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Old 18-11-2016, 09:33
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An issue i have is the way that Robert really seems to see it as such a casual thing.


Part of why this is worse to me is because we've seen him show no guilt or sign that he's remotely bothered about what just happened/ is happening with Rebecca. And especially when even after the kiss he never mentioned Aaron...(i know some think that's part of a plan) and even basically left it open between them.

Even if it was a stupid mistake that meant absolutely nothing, even if it was all part of a plan..which i'm sorry but i don't think it was either...how is Robert seemingly not bothered about it and what he's done to Aaron? How can he go around with something happening/there with someone else and we just not see anything from him? And even still just mentioning her so casually as well. It seems and feels so awful

Fair enough if it's not like we've had a load of scenes, and only one of actual Robert with Aaron, but still, that's pat of the issue as well, the fact we haven't had the scenes. I really felt me personally i just needed to see Robert at least a bit bothered, some aftermath to it....and it's making it worse, maybe it's just me.

I seem to be flitting between kind of thinking it will be fine and its not that bad and being heartbroken and angry about it still and not knowing how it can be possibly gotten over. Like a yo yo at the miniute.
I think he appeared to be bothered at the graveyard when Diane mentioned something about him and Rebecca because he looked at Aaron. I think the problem is that it's a bit all over the place at the moment. You see them on screen one moment but not the next - there's no continuity and things just aren't flowing at the moment. I think we need to be patient and wait until the week after next when we know that they're on screen together and the storyline gathers pace. Also, one good thing is that, according to Maxine, they're both in it quite a bit in December 😊
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:36
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Hi guys, I feel the same like a yoyo with it all. I keep thinking of Aaron when Rebecca tells him. She is so going to make it sound worse so much worse. His face. He will be devastated. I think Rebecca will be really nasty and smug about it too. Do we think it will just be her and Aaron when she tells him. Or will she tell him in front of Robert?? I just need Aaron to know.
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:37
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hi andy well I've just caught up with last nite's eps and agree it was a complete waste of time, mainly cos I have no real interest in those stories. Kerry can be funny sometimes but at the moment I'm afraid its soo boring that I just ff through. I am only really interested in robron, although as I was told how finn's story might go I will follow that I think I said why but otherwise at the moment most of it is a waste of time and even the supposed comedy isn't funny. However, I am deffo not giving up on robron cos it will all come right in the end I think we just have to stick with this current rebecca stuff as there will be a twist and it will probably seem completely unbelievable but so long and it means the guyz stay on course I'm in. I would go down with this ship but I since its not actually going down I'll just hang on for the bumpy bits. It seems quite a few people are having a break from posting but are keeping an eye on here, so please do the same. I'll just keep going and hope I don't annoy anyone with my not very clever posts You know I love it that you always have a film for every occasion but please come back when we've got through this. We will do. I know you work incredible long hard hours but hey, just think once it gets back on track there'll be loads of good stuff to take your mind of things micheál x

BIB and underlined-- noted!! lolz... won't be bothering to watch on iplayer eeekk
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:38
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The truth is we now watch Emmeroaks - mind-rotting time filler that gets more absurd and more annoying each night. Thursdays are especially horrendous, even though I am watching recordings I can FF through. Rakesh isn't even a bent lawyer any more he is just a comedy one. Pierce seems to be developing Robert Newton's character in Obsession (1947). RN was a better actor though. Rishi and Jai couldn't run a bath, let alone a toy factory.

As for the White story, clearly Rebecca wants to get Chrissie to go down for the shooting (it's Nathan Wylde all over again), and it will probably end with her being responsible for the demise of Lawrence, with Ronnie as her nemesis.

At this point I have had enough of the story and the series, and sadly, the forum. I am sick to death of keep reading relentless, never ending posts about Robert "cheating" Robert being the devil incarnate, all still rehashing Tuesday's badly written script from one of ITVs biggest losers. If you dare to point this out, you are accused of being "rude" to other posters, when you point out that they repeatedly cover the same ground a dozen times a day

I have deleted Emmerdale from my recording list, and I suggest that some of you, if you really are as bored as I am do the same thing. I have thought for a long time that Emmerdale should be reduced from six episodes a week to a maximum of four. After last nights, and indeed, all this week's crap I think the time has come to take the axe to it.

Anyway, this is my last post. "Tattybye" as Ken Dodd would say, "Tattybye".
Oh Andy, please don't leave permanently - I've always enjoyed reading your posts, especially your references to films and TV 🙂. I know things are frustrating at the moment and you feel like you're banging your head against a brick wall but come back the week after next because we'll have a better understanding of what's going on rather than just pure speculation 🙃
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:41
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hi andy well I've just caught up with last nite's eps and agree it was a complete waste of time, mainly cos I have no real interest in those stories. Kerry can be funny sometimes but at the moment I'm afraid its soo boring that I just ff through. I am only really interested in robron, although as I was told how finn's story might go I will follow that I think I said why but otherwise at the moment most of it is a waste of time and even the supposed comedy isn't funny. However, I am deffo not giving up on robron cos it will all come right in the end I think we just have to stick with this current rebecca stuff as there will be a twist and it will probably seem completely unbelievable but so long and it means the guyz stay on course I'm in. I would go down with this ship but I since its not actually going down I'll just hang on for the bumpy bits. It seems quite a few people are having a break from posting but are keeping an eye on here, so please do the same. I'll just keep going and hope I don't annoy anyone with my not very clever posts You know I love it that you always have a film for every occasion but please come back when we've got through this. We will do. I know you work incredible long hard hours but hey, just think once it gets back on track there'll be loads of good stuff to take your mind of things micheál x
I know right.....I mean what's all of this nonsense with Kerry? 😳 As if she'd be allowed to get away with that 😖. And don't get me started on Rebecca 😝
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:48
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I think he appeared to be bothered at the graveyard when Diane mentioned something about him and Rebecca because he looked at Aaron. I think the problem is that it's a bit all over the place at the moment. You see them on screen one moment but not the next - there's no continuity and things just aren't flowing at the moment. I think we need to be patient and wait until the week after next when we know that they're on screen together and the storyline gathers pace. Also, one good thing is that, according to Maxine, they're both in it quite a bit in December 😊
Yeh cus he thought it was about to come out......i'm not talking about him being on edge over it coming out i'm talking about him feeling guilt or sadness over what he's actually done...not just whether it will come out.

It's like the saying "are you sorry...or sorry it came out?"
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:56
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I think i've just got to stop thinking about it to be honest, t i think i need to just accept how i feel, what my interpretation was/is, see if anything changes naturally over the next week and then see how the upcoming eps change things and how they make me feel or resolve things.

I just desperately hope i can get back to some normality with Robron, because i just really feel too weird and disconcerted about Robron at the moment, , i really hope that it changes
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Old 18-11-2016, 09:59
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I think I would feel worse if he was showing a lot of guilt over it. That to me would be sign that there was something there more than a kiss, whether it be a strong attraction or feelings. That he's not says it was what it was a stupid mistake that he knows won't happen again and he thinks he has it under intros.

And yes I do think he is the type of person who probably doesn't see a kiss is a huge betrayal and could more than live with himself for it. Bear in mind we are talking about someone who has had all sorts of sordid affairs through the years, he can live with this mistake. But he knows Aaron doesn't feel that way and so yes I expect it will be when he is faced with the possibility of Aaron knowing that we will see guilt, because it will be hurting Aaron that will break his heart more than his own stupid mistake.
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:16
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I just dread the moment of Aaron finding out. Yes we know the relationship survives but obviously at that moment things will be up in the air and in a mess.

Thing is, after everything, evertything that has happened, Aaron is on a path now of happiness and settling down and care free, with people he loves around him. He's opened himself up to someone, let himself trust someone, enough to let them put a ring on his finger which i;m sure he never would have dreamed might happen...for him to then find out he's been cheated on. It's just horrible

For everything to come crashing down and the rug pulled from under him when he finally though things were on the up and was in a new life now.

Fair enough, as i said, we know they still stay together and so it's not quite that dramatic in the bigger picture, but in that moment and episode it will be and that's i think why a lot of fans are so heartbroken and unforgiving, yes one of the ship has cheated, always a horrible thing to have to cope with in a ship regardless, but it's the circumstances as well, when Aaron is finally happy, when Aaron has started to trust him, when they have just got engaged, when we just had the amazing things in SSW and Robert promised the things he's now already broken....it's just the worst possible time for this to have happened.
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:32
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Personally i still find it hard to believe the engagement will still be on....even if Robert spun a complete lie and managed to get Aaron to believe it was nothing...i still believe that the situation would make Aaron sufficiently insecure and untrusting enough to at least call it off temporarily, We know it took a lot of ppersuading for him to trust Robert enough to agree to marry Robert in the first place...i just don't believe for a second this wouldn't jolt him back into not being able to go that far.

Maybe it's just me...i don't know what you guys think?
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:42
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An issue i have is the way that Robert really seems to see it as such a casual thing.


Part of why this is worse to me is because we've seen him show no guilt or sign that he's remotely bothered about what just happened/ is happening with Rebecca. And especially when even after the kiss he never mentioned Aaron...(i know some think that's part of a plan) and even basically left it open between them.

Even if it was a stupid mistake that meant absolutely nothing, even if it was all part of a plan..which i'm sorry but i don't think it was either...how is Robert seemingly not bothered about it and what he's done to Aaron? How can he go around with something happening/there with someone else and we just not see anything from him? And even still just mentioning her so casually as well. It seems and feels so awful

Fair enough if it's not like we've had a load of scenes, and only one of actual Robert with Aaron, but still, that's pat of the issue as well, the fact we haven't had the scenes. I really felt me personally i just needed to see Robert at least a bit bothered, some aftermath to it....and it's making it worse, maybe it's just me.

I seem to be flitting between kind of thinking it will be fine and its not that bad and being heartbroken and angry about it still and not knowing how it can be possibly gotten over. Like a yo yo at the miniute.
bib1 at the moment i can't see how it can be anything else and as stupid as it will be i guess i'll just go a long with it BUT it may be so clever that we just haven't worked it all out yet and danny did say there were more twists. btw on the mt there is a thread for another programme called something like 'suspension of reality' i think we fast getting there

bib2 actually i think that's exactly what they want
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:43
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Personally i still find it hard to believe the engagement will still be on....even if Robert spun a complete lie and managed to get Aaron to believe it was nothing...i still believe that the situation would make Aaron sufficiently insecure and untrusting enough to at least call it off temporarily, We know it took a lot of ppersuading for him to trust Robert enough to agree to marry Robert in the first place...i just don't believe for a second this wouldn't jolt him back into not being able to go that far.

Maybe it's just me...i don't know what you guys think?
I agree. Robert did need to convince Aaron to marry him. I think I dont know about anyone else but if Robert had asked him before the crash Aaron would not have said yes straight away. He needed those reassurances but that is the worst. I promise you are enough, I dont want anyone else. No one comes close. When he finds out about the kiss won't he want to bring all that up. He is already suspicious of Robert and Rebecca anyway. I just don't see how he can be fine. He has already said Robert won't turn him into one of those weirdos that sits and waits at home. Unless things aren't as rosy as they seem. As in they are still together but Aaron guard is up with Robert. Just because he is looking at places may not mean Aaron is fully okay with him. Or Robert could be really upset and totally honest and that might be enough.
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:51
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I find it so hard to understand why other characters get so many unnecessary scenes like how much we've seen Kerry this week but there was no follow up at all to Robert/Rebecca. Why do we have to wait another two weeks for the outcome?
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:54
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I think I would feel worse if he was showing a lot of guilt over it. That to me would be sign that there was something there more than a kiss, whether it be a strong attraction or feelings. That he's not says it was what it was a stupid mistake that he knows won't happen again and he thinks he has it under intros.

And yes I do think he is the type of person who probably doesn't see a kiss is a huge betrayal and could more than live with himself for it. Bear in mind we are talking about someone who has had all sorts of sordid affairs through the years, he can live with this mistake. But he knows Aaron doesn't feel that way and so yes I expect it will be when he is faced with the possibility of Aaron knowing that we will see guilt, because it will be hurting Aaron that will break his heart more than his own stupid mistake.
I agree. To him it was just a kiss - sex would be what he classes as a betrayal. I don't think he meant to kiss her back. I think they'd been drinking and he got caught up in the moment. He came to his senses and stopped it. I really don't think he has any feelings for her whatsoever.

What I find is sad is that all the good things he's done over the last 11 months for Aaron seems to be overshadowed by one kiss, one moment of madness 😒. I'd rather focus on all the good that's happened and will continue to happen because for me they far outweigh one silly kiss 😊
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Old 18-11-2016, 10:56
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I know I'm probably clutching at straws here - but the spoiler says Aaron is shocked by Rebecca's confession - not 'revelation'. Perhaps this is the twist they were on about - maybe she tells about the kiss but also says something else that nobody was expecting. I know I'm probably completely off the mark more than likely. Just trying to stay positive.
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:00
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I agree. To him it was just a kiss - sex would be what he classes as a betrayal. I don't think he meant to kiss her back. I think they'd been drinking and he got caught up in the moment. He came to his senses at stopped it. I really don't think he has any feelings for her whatsoever.

What I find is sad is that all the good things he's done over the last 11 months for Aaron seems to be overshadowed by one kiss, one moment of madness 😒. I'd rather focus on all the good that's happened and will continue to happen because for me they far outweigh one silly kiss 😊
I agree. I think that this is the way that emmerdale wanted us to interprete the scene. But suddenly we all freak out thinking that Robert wants Rebecca.... I reckon that they aren`t gonna give the importance that we are giving to that scene at all.
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:02
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I know I'm probably clutching at straws here - but the spoiler says Aaron is shocked by Rebecca's confession - not 'revelation'. Perhaps this is the twist they were on about - maybe she tells about the kiss but also says something else that nobody was expecting. I know I'm probably completely off the mark more than likely. Just trying to stay positive.
yes that's a very good point it could actually be nothing to do with the kiss at all like maybe she says she never really came back to help andy but had her own plans from the beginning but not her and robert obvs
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:07
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We;ve had a spoiler specifically saying she reveals the kiss haven't we? And then didn't Kirsten say that the secret was the kiss as well?
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:14
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Just hang on a minute or two folks while I pick myself up from being knocked down again!! I did mention the kiss but I also said that she could say something else as well. Give me strength - I've had enough of this!!
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:35
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I know I'm probably clutching at straws here - but the spoiler says Aaron is shocked by Rebecca's confession - not 'revelation'. Perhaps this is the twist they were on about - maybe she tells about the kiss but also says something else that nobody was expecting. I know I'm probably completely off the mark more than likely. Just trying to stay positive.
I asked Kirsten about the confession and she said it was about the kiss. I dont know if Rebecca will say something more to Aaron. I dont think so.
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:37
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We;ve had a spoiler specifically saying she reveals the kiss haven't we? And then didn't Kirsten say that the secret was the kiss as well?
Yes, I asked Kirsten about it and she said it that the secret was the kiss
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:38
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Just hang on a minute or two folks while I pick myself up from being knocked down again!! I did mention the kiss but I also said that she could say something else as well. Give me strength - I've had enough of this!!
you were correct it was me not you (sorry) who got a bit carried away so people should have read your post more closely
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:54
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Just hang on a minute or two folks while I pick myself up from being knocked down again!! I did mention the kiss but I also said that she could say something else as well. Give me strength - I've had enough of this!!
Of what? I just said I thought Kirsten told us that's what the confession was?. It wasn't an attack or anything. Sorry if it came across like that.
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Old 18-11-2016, 11:56
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you were correct it was me not you (sorry) who got a bit carried away so people should have read your post more closely
I'm sorry for being so melodramatic about it. I was just trying to stay positive about things and yes I know Kirsten has said the kiss but we also know that she is not at liberty to divulge everything - that's what I was meaning. No disrespect meant to anybody on here.
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Old 18-11-2016, 12:19
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And yes I do think he is the type of person who probably doesn't see a kiss is a huge betrayal and could more than live with himself for it. Bear in mind we are talking about someone who has had all sorts of sordid affairs through the years, he can live with this mistake. But he knows Aaron doesn't feel that way and so yes I expect it will be when he is faced with the possibility of Aaron knowing that we will see guilt, because it will be hurting Aaron that will break his heart more than his own stupid mistake.
Lol! I doubt he'd be ok with the idea of Aaron snogging someone else though. Granted he was also playing it up to guilt her for his own ends, but he still wasn't exactly happy when he found out Chrissie kissed Cain. If, for instance Aaron kissed Finn while comforting him over his fake boyfriend, Kasim, (and no that isn't a spoiler) and didn't tell him and Robert found out from someone else I think he'd hit the roof.
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