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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 10) |
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On the other hand, why? What reason? Why? I just want to know what the fascination is they seem to have with Rebecca being constantly a part of Roberts life and involved with him? Even after the times it was ridiculous for them to be that way.
Aaron "Your involvement with Rebecca has made me insecure about our relationship" Robert - *goes into business with her* lol It will happen. They will do it no doubt. ![]() It's not about Rebecca, Aaron is projecting his insecurities on to her, for him to heal he needs to address what is really causing the insecurity (his abuse) |
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Seriously Andy? It's called being a plot device. And the plot is Aaron being insecure and jealous which will probably (I'm guessing here) come to ahead around the time of the wedding. Robert and Rebecca are props for Aaron at this point. He is the focus of the story. Isn't that what you have always said you want, for Aaron to have stories where it is all about him? Well we had a year of Aaron as the focus and Robert the supporting player and we seem to be starting 2017 the same way and you still complain?
I just don't get it. If anyone should be complaining it's fans who favour Robert and Rebecca's fans (yes she has some) |
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Right and the answer to those insecurities is Robert staying away from her? That fixes the situation, that is healthy? If that is as deep as they go with it then we have problems.
It's not about Rebecca, Aaron is projecting his insecurities on to her, for him to heal he needs to address what is really causing the insecurity (his abuse) |
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Yes, it's a plot device that leads to Aaron getting in a bad way and their relationship needing crisis talks over it. So what's the excuse for her to still be involved and still causing grief after that?
If you know something more than that, please share it with the thread Andy because I can't have a fair discussion with someone who is privy to more info than I am, it's not cricket. |
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Well it doesn't hurt does it? She is the biggest physical problem so it would help and surely is the first thing you'd look at doing something about. (but apparently not in this case)
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With this whole Rebecca situation there is a bigger picture (I think or hope) - yes, she can be a Chucky Bride Morticia Witch, but she's almost insignificant to the true storyline, which is dealing with Aaron's insecurities.
If it wasn't Rebecca surfacing these insecurities, then it would be someone else, and it would keep on going through a vicious cycle without any resolution. At least they come to the surface via Rebecca, and have a chance to be resolved before they get married. |
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I'm just gonna wait to see how all these scenes unfold onscreen before I develop an opinion on Rebecca continuing to be involved in Feb or Robert's actions or Aaron's actions... or anything really....
lolRecently we've worried about things and they worked out better onscreen that we thought they would. We spent time on here unsure how ED could fix things, how they could make things better and they did and we were really happy with the scenes we got. I'm not gonna get too hung up about these spoilers. We don't even have the full spoilers yet and besides we know what spoilers are like
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How do we know she still causes grief after it? Are you letting slip spoilers for February here Andy? Because all I saw was Kirsten say that they share scenes which are strictly professional.
If you know something more than that, please share it with the thread Andy because I can't have a fair discussion with someone who is privy to more info than I am, it's not cricket. |
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I don't have any. But you mentioned in your post you thought that the story would last up to the wedding. so if his insecurity is not put to rest by these crisis talks...and R/R continue to work together......then that's not going to be helpful for Aaron is it?
As with anything it depends how it is played out and written, so I will be sensible and wait and see what happens next week and then through January and into February. What I do know is that they finally seem to be addressing Aaron's inner pain, so however they want to tell that story, whatever characters they use to move his story along, I am grateful and I am here for it. |
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Right and the answer to those insecurities is Robert staying away from her? That fixes the situation, that is healthy? If that is as deep as they go with it then we have problems.
It's not about Rebecca, Aaron is projecting his insecurities on to her, for him to heal he needs to address what is really causing the insecurity (his abuse) I hope they do not end up having a business together but knowing my luck...
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Yes i agree let's wait and see.
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No it's called sticking a plaster on an infected wound and hoping for the best. As I said earlier, Robert and Rebecca ceasing all contact (I mean what kind of a relationship do the boys have if these kind of conditions are being imposed on one half, how do they ever build trust? sorry I digress) is sweeping things under the carpet. We don't want it sweep under the carpet, or I certainly don't. We want Aaron's issues to stay on the surface so that they can be dealt with properly. If Rebecca continuing to be around it a plot device allowing this to happen, bring it on.
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For me yes, Aaron will be better with Robert staying away from her. Rebecca for me its an important part of Aaron insecurities. Aaron's insecurities have sprung up for her. She want Robert and Aaron knows it! She still has feelings for him! She tried two times with Robert. Rebecca has shown plenty of reasons for Aaron to feel insecure. We've all seen it.
I hope they do not end up having a business together but knowing my luck... ![]() |
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She may want Robert but she's made it clear that she knows she'll never have him and Aaron knows this. Part of Aaron's insecurities is that he can't understand Robert being bisexual - you can't blame Rebecca for that. The insecurities were already there on his part - she just brought them to the surface which is good because hopefully they'll get addressed
Well, i think I have already left my opinion clear and I dont want to repeat myself. As you said hopefully once and for all those insecurities will get addressed. Now Im gonna wait and see how everything happens.
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I get your point and I agree with part of it. I do feel that I can blame Rebecca because for me part of his insecurities of him have arisen by her. And as I said Rebecca is a part not all of his insecurities. Robert being bisexual is another part of his insecurities.
Well, i think I have already left my opinion clear and I dont want to repeat myself. As you said hopefully once and for all those insecurities will get addressed. Now Im gonna wait and see how everything happens. ![]()
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And it's a bonus if it means they're getting a lot of screen time
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Lots about Bex today on the thread!
I for one will shut up about her (for a bit, anyway) if someone can explain why we should want her anywhere near Robron, given what we have seen. EITHER She held a torch for Robert all those years and sincerely believed that she and he were a destined couple- in which case I cannot believe that she would just turn 180 degrees and say "OK then I accept that you are with Aaron so let's just be best mates" and will never try to seduce Robert again; OR She wasn't in love and was just trying the effect of her charms on Robert, even after he had told her that he was with Aaron. This would make it less likely that she will keep on trying but means she is a deeply immoral person, willing to break a relationship and injure someone who never did her any harm (Aaron) for the sake of a selfish indulgence. (OK: before anyone suggests it, I suppose there is a third alternative, that she is in love with Robert but now sees that Aaron is his soulmate and because she loves Robert and wants his eternal happiness more than anything she will renounce him; and moreover is so self-aware and mature that she can deliberately keep herself stably in Robert's orbit without either being dragged in by his irresistible gravitational pull or flung out into deep space....I can't see it )
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Lots about Bex today on the thread!
I for one will shut up about her (for a bit, anyway) if someone can explain why we should want her anywhere near Robron, given what we have seen. EITHER She held a torch for Robert all those years and sincerely believed that she and he were a destined couple- in which case I cannot believe that she would just turn 180 degrees and say "OK then I accept that you are with Aaron so let's just be best mates" and will never try to seduce Robert again; OR She wasn't in love and was just trying the effect of her charms on Robert, even after he had told her that he was with Aaron. This would make it less likely that she will keep on trying but means she is a deeply immoral person, willing to break a relationship and injure someone who never did her any harm (Aaron) for the sake of a selfish indulgence. (OK: before anyone suggests it, I suppose there is a third alternative, that she is in love with Robert but now sees that Aaron is his soulmate and because she loves Robert and wants his eternal happiness more than anything she will renounce him; and moreover is so self-aware and mature that she can deliberately keep herself stably in Robert's orbit without either being dragged in by his irresistible gravitational pull or flung out into deep space....I can't see it ) |
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I can't believe I have made over 100 posts since joining this thread just before Christmas - and I only came on basically to say thanks to you all for the entertaining posts over the past two years but that I couldn't see myself following the ups and downs of Robron in detail much longer...what have you people done to me?
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I can't believe I have made over 100 posts since joining this thread just before Christmas - and I only came on basically to say thanks to you all for the entertaining posts over the past two years but that I couldn't see myself following the ups and downs of Robron in detail much longer...what have you people done to me?
![]() ![]() ![]() I only came on to make a few points about the upcoming Katie death SL and 5500 posts I'm still here.
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She held a torch for Robert all those years and sincerely believed that she and he were a destined couple- in which case I cannot believe that she would just turn 180 degrees and say "OK then I accept that you are with Aaron so let's just be best mates" and will never try to seduce Robert again;
At this point she's really just a plot device so I'm not sure actual motivations need apply, but if I was considering her as an actual human being character with viable motivations and consistency I'd be thinking feelings don't just go away, especially when you've already supposedly held a torch for years. And breaking them up directly backfired so I'm assuming she's just changed tact really and is going the 'friend' route in the hopes that hanging out with Robert, getting into business with him and being friendly with Aaron will keep her in Robert's good graces and orbit and then hopefully if Aaron and Robert do break up she'll be there to pick up the pieces. I can't really see a person continuing to hang around the person they're in love with and ingratiating themselves more and more into their lives if they really wanted to get over them. I don't really think that's a good recipe for getting over someone if you're being genuine about it and plot reasons aside there's no real reason for her to continue to hang around Robert beyond wanting to. I wonder if the show will ever address it or just ignore it. It seems kind of weird that they want to suggest her feelings for him if they're just going to ignore it since her feelings aren't ultimately relevant to Aaron's insecurities.But like I said plot devices don't really have motivations so whatever. |
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At this point she's really just a plot device so I'm not sure actual motivations need apply, but if I was considering her as an actual human being character with viable motivations and consistency I'd be thinking feelings don't just go away, especially when you've already supposedly held a torch for years. And breaking them up directly backfired so I'm assuming she's just changed tact really and is going the 'friend' route in the hopes that hanging out with Robert, getting into business with him and being friendly with Aaron will keep her in Robert's good graces and orbit and then hopefully if Aaron and Robert do break up she'll be there to pick up the pieces. I can't really see a person continuing to hang around the person they're in love with and ingratiating themselves more and more into their lives if they really wanted to get over them. I don't really think that's a good recipe for getting over someone if you're being genuine about it and plot reasons aside there's no real reason for her to continue to hang around Robert beyond wanting to. I wonder if the show will ever address it or just ignore it. It seems kind of weird that they want to suggest her feelings for him if they're just going to ignore it since her feelings aren't ultimately relevant to Aaron's insecurities.
But like I said plot devices don't really have motivations so whatever.
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At this point she's really just a plot device so I'm not sure actual motivations need apply, but if I was considering her as an actual human being character with viable motivations and consistency I'd be thinking feelings don't just go away, especially when you've already supposedly held a torch for years. And breaking them up directly backfired so I'm assuming she's just changed tact really and is going the 'friend' route in the hopes that hanging out with Robert, getting into business with him and being friendly with Aaron will keep her in Robert's good graces and orbit and then hopefully if Aaron and Robert do break up she'll be there to pick up the pieces. I can't really see a person continuing to hang around the person they're in love with and ingratiating themselves more and more into their lives if they really wanted to get over them. I don't really think that's a good recipe for getting over someone if you're being genuine about it and plot reasons aside there's no real reason for her to continue to hang around Robert beyond wanting to. I wonder if the show will ever address it or just ignore it. It seems kind of weird that they want to suggest her feelings for him if they're just going to ignore it since her feelings aren't ultimately relevant to Aaron's insecurities.
But like I said plot devices don't really have motivations so whatever. |
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Hi all. Just wondering if everyone has voted in this
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...unks-2016-poll It's Danny you need to vote for ![]() He's second at the moment so come on guys
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I;m all for Aaron having a story and his feelings being dealt with. Of course i want him on screen and am happy about that aspect. But i don't have to like Rebecca or her being involved with Rebecca. I can like that it's giving him a story without having to like one of the aspects of it.
Also let's hope it does get dealt with, because most of the time Aaron's issues are raised and then glossed over. Plus, i'm very uncomfortable with the idea this will all carry on through to the wedding. So what, are any nice happy things going to be tinged with the knowledge Aaron is really struggling and probably just acting fine and thinking in the back of your mind about how he's probably going to end up having second thoughts and not turning up? Romantic
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