The body count just keeps on rising with this guy and sooner or later he is going to have to pay.

He killed Sam and Danny in a hit-and-run car accident.
He killed Ziggy when he turned the gas out in Leela's apartment and he hit his head in the explosion.
He strangled Lockie to death.
The fire that he set caused Joe to fall to his death and Nico meets her end (her comeuppance for her murderous actions) when the building collapses.

He is getting close to Lindsey Butterfields record of murders in Hollyoaks

Why has this show got so many Serial killers in it. And how come they can get away with it for so long until you hear that the actor is leaving and suddenly the police manage to come out of the woodwork and start doing their job properly

Hmm mm, Warren has killed as many, I think and Freddie has at least 2 under his beLtd, plus he set his brother up to take the fall for Frasers murder.

Not excusing Cameron, zip think his days are numbered but why a free pass for Warren and Freddie? Yes Warren has served time but not much and so had Cameron.

Warren killed Sean, Louise and Dale, who else has he killed to match Cameron's number?

Freddie has only killed one - Fraser.

He will probably kill 1 or 2 more people. And sooner or later, he will get his Comeuppance.

I wasn't sure on Earrens number but they were all deliberate, Joe wasnt intentional and neither was Ziggy or Ssm and Danny by original telling.

As I say. Not excusing him. He meant to kill Leela last Xmas and showed no remorse for Ziggy and gave no thought for anybody else in the maze but I don't see he is worse than others.

Didn't Freddie kill a cop before Fraser? I also thought Warren killed somebody in a Later and there is the person who died in his place in the Loft fire

Pretty sure he'll die or go to jail at Christmas.

Sticking to my point about the numbers not on wether any of this is deliberate or not.

Warren killed three, he never killed in HO Later, however, he made Seth think he killed a lap dancer but she was actually alive and buried a dead pig to fool Seth.

And no, Freddie didn't kill a cop before killing Fraser however, Trevor did and made him get rid of the body.

Hollyoaks is the place to live if you are a murderer cos hasn't grace also murdered someone. I remember her killing that guy from Footballers Wives. (Can't remember the character in HOs but he got killed)

Mercedes and Cindy technically killed Dr Browning alongside Lindsey as well.

I'm certain that Cameron will meet his end soon. Still think that Lockie is somehow alive in a twist. Would certainly explain why he didn't want his family to see that body at the morgue.

Exactly

Once you've got into the multiples (actually one deliberate murder is bad enough) you can't use the "oh that's ok then" for an (at least) triple murderer. Warren's killings were definitely deliberate but let's for the sake of argument be generous to Cameron.

Sam and Danny's killings were actually a bonus that he doesn't regret. Their deaths weren't his initial intention
Ziggy's death was collateral damage, not his intended target.
Still some debate as to whether Lockie is dead or not but there is a body involved although who and how we don't know.
Joe was collateral damage
Nico seems to be the only one of his killings that was his intended target

Don't get me wrong Cameron is a culpable **** who deserves all that is coming to him but I don't count him as worse than the others we have floating around.

The one I really don't get the good vibes for is murderous moo Grace who has had all and sundry on her hit list.

She killed a man called Ray (I'm pretty sure it was Ray), the guy who kidnapped her over Christmas 2013.

Wasn't she trying to kill Freddie when Phoebe was shot? Ok, Linsey finished Phoebe off but she wouldn't have been in Hospital if not for Grace. If Will is counted as one of Nicos kills then surely Phoebe must be linked to Grace. She also shot Liam when going for Sienna nit so long ago.

Its fair enough for prople to judge it purely on numbers but fir me, intent is crucisl re evaluating whether a character can remain likeabke or sympathetic and as such a viable character long term. Warren having intended to kill his 3 victims makes him a serisl killer to my eyes and I fail to see why people see no problem with him remaining in the show but they do Cameron. Likewise Grace, Freddie and Teresa back when she was in.

I do think Cameron crossed the line last Xmas when he declared he crashed into the Lomaxes on purpose (which wasn't howbit was originally portrayed), tried to kill Leela and then joked about Ziggy dying instead. It's just got worse sincw then.

But I still don't see Grace, Freddie or Warren as any 'nicer', more moral or sympathetic.

I have suddenly remembered someone else Cameron killed: Big Bob! Cameron got involved in a skuffle with Bob at the Hospital siege 2 years ago, and the gun in Bob's pocket went off, killing him. Maybe Cameron located the trigger and pulled it?

Grace held the gun at Freddie and Lindsey, yes, but Trevor convinced her to put it down. It was actually Joe who picked it up, but Mercedes hit his arm and he shot Phoebe through the Garage, so it was actually Joe that put Phoebe in hospital, although it was Grace's fault the gun was there and partly Mercedes' fault that Phoebe was hit, not Freddie/Lindsey.

Big Bob and Nico, Cameron deserves a pardon no but seriously this HO murderers tend to get away with stuff but I think in this case Cameron will get his comeuppance.

I agree this seems inevitable. Next week we have a matter concerning Courtney coming back and the body in the morgue. Cameron Moore gave a potentially revealing interview in Metro and hinted at the following.

Remember there is also the time bomb of Leela hooking up with Jesse in June. For all she insisted to Tegan and Ste that it was only a snog, she looked worried when Ste mentioned it relating to the pregnancy. I still think they'll be doubt re paternity and can't see Cam reacting well to that possibility.

This is very true. I suddenly feel like commenting on a spoiler I spotted on these threads.

which since has been revealed to us viewers that it wasn't actually an accident at all he knew full well what he was doing

Grace had Ray McCormick killed, he was played Cristian Solimeno and was a pretty forgettable character as his stint was so short

Which was pretty annoying, as it was obvious at the time that it was an accident caused by Danny (was that his name?) pulling out of a side road without checking whether there was anything coming because he was too busy arguing with Sam. Really, Cameron's only crime in that instance was leaving the scene of an accident. But, heigh ho, Hollyoaks later decided it had been murder.

And also at the time did Cameron know if Peri was in the car or not? I know he lashes out blindly when he sees red not caring who gets caught up but if he had the remotest suspicion Peri was there he wouldn't have done it deliberately.

I got the feeling that his "confession" to doing it deliberately was actually a way of bigging himself up and wanting to make himself appear more fearsome when in fact he was just taking advantage of the circumstances.

Tge accident most definateky appeared to be an accident at the time. Both the actual event as stated and Camerons reactions afterwards including his guilt being suvh that he confessed to Leela when under the influence of magic mushrooms. We're meant to believe that they worked as a truth serum to such an extent that he confessed when nobody even suspected hom, losing Leela and Peri and risking Prison, which he was terrified of, in the process. But he managed to be thinkinh straight and eviously enough to lie that he'd done it on purpose? Doesn't make sense.

Then there was his apparent, genuine remorse and acceptance that he deserved to be in Prison for their deaths so giving a full confession and pleading guilty last Autumn. Hardly the actons of the near Sociopath they are depicting now.

Plus, yes, Peri could have been.in the car and she's the one person hecwould never hurt.

I truly believe they changed direction wit Cameron's character and the reveal of his having killed the Lomaxes was a retcon to establish his psycho sude so hus trying to kill Leela and then turning on Lochie, who he'd always been close to, wouldn't seem so jarring.

BIB - Exactly. It still did, though.