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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 10)
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Windy_City
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“I think I would feel worse if he was showing a lot of guilt over it. That to me would be sign that there was something there more than a kiss, whether it be a strong attraction or feelings. That he's not says it was what it was a stupid mistake that he knows won't happen again and he thinks he has it under intros.

And yes I do think he is the type of person who probably doesn't see a kiss is a huge betrayal and could more than live with himself for it. Bear in mind we are talking about someone who has had all sorts of sordid affairs through the years, he can live with this mistake. But he knows Aaron doesn't feel that way and so yes I expect it will be when he is faced with the possibility of Aaron knowing that we will see guilt, because it will be hurting Aaron that will break his heart more than his own stupid mistake.”

These are interesting points. He does prob. think in his mind its not a big deal. Especially for someone who has had lots of affairs and could have been doing her the whole time if he wanted to. Not saying its right or makes it better but I can see how he rationalizes it in his head.

He will only start to feel like shit when Aaron finds out and hopefully lets it rip on Robert.

I still feel like ED dont think its a big deal. Depends on how Aaron reacts and how Robron are after its revealed.
Puppy Dog Eyes
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Emmerdale_Spain:
“I agree. I think that this is the way that emmerdale wanted us to interprete the scene. But suddenly we all freak out thinking that Robert wants Rebecca.... I reckon that they aren`t gonna give the importance that we are giving to that scene at all.”

Exactly. They most probably didn't think it was a big deal and didn't expect the backlash they got. Makes me wonder if they used the wrong clip because what we saw on screen was nothing like those spoiler pics 😊😊
WhatYouGonnaDo?
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“Lol! I doubt he'd be ok with the idea of Aaron snogging someone else though. Granted he was also playing it up to guilt her for his own ends, but he still wasn't exactly happy when he found out Chrissie kissed Cain. If, for instance Aaron kissed Finn while comforting him over his fake boyfriend, Kasim, (and no that isn't a spoiler) and didn't tell him and Robert found out from someone else I think he'd hit the roof.”


Of course he would, he would totally have double standards (like Cain when he hit the roof over Pete kissing Moira forgetting what he did with Chrissie just a few months before) that wasn't the point I was making.
Puppy Dog Eyes
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Yeh cus he thought it was about to come out......i'm not talking about him being on edge over it coming out i'm talking about him feeling guilt or sadness over what he's actually done...not just whether it will come out.

It's like the saying "are you sorry...or sorry it came out?"”

I think it's just frustrating for us that we have to wait so long for the confrontations. It's a shame that it wasn't continued this week or next 😐
Mumto3
18-11-2016
Well it seems like most of the positivity has gone along with more posters. Doubt I'll be posting much until they come back.
But I recommend you watch this and then decide if this past year has been for nothing, then see the bigger picture.

http://3ofme.tumblr.com/post/1533409...positive-about
Coldwater2020
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“Of course he would, he would totally have double standards (like Cain when he hit the roof over Pete kissing Moira forgetting what he did with Chrissie just a few months before) that wasn't the point I was making.”

Well Robert is very good at self-serving rationalizations. He certainly he has no trouble justifying his bad behaviour in his own head, we've seen that repeatedly, but he can't pretend that he thinks Aaron would be ok with it because Aaron has been very clear with him repeatedly about how not ok he is with it even as late as a couple of episodes ago. And he can hardly see Aaron jealous and annoyed just by seeing him and Rebecca touching hands and reasonably believe, but he'll be ok with me kissing her.
amy_ryan1
18-11-2016
Afternoon all.

I totally agree with WhatYouGonnaDo. There really wasn't a line that Robert wouldn't cross when it came to fidelity.. feeling guilty & having genuine remorse wasn't something he was used to feeling. So this kiss with Bex really won't be a big deal to him, no matter how much he loves Aaron, he can live with it.. especially when he has motives with her & actually has no intention of letting anything happen.

Of course Robert knows that Aaron won't see it that way, so once she starts making threats, this is when we'll see the panic.. but that certainly doesn't make it ok as Robert has still done something he knows would hurt Aaron if he found out, regardless of his reasons, & Robert knows that.

I'm really looking forward to Aaron been told as I think Robert needs a good kick up the arse for been so sure of Bex & for letting things get out of hand.. even tho they remain together, Aaron will still give him a good telling & we'll probably see Robert scared on where this leaves them.
Fhionnuisce
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mumto3:
“Well it seems like most of the positivity has gone along with more posters. Doubt I'll be posting much until they come back.
But I recommend you watch this and then decide if this past year has been for nothing, then see the bigger picture.

http://3ofme.tumblr.com/post/1533409...positive-about”

haha well I positive and not going anywhere
Lucie_Girard
18-11-2016
It's crazy how a bad writing episode could do to people

I am and will always be on the fluffy bus

I will continue to post. I think that it really depends how people feel about the whole thing.

Personnally, I got over it pretty quickly. Because after everything they went through together I won't let a stupid plot kiss to ruin it for me.
ASRRAS
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by amy_ryan1:
“Afternoon all.

I totally agree with WhatYouGonnaDo. There really wasn't a line that Robert wouldn't cross when it came to fidelity.. feeling guilty & having genuine remorse wasn't something he was used to feeling. So this kiss with Bex really won't be a big deal to him, no matter how much he loves Aaron, he can live with it.. especially when he has motives with her & actually has no intention of letting anything happen.

Of course Robert knows that Aaron won't see it that way, so once she starts making threats, this is when we'll see the panic.. but that certainly doesn't make it ok as Robert has still done something he knows would hurt Aaron if he found out, regardless of his reasons, & Robert knows that.

I'm really looking forward to Aaron been told as I think Robert needs a good kick up the arse for been so sure of Bex & for letting things get out of hand.. even tho they remain together, Aaron will still give him a good telling & we'll probably see Robert scared on where this leaves them.”



Im really looking for this too!
WhatYouGonnaDo?
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“Well Robert is very good at self-serving rationalizations. He certainly he has no trouble justifying his bad behaviour in his own head, we've seen that repeatedly, but he can't pretend that he thinks Aaron would be ok with it because Aaron has been very clear with him repeatedly about how not ok he is with it even as late as a couple of episodes ago. And he can hardly see Aaron jealous and annoyed just by seeing him and Rebecca touching hands and reasonably believe, but he'll be ok with me kissing her.”

All of which was acknowledged and pointed out in the parts of my original post that you have chosen to ignore in order to grind your axe and make your point.
WhatYouGonnaDo?
18-11-2016
I have had a bit more time to lurk and post these past few days, shame it wasn't at a happier time for the boys.
Lucie_Girard
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“I have had a bit more time to lurk and post these past few days, shame it wasn't at a happier time for the boys.”

Eventually we will be back in a happier place

OT I was wondering do you think that the flowers that Rhona received yesterday were the same that Robert put on his mother graves

I thought they looked similar

Did Paddy just got them from the cemetery lol
Partygirl1
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by amy_ryan1:
“Afternoon all.

I totally agree with WhatYouGonnaDo. There really wasn't a line that Robert wouldn't cross when it came to fidelity.. feeling guilty & having genuine remorse wasn't something he was used to feeling. So this kiss with Bex really won't be a big deal to him, no matter how much he loves Aaron, he can live with it.. especially when he has motives with her & actually has no intention of letting anything happen.

Of course Robert knows that Aaron won't see it that way, so once she starts making threats, this is when we'll see the panic.. but that certainly doesn't make it ok as Robert has still done something he knows would hurt Aaron if he found out, regardless of his reasons, & Robert knows that.

I'm really looking forward to Aaron been told as I think Robert needs a good kick up the arse for been so sure of Bex & for letting things get out of hand.. even tho they remain together, Aaron will still give him a good telling & we'll probably see Robert scared on where this leaves them.”

I really hope we do see Robert scared and worried. He must be worried about Aaron knowing if he is willing to break Lachlan out to stop him finding out. I want Aaron to be tough with Robert I think he will be as Aaron will be so hurt. I think he will put his barriers back up a little with Robert too. One thing I have always loved and I think Robert does too. Is that Aaron can read Robert like a book and takes no nonsense from him. I hope this is the case here too.
ASRRAS
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mumto3:
“Well it seems like most of the positivity has gone along with more posters. Doubt I'll be posting much until they come back.
But I recommend you watch this and then decide if this past year has been for nothing, then see the bigger picture.

http://3ofme.tumblr.com/post/1533409...positive-about”

I love the video! Im still positive!
Raaron
18-11-2016
Agree with the points about Robert not seeing the kiss as a big deal. For Aaron it is a huge betrayal of trust - if it is dealt with in such a way with Robert understanding why it is such a betrayal and the consequences of his actions on his relationship, then there are positives to the storyline.

I really hope the kiss isn't swept under the carpet with barely any reaction/consequences - it would show such inconsistency (although that's a big problem with the show already), and a lack of understanding of the characters.

The kiss was a huge defining moment in their relationship, and deserves to be treated as such. We've yet to see the storyline play out, so I'll reserve judgement on whether the show sees it in the same way. I know a lot of people are feeling let down, but if dealt with in the right way, there are ways in which the relationship can be made even stronger.
Coldwater2020
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by WhatYouGonnaDo?:
“All of which was acknowledged and pointed out in the parts of my original post that you have chosen to ignore in order to grind your axe and make your point.”

Who's grinding an axe? I was commenting on a post. I didn't ignore anything. And yes I was pointing out that it's not just about Robert no matter how much he might want to pretend it is.

Quote:
“ The kiss was a huge defining moment in their relationship, and deserves to be treated as such. We've yet to see the storyline play out, so I'll reserve judgement on whether the show sees it in the same way. I know a lot of people are feeling let down, but if dealt with in the right way, there are ways in which the relationship can be made even stronger.”

Soaps aren't generally great at aftermath, this one included, but they could mine a lot of interesting character development from this if they played it right and owned it, but the way they're handling story lines like Kerry's supposed downward spiral and even this whole Sugden/ White feud doesn't exactly inspiring confidence that the writers have the ability or the desire really to pull that off well right now.
Melephunk2010
18-11-2016
I can forgive Robert in time i think - like many have said it depends on how truthful he is with Aaron once Rebecca spills the beans...

To be honest if I can forgive him for practically holding a gun to Aaron's head which he no doubt would have used had Paddy not got caught in the crossfire, I can forgive him for this.
mpond
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mumto3:
“Well it seems like most of the positivity has gone along with more posters. Doubt I'll be posting much until they come back.
But I recommend you watch this and then decide if this past year has been for nothing, then see the bigger picture.

http://3ofme.tumblr.com/post/1533409...positive-about”

ah please you if you and then i will start to think i will im on the Robron fluffy bus we have our Maxines ep on the 29th and i sure we get a lovely kiss to make up for it and we have Robron thinking of buying a palce and Robron over xmas ive been a robron fan since day 1 and will be there for there Robron wedding it will be great x matty ps you PM your reply here and on twitter lots of love matty robron have come along leaps and bounds the last 6 months and have wedding OMG its all started with SB rps on tues there be march to emmerdale if ever writes another Robron epsidode but have Maxines eps to make it alright and im sure IM knows this and he will give us lovely robron secene going into xmas x
Lucie_Girard
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by mpond:
“ah please you if you and then i will start to think i will im on the Robron fluffy bus we have our Maxines ep on the 29th and i sure we get a lovely kiss to make up for it and we have Robron thinking of buying a palce and Robron over xmas ive been a robron fan since day 1 and will be there for there Robron wedding it will be great x matty ps you PM your reply here and on twitter lots of love matty robron have come along leaps and bounds the last 6 months and have wedding OMG its all started with SB rps on tues there be march to emmerdale if ever writes another Robron epsidode but have Maxines eps to make it alright and im sure IM knows this and he will give us lovely robron secene going into xmas x”

Amen to that. I am here since day 1 also and I will be here forever.

I saw that on the 30th of November Cameron McCallister wtote the episode. You know the episode he wrote not too long ago about the hot kiss
Melephunk2010
18-11-2016
Again with a lot of people currently annoyed by Robert cheating - no-one seemed to mention that Yesterday was Aaron & Robert's one month engaged anniversary, lol
mpond
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lucie_Girard:
“Amen to that. I am here since day 1 also and I will be here forever.

I saw that on the 30th of November Cameron McCallister wtote the episode. You know the episode he wrote not too long ago about the hot kiss”

was it i thought it our maxine alderton wrote the 14th october hot kiss i think we get another one soon yeah i think maxine will give us one with hers yeah do you think that Staurt Blackburn see the SSW ? if he did he wouldnt have wrote it yeah
Puppy Dog Eyes
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mumto3:
“Well it seems like most of the positivity has gone along with more posters. Doubt I'll be posting much until they come back.
But I recommend you watch this and then decide if this past year has been for nothing, then see the bigger picture.

http://3ofme.tumblr.com/post/1533409...positive-about”

Don't go Mumto3 - I'm still very positive. A silly kiss isn't going to put me off 😊
mpond
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Melephunk2010:
“Again with a lot of people currently annoyed by Robert cheating - no-one seemed to mention that Yesterday was Aaron & Robert's one month engaged anniversary, lol”

hi mydear how you? i dont Rob cheated i still say that Stuart Blackburn didnt watch SSW at all if he he wouldnt have done that i hoping IM has the sense and not have him ever write another Robron maxine have to calm us down and give us a lovely episode to get back on track and i think we will get make up kiss to clam us down x ant the end of the we have Robron ist xmas together and Aaron planing it over xmas and of course we must some scenes in Dec For them to think about it matty
amy_ryan1
18-11-2016
I wonder if we'll see Robert tonight, given the Lachlan stuff. Probably a R/R scene with her all pleased with herself.. how great would it be if she notices that Robert's attitude has suddenly changed now that Lachlan has confessed, but again if he's not yet done with the Whites I doubt it. It would be nice to see Aaron too, but he'll probably be out the way until after next week.
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