Doesn't everyone remember the fuss that was kicked up about poppies, when Scotland played England at Hampden, the day before Remembrance Sunday 1999?
No? Neither do I. It seemed that a Scotland v England game in 1999, went poppy-gate free. I wonder what happened in the years between!?! |
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The backlash a player would get for NOT wearing one, for no particular reason, would be so much that they are forced to do it - they have no choice.
We had this same debate a few years ago about a newsreader who did not have a poppy during a broadcast. (they had left it on their jacket by accident etc) The flack that their received was tremendous. Football should be free of such things. Its already overshadowing the game, the press have hyped it up so much. Its not about world cup qualifying anymore. And that is a shame. Once they do this, what next? Its shameful, it really is. |
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The backlash a player would get for NOT wearing one, for no particular reason, would be so much that they are forced to do it - they have no choice.
We had this same debate a few years ago about a newsreader who did not have a poppy during a broadcast. (they had left it on their jacket by accident etc) The flack that their received was tremendous. Football should be free of such things. Its already overshadowing the game, the press have hyped it up so much. Its not about world cup qualifying anymore. And that is a shame. Once they do this, what next? Its shameful, it really is. It is time to end it. If the government really cared about those that have been in the Armed Forces they wouldn't make them have to accept charity and they'd look after them properly themselves. Still, nothing quite says Remembrance and respect like attaching a plastic red poppy to the front of your German or Japanese car and driving it about. |
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Still, nothing quite says Remembrance and respect like attaching a plastic red poppy to the front of your German or Japanese car and driving it about.
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Everyone in this country is FREE to make their own choice whether to wear a poppy or not. So how does that make it a Zionist state?
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Everyone is free to choose, but if anyone in the public eye either chooses not to or simply forgets to they're met with death threats and told to leave the country.
The FA are a shambles, its pathetic. Its a football match, not a war memorial. |
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I realise your post is only in jest, given FIFA's long-standing tradition of bribery, but I can't help but feel it might defeat the purpose of honouring those who fought for freedom, if the only way to to be allowed to honour them is through colluding in bribery and corrution with the dictatorship running the game.
![]() ![]() Although there have been a few casualties in FIFA top execs. I wonder if anyone really confidently believes it is any less corrupt for all that? |
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