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Old 08-11-2016, 01:17
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I`m glad Aaron will get a scene with her after it comes out. I really hope Aaron doesn't find out in a humiliating way in front of a bunch of people or something.

It does annoy me that Rebecca will still be around him and them though. Ugh.
I think the fact Aaron does find out about the 2nd kiss means nothing will happen with Robert and Rebecca as Aaron will have found out about all the attempts that never happens in soaps if characters have affairs the other one is oblivious. We know Robert rejects her again so Rebecca must get the message. I must admit I am worried by Ryan last line. But I think after re reading Ryan is teasing and that is in general to Robert staying faithful to Aaron not necessarily in relation to Rebecca if that makes sense.
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:17
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Robert did a lot of "until further notice this is over and we can't be in the same room together" in the beginning. But then he'd show up (what seemed like) the next day saying "I've sorted it, coast is clear. Business as usual"

Having kept reading I think the debate on Duncan's twitter is more that Rebecca is very similar to how Robert used to be and he's developed as a character so much. So we should give Rebecca's character a chance to do the same.
This is a good and positive interpretation.
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:18
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Exactly. Robert was the one who pursued Aaron in the first place - Aaron didn't go after him. Aaron tried to end it on more than one occasion but Robert always chased after him and even when his marriage ended he still hung around in the hope that him and Aaron could be together. Robert has told Rebecca that she doesn't do it for him anymore whereas Aaron always did it for him and continues to do it for him

Hopefully this will be the last time she throws herself at him otherwise it'll get even more tiresome than it already is [/QUOTE]

Same. The character has potential (even as a future friend to Robert and Aaron) but if they keep up with this stuff beyond making the Robert wont cheat point then it will get tedious and the character will be a sad waste of space.
Yeah, I mentioned the other day that after their first meeting in the pub I thought her and Aaron had the potential to become friends - but then it was ruined by her launching herself at Robert the first time

Maybe after Aaron confronts her they clear the air and they start to get on
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:19
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Yeah, I mentioned the other day that after their first meeting in the pub I thought her and Aaron had the potential to become friends - but then it was ruined by her launching herself at Robert the first time

Maybe after Aaron confronts her they clear the air and they start to get on
Could you imagine how this would piss off Chrissie and the rest of the whites Love it.

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Old 08-11-2016, 01:21
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I think the fact Aaron does find out about the 2nd kiss means nothing will happen with Robert and Rebecca as Aaron will have found out about all the attempts that never happens in soaps if characters have affairs the other one is oblivious. We know Robert rejects her again so Rebecca must get the message. I must admit I am worried by Ryan last line. But I think after re reading Ryan is teasing and that is in general to Robert staying faithful to Aaron not necessarily in relation to Rebecca if that makes sense.
Ryan always teases lol. He meant in general imo. As its a soap and he cant promise anything.

I do agree that Aaron knowing means there wont be anything further because its soap 101 for the partner to be oblivious for it to go further.
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:24
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Ryan always teases lol. He meant in general imo. As its a soap and he cant promise anything.

I do agree that Aaron knowing means there wont be anything further because its soap 101 for the partner to be oblivious for it to go further.
Chrissie was completely oblivious for 8 or 9 months until Aaron yelled it at her and killed the Chrobert marriage.
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:26
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Chrissie was completely oblivious for 8 or 9 months until Aaron yelled it at her and killed the Chrobert marriage.
exactly lol.

I do hope its dropped though and wont have months of the same stuff of Aaron being jealous and Rebecca sticking her oar in.
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:26
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Could you imaging how this would piss off Chrissie and the rest of the whites Love it.
LOL yeah - it would be so funny . At the moment I don't like Rebecca but if she backs off Robert then I might start liking her one day .

To be honest I never liked Robert when he first came back into it - I thought it was a bit of a prat - but then when him and Aaron got together I began to really like him and now him and Aaron are my favourite characters
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:27
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Great to see Danny excited for Adam and that he'll be cheering him on really looking forward to seeing how he does-I'm sure he'll be popular
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:29
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LOL yeah - it would be so funny . At the moment I don't like Rebecca but if she backs off Robert then I might start liking her one day .

To be honest I never liked Robert when he first came back into it - I thought it was a bit of a prat - but then when him and Aaron got together I began to really like him and now him and Aaron are my favourite characters
She is a bit similar to early Robert so there is hope for her yet lol
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:32
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It pisses me off when people try to compare the two. It's completely different. Yes Robert was with someone but he was the one who made the first move. He kissed Aaron and Aaron kissed back because he wanted Robert just as much as Robert wanted him. It was mutual. If Aaron had pushed Robert away and said he wasn't interested Robert would've backed off and that would've been the end of it. Sure he would've still wanted Aaron but he wouldn't continue trying to kiss him/sleep with him after being rejected. It was an affair, it was a mutual thing that they both wanted. Robert kept going to Aaron (most of the time looking for sex from him!) Most of the kisses were initiated by Robert. This with Rebecca is completely on her. Again Robert's with someone but he doesn't want her or want anything to happen. He's been rejecting her, he's made his feelings for her and what she's been trying to do perfectly clear. It isn't mutual, all of this is coming from Rebecca. Robert hasn't even been giving her mixed signals or anything, it's all in her head thinking that Robert will eventually give in.

I can't believe some people have been blaming Robert for this. I can't believe some people are comparing it to Robron's affair. It couldn't be more different. Oh yeah, I forgot Robert repeatedly rejected Aaron's advances at the beginning when Aaron kept trying it on with him and just wouldn't take no for an answer.... *rolls eyes*
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:04
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It pisses me off when people try to compare the two. It's completely different. Yes Robert was with someone but he was the one who made the first move. He kissed Aaron and Aaron kissed back because he wanted Robert just as much as Robert wanted him. It was mutual. If Aaron had pushed Robert away and said he wasn't interested Robert would've backed off and that would've been the end of it. Sure he would've still wanted Aaron but he wouldn't continue trying to kiss him/sleep with him after being rejected. It was an affair, it was a mutual thing that they both wanted. Robert kept going to Aaron (most of the time looking for sex from him!) Most of the kisses were initiated by Robert. This with Rebecca is completely on her. Again Robert's with someone but he doesn't want her or want anything to happen. He's been rejecting her, he's made his feelings for her and what she's been trying to do perfectly clear. It isn't mutual, all of this is coming from Rebecca. Robert hasn't even been giving her mixed signals or anything, it's all in her head thinking that Robert will eventually give in.
Yep we're talking about apples and oranges here. Rebecca and Robert aren't having an affair at least not at this point. The issue is apparently one of boundaries not infidelity. Rebecca wants a relationship. Robert apparently doesn't and has repeatedly made that clear. At least if it were an affair it would be mutual. This is just sexual harassment (apparently Lachlan isn't the only one with issues in this area in this family) so I'm not sure why the writers expect that to make her appealing as a character. I get that part of it is to show that Robert is serious about Aaron and create a bit of drama over Aaron finding out, but it seems to be coming at the expense of making Rebecca seem desperate and obnoxious which doesn't seem like the best way to make her appealing.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:15
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Yep we're talking about apples and oranges here. Rebecca and Robert aren't having an affair at least not at this point. The issue is apparently one of boundaries not infidelity. Rebecca wants a relationship. Robert apparently doesn't and has repeatedly made that clear. At least if it were an affair it would be mutual. This is just sexual harassment (apparently Lachlan isn't the only one with issues in this area in this family) so I'm not sure why the writers expect that to make her appealing as a character. I get that part of it is to show that Robert is serious about Aaron and create a bit of drama over Aaron finding out, but it seems to be coming at the expense of making Rebecca seem desperate and obnoxious which doesn't seem like the best way to make her appealing.
Yes I think that the issue there isn't any mutuality here. Aaron knew that he was hurting Chrissie but also that Robert wanted him. Its obvious that Rebecca wants Robert more than he wants her. I think if Robert did give in to Rebecca he would immediately regret that and feel pushed into it.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:28
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Yes I think that the issue there isn't any mutuality here. Aaron knew that he was hurting Chrissie but also that Robert wanted him. Its obvious that Rebecca wants Robert more than he wants her. I think if Robert did give in to Rebecca he would immediately regret that and feel pushed into it.
I don't think he'll give in to Rebecca at all. I think it will cause drama between Aaron and Robert but I fully expect Rebecca to give up sooner rather than later.

There's a fine line between going after something because it's a challenge/fun and making a fool of yourself. Rebecca is smart - she'll work out she's crossed over the fool threshold. Probably when Aaron points it out to her.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:44
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Yes I think that the issue there isn't any mutuality here. Aaron knew that he was hurting Chrissie but also that Robert wanted him. Its obvious that Rebecca wants Robert more than he wants her. I think if Robert did give in to Rebecca he would immediately regret that and feel pushed into it.
Exactly. Rebecca wants him but he certainly doesn't want her. Maybe he did 4 years ago but he hasn't since he met Aaron and definitely not now

I don't think he'll give in to Rebecca at all. I think it will cause drama between Aaron and Robert but I fully expect Rebecca to give up sooner rather than later.

There's a fine line between going after something because it's a challenge/fun and making a fool of yourself. Rebecca is smart - she'll work out she's crossed over the fool threshold. Probably when Aaron points it out to her.
Yeah, she's a bit slow at the moment!! Obviously the first time she tried it on with him and he rejected her by saying "when are you going to get it through to your head that I love Aaron"......"have you got no respect"......."you don't do it for me anymore".....hasn't registered yet that he's not interested . Hopefully this next rejection and the fact that he looks like he can't get away from her quickly enough sinks in that actually.....he's not interested.....and she recovers what little self respect she has left and backs off
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:59
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I don't think I would ever be interested in an affair story unless both the participants were actually into it. Kerry sleeping with Ross for instance is a tragic mess.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:06
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I'm not so sure why there is so much Rebecca hate. She is clearly just there to show us that Robert isn't keen on that stuff anymore. Once that's done with I'm sure she will move on to other things.
For me, it's just that rictus grin she wears all the time that gets me down. I just wish they'd be done with the whole Home Farm/Shooting/Framing/Lachlan nonsense. I doubt Lachlan will get sent down for it. For a story that will have no genuine conclusion they are really padding it out.

Lachlan is Kirin all over again. We are meant to believe he is a teenager but he has the guile, arrogance and chutzpah of a man atleast ten years older, and he doesn't even look much like a teenager.

One final bit of negativity - it they have to do Carry On style double-entendres could they find somebody other than "Jimmy" to deliver them?. He is no Sid James.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:23
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Thanks Kirsten

So Diane is disgusted with Robert?! Is this because he cheated on chrissie and not the plan as she didnt over hear everything.

I think lachlan will turn on mommy dearest at some point . He is definitely unhinged!
I wish Lachlan would either commit suicide (a pact with Ross would be a marvelous Thursday double) or just run away like the other oldest teenager in the business Kirin.

Sadly from what I have read they are going to have a suicide on Eastenders with Lee, who is a far nicer human being than the snivelling little worm Lachlan.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:27
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Next year Frank and Megan will be living in the Woolpack as ED new super couple mark my words.
With all due respect, Megan lost her raison d'etre after the death of Robbie and Frank is just another old roue (or dirty old man, if you prefer) in the "Rodney" mould - and they don't come much mouldier. They are two character for me you never miss if they are not around.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:32
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WhatsonTV Spoilers

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Old 08-11-2016, 04:34
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It's certainly not for text santa.. itv aren't doing it this year.

http://www.itv.com/textsanta
I have always said every cloud has a silver lining. Two hours less to see Mr. Schofield camping it up!
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:48
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Those WhatsonTV spoilers make more sense - so Diane likely heard/saw nothing, but is disgusted that Robert is talking with Rebecca when they are meant to be at war with the Whites.

Guess Diane isn't grateful to Bex for outting the secret or anything else. Doesn't seem like any member of the Sudgen family rates or trusts Rebecca or her "help".
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:27
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So Robert is so worried about Aaron seeing him with Rebecca they sit down on the sofa in his house for a drink? Very stealthy Robert. Very stealthy. Aaron has no chance of catching you in a dodgy looking situation
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:30
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With all due respect, Megan lost her raison d'etre after the death of Robbie and Frank is just another old roue (or dirty old man, if you prefer) in the "Rodney" mould - and they don't come much mouldier. They are two character for me you never miss if they are not around.
Its a joke Andy. I find them very dull. The purpose of that relationship is mostly as a sleep aid.
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:33
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So Robert is so worried about Aaron seeing him with Rebecca they sit down on the sofa in his house for a drink? Very stealthy Robert. Very stealthy. Aaron has no chance of catching you in a dodgy looking situation
Robert seems out of his depth with Rebecca. Interesting.
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