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Old 29-12-2016, 21:42
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Great post. I was thinking the other day that Ste & Brendan never got the chance to develop a totally rock solid relationship before they were torn apart. They had some very passionate scenes but Brendan had only just sorted himself out so it was still very messy. (And now the writers just put Ste with anyone and there's no chemistry or convincing passion there) The contrast with Robert & Aaron in watching their relationship grow and get stronger and stronger has been just lovely, so I hope the latest storyline doesn't undermine it and makes them stronger still when they overcome it.
Yes I admit to being quite disappointed at how Stendan ended. Maybe I had built it up too much in my head but when they got together I really thought it would be them against the world type thing and it didn't really work out like that. They had such a short time together and too many obstacles were thrown at them.

I really don't think this latest stuff will undermine Robron at all and I am actually quite looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
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Old 29-12-2016, 21:54
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Yes I admit to being quite disappointed at how Stendan ended. Maybe I had built it up too much in my head but when they got together I really thought it would be them against the world type thing and it didn't really work out like that. They had such a short time together and too many obstacles were thrown at them.
Ste and Brendan had great chemistry, but it was hard for me to get into that relationship with how violent Brendan was to Ste even towards the end. I could never really root for them to be together, but I enjoyed watching the actors work together.

Hollyoaks has always been a sexy show and it's aimed at a younger audience on a channel that's always been about pushing the envelope so I'm not surprised their sex scenes even their gay sex scenes are sexier than anything you'd get on Emmerdale which skews older and more conservative. They could probably do a bit more. Sometimes it does feel like they go out of their way not to show Robert and Aaron in intimate scenes.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:16
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Yes I admit to being quite disappointed at how Stendan ended. Maybe I had built it up too much in my head but when they got together I really thought it would be them against the world type thing and it didn't really work out like that. They had such a short time together and too many obstacles were thrown at them.

I really don't think this latest stuff will undermine Robron at all and I am actually quite looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
Yes, they had issues to face pretty much every week they appeared onscreen from the moment they became a proper couple. Also once we'd found out that Emmett Scanlan would be leaving we had about 2 months viewing knowing they were about to be split up...Even now if I come across their last scene together (long emotional speech by Ste in the hospital) I find it a hard watch!

I hope you're right and I wish I would stop thinking ahead too much on what's coming up for Robron, I know it couldn't always be plain sailing for them anyway otherwise they'd end up as background characters which would never work.
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:27
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I just watched

Wow Becky and Ross belong together for sure lol

Anyway, i liked the Jimmy and Nicola scenes so cute.

And so Becky is more popular than Chrissie i wish It was true. My gosh She is so annoying. Everything about her is
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:33
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Originally Posted by Coldwater2020;84997664[B
]Ste and Brendan had great chemistry, but it was hard for me to get into that relationship with how violent Brendan was to Ste even towards the end. I could never really root for them to be together, but I enjoyed watching the actors work together.[/b]

Hollyoaks has always been a sexy show and it's aimed at a younger audience on a channel that's always been about pushing the envelope so I'm not surprised their sex scenes even their gay sex scenes are sexier than anything you'd get on Emmerdale which skews older and more conservative. They could probably do a bit more. Sometimes it does feel like they go out of their way not to show Robert and Aaron in intimate scenes.
It's a strange one with Stendan because as you say there was Brendan's violence towards Ste in the way. I only started rooting for them after Brendan underwent well-written/acted character development and then THAT Dublin bridge scene aired. Then when he beat Ste again just before his exit I was SO very disappointed, but ultimately they tried to portray that it was unacceptable behaviour and Brendan's father's reappearance did him some serious damage. I hope that doesn't sound like I'm justifying it - I would never. There's a wonderful fic writer who touches upon the domestic violence and does it in a way that explores Brendan's thoughts without justifying him in any way.

Anyway I shall stop rambling about them now and remind myself that this is a Robron thread If Emmerdale take issue with showing Aaron & Robert in more passionate scenes, I would settle for more intimate in terms of affection, like the scenes we got in Maxine's latest Robron episode
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:15
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Really? Best look back at the rest of the posts. It seems that the majority of the posts on here are still about Rebecca I thought we'd all moved on from that subject It's like this thread has changed from the Robron appreciation thread to the Rebecca thread
I find it quite interesting that Rebecca has generated such a visceral reaction, to such an extent that it has overtaken the appreciation of the characters we claim to love so much. Not sure what it says about the faith and understanding that we have in the Robert and Aaron relationship if we feel so threatened by her...

Do we have such a lack of trust in Robert, that he will fall for her feminine wiles despite his rejections, with no indication of her trying to seduce him again?

Do we misunderstand Aaron so much, to not know that Rebecca is just a reflection of his insecurities as oppose to the root cause?

It's the tests that are put in the way of Robert and Aaron's relationship that reveal so much more about them, and actually strengthen the relationship - maybe we should focus on that, because that's all Rebecca is - a test, one that they will ultimately pass
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:31
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It's a strange one with Stendan because as you say there was Brendan's violence towards Ste in the way. I only started rooting for them after Brendan underwent well-written/acted character development and then THAT Dublin bridge scene aired. Then when he beat Ste again just before his exit I was SO very disappointed, but ultimately they tried to portray that it was unacceptable behaviour and Brendan's father's reappearance did him some serious damage. I hope that doesn't sound like I'm justifying it - I would never. There's a wonderful fic writer who touches upon the domestic violence and does it in a way that explores Brendan's thoughts without justifying him in any way.

Anyway I shall stop rambling about them now and remind myself that this is a Robron thread If Emmerdale take issue with showing Aaron & Robert in more passionate scenes, I would settle for more intimate in terms of affection, like the scenes we got in Maxine's latest Robron episode
I get why people enjoyed them even with the violence, but it was definitely hard to take sometimes and the way they ended was kind of rushed for obvious reasons.

It's a bit hard to talk about current Aaron and Robert storylines without talking about Rebecca since she's so meshed in them even if it's just as a plot point. Even Chas and Liv can't be involved without involving her so it's no surprise she keeps coming up.

Do we misunderstand Aaron so much, to not know that Rebecca is just a reflection of his insecurities as oppose to the root cause?
Depends how it's ultimately written, I suppose. I'm beginning to suspect the writers are confusing jealousy with insecurity though and they're not always necessarily the same thing. But I guess we'll see how it ultimately plays out.
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:34
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I just watched

Wow Becky and Ross belong together for sure lol

Anyway, i liked the Jimmy and Nicola scenes so cute.

And so Becky is more popular than Chrissie i wish It was true. My gosh She is so annoying. Everything about her is
I heard Kasim and Finn break up because of Emma. Why does Emma turn on him? I know she hates Leyla, but she was encouraging Kasim to move in a minute ago.
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:52
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I find it quite interesting that Rebecca has generated such a visceral reaction, to such an extent that it has overtaken the appreciation of the characters we claim to love so much. Not sure what it says about the faith and understanding that we have in the Robert and Aaron relationship if we feel so threatened by her...

Do we have such a lack of trust in Robert, that he will fall for her feminine wiles despite his rejections, with no indication of her trying to seduce him again?

Do we misunderstand Aaron so much, to not know that Rebecca is just a reflection of his insecurities as oppose to the root cause?

It's the tests that are put in the way of Robert and Aaron's relationship that reveal so much more about them, and actually strengthen the relationship - maybe we should focus on that, because that's all Rebecca is - a test, one that they will ultimately pass
Of course i have faith in Robron i have never thought otherwise.
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Old 29-12-2016, 23:58
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I just watched

Wow Becky and Ross belong together for sure lol

Anyway, i liked the Jimmy and Nicola scenes so cute.

And so Becky is more popular than Chrissie i wish It was true. My gosh She is so annoying. Everything about her is
I just watched too, in case I was being too harsh about the recent story lines. I wasn't.

The whole singles event thing was bad beyond belief.
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Old 30-12-2016, 00:33
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Rebecca: "I'm more popular than you Chrissie cos I want everyone to come to my big party while you just want a quiet family dinner just because your son is in prison at Christmas Oh yeah he's my nephew but there you go just chill can't you and be a bit kookie like me did I ever tell you Robert said I was better in bed than you and way better than Aaron I expect anyway that is what he would say Oh hello Ross nice dance moves can I be your girlfriend please ...."
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Old 30-12-2016, 00:35
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I find it quite interesting that Rebecca has generated such a visceral reaction, to such an extent that it has overtaken the appreciation of the characters we claim to love so much. Not sure what it says about the faith and understanding that we have in the Robert and Aaron relationship if we feel so threatened by her...

Do we have such a lack of trust in Robert, that he will fall for her feminine wiles despite his rejections, with no indication of her trying to seduce him again?

Do we misunderstand Aaron so much, to not know that Rebecca is just a reflection of his insecurities as oppose to the root cause?

It's the tests that are put in the way of Robert and Aaron's relationship that reveal so much more about them, and actually strengthen the relationship - maybe we should focus on that, because that's all Rebecca is - a test, one that they will ultimately pass
I totally agree with you. We know that Rebecca isn't a threat to them, that's been made clear on numerous occasions, and Aaron's insecurities cannot be blamed solely on her because they were always there, she's just brought them to the surface, which in my book is a good thing because at least hopefully they'll be dealt with rather than brushed under the carpet. Yes we know that she'll be sharing scenes with both Robert and Aaron but we don't know to what extent. For all we know they could be minimal scenes - we won't know until these episodes have aired so it's a case of wait and see! Since it's been established that there's not going to be an affair storyline and that Rebecca finally knows that nothing will ever happen between her and Robert then I'm not that bothered about her sharing scenes with either of them. I will be glad though when she shares scenes with other people and then this thread can go back to the Robron appreciation thread that we all know and love
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Old 30-12-2016, 00:52
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OK now I have taken my medication....

Robert loves Aaron
Aaron loves Robert
Viewers love Robron
Producers love viewers
Nothing else matters

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Old 30-12-2016, 00:57
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OK now I have taken my medication....

Robert loves Aaron
Aaron loves Robert
Viewers love Robron
Producers love viewers
Nothing else matters

LOL - this should be our mantra from now on
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Old 30-12-2016, 01:09
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OK now I have taken my medication....

Robert loves Aaron
Aaron loves Robert
Viewers love Robron
Producers love viewers
Nothing else matters

Amen
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Old 30-12-2016, 01:32
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OK now I have taken my medication....

Robert loves Aaron
Aaron loves Robert
Viewers love Robron
Producers love viewers
Nothing else matters

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Old 30-12-2016, 01:37
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Old 30-12-2016, 03:40
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Old 30-12-2016, 04:20
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Not voting to teach ED a lesson and stop splitting up couples or because you don't like one family is petty. All soaps do this and will continue to do so.

I would also say the quality in 2016 was better than last year. I assume you've been watching ED for years? I can think of a few years where the show was truly dire. This is not one of them
They are probably the most inventive, if not bizarre: Whoever else would hold a singles night in a village pub on a Thursday lunchtime?

In my experience, the countryside doesn't stop for ten days at Xmas and most of them would be back at work by now. There are very few singles in Emmerdale anyway

Joannie's haymaker to Tommy was not without relevance though: in Carry On Loving (1970) Patsy Roland ("Miss. Dempsey") did exactly the same thing to Bernard Breslaw who played "Gripper Burke" a heavyweight wrestler.

I have to say Coronation Street has far more stories, somewhat more plausible
stories and always has more going on in the average episode good and bad.

Sorry Poppys but there has been some really desperate stuff going down for months, and many of the actors seems to lack conviction in delivering their lines.
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Old 30-12-2016, 04:28
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It's a strange one with Stendan because as you say there was Brendan's violence towards Ste in the way. I only started rooting for them after Brendan underwent well-written/acted character development and then THAT Dublin bridge scene aired. Then when he beat Ste again just before his exit I was SO very disappointed, but ultimately they tried to portray that it was unacceptable behaviour and Brendan's father's reappearance did him some serious damage. I hope that doesn't sound like I'm justifying it - I would never. There's a wonderful fic writer who touches upon the domestic violence and does it in a way that explores Brendan's thoughts without justifying him in any way.

Anyway I shall stop rambling about them now and remind myself that this is a Robron thread If Emmerdale take issue with showing Aaron & Robert in more passionate scenes, I would settle for more intimate in terms of affection, like the scenes we got in Maxine's latest Robron episode
Am I allowed to say that I found the relationship sickening because of "Brendan's" physical abuse, not just to Ste but to anybody that got in his way. The man was a self-pitying whining thug, who couldn't even take his punishment IRL he would have gone down fighting instead of simpering and cowering away in a police cell.I wanted him shot off that balcony either by the police or better still his own hand. He was a bog standard Hollyoaks serial killer and violent criminal with no special qualities whatsoever

I also found the actor who played him a terribly pretentious and precious actor laddie of the worst sort. He really thought he was a great actor. I wonder if he is still "hanging round the pool in L.A." as he airily described it the week he left.
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Old 30-12-2016, 04:50
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They are probably the most inventive, if not bizarre: Whoever else would hold a singles night in a village pub on a Thursday lunchtime?

In my experience, the countryside doesn't stop for ten days at Xmas and most of them would be back at work by now. There are very few singles in Emmerdale anyway

Joannie's haymaker to Tommy was not without relevance though: in Carry On Loving (1970) Patsy Roland ("Miss. Dempsey") did exactly the same thing to Bernard Breslaw who played "Gripper Burke" a heavyweight wrestler.

I have to say Coronation Street has far more stories, somewhat more plausible
stories and always has more going on in the average episode good and bad.

Sorry Poppys but there has been some really desperate stuff going down for months, and many of the actors seems to lack conviction in delivering their lines.
I agree the last few episodes have been far below average. I never said every character and storyline was great.

But i think we'll have do agree to disagree that 2015 was better overall than 2016.
2015 gave us endless Ross, every thursday night double was a shock event (robert hired a hitman fgs), all the affairs and robron were barely interacting for half the year.

I am all for constructive criticism but if this is going to turn into the I hate emmerdale thread then i'll be happy not to continue reading and participating.
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Old 30-12-2016, 07:28
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I agree the last few episodes have been far below average. I never said every character and storyline was great.

But i think we'll have do agree to disagree that 2015 was better overall than 2016.
2015 gave us endless Ross, every thursday night double was a shock event (robert hired a hitman fgs), all the affairs and robron were barely interacting for half the year.

I am all for constructive criticism but if this is going to turn into the I hate emmerdale thread then i'll be happy not to continue reading and participating.
Same

And agree with you about 2016. It's so much better than last year

This thread is less and less about robron appreciation. It seem people only want to talk about rebecca and how the show is horrible 😴
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Old 30-12-2016, 07:33
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I find it quite interesting that Rebecca has generated such a visceral reaction, to such an extent that it has overtaken the appreciation of the characters we claim to love so much. Not sure what it says about the faith and understanding that we have in the Robert and Aaron relationship if we feel so threatened by her...

Do we have such a lack of trust in Robert, that he will fall for her feminine wiles despite his rejections, with no indication of her trying to seduce him again?

Do we misunderstand Aaron so much, to not know that Rebecca is just a reflection of his insecurities as oppose to the root cause?

It's the tests that are put in the way of Robert and Aaron's relationship that reveal so much more about them, and actually strengthen the relationship - maybe we should focus on that, because that's all Rebecca is - a test, one that they will ultimately pass
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Old 30-12-2016, 08:19
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I agree the last few episodes have been far below average. I never said every character and storyline was great.

But i think we'll have do agree to disagree that 2015 was better overall than 2016.
2015 gave us endless Ross, every thursday night double was a shock event (robert hired a hitman fgs), all the affairs and robron were barely interacting for half the year.

I am all for constructive criticism but if this is going to turn into the I hate emmerdale thread then i'll be happy not to continue reading and participating.
No, I wouldn't want that either. I know I have been one of those critical of recent episodes and of Rebecca yet that doesn't mean I have lost sight of Robron. But Robron aren't on screen at the moment for us to react to, which leaves us with the alternatives of finding something fresh to say about what happened in the past or speculating on their future. I'd be happy to read someone's new insights or comments on old Robron storylines, if they have them. As for the future, we don't have much to go on apart from a) they're having a wedding; b) it won't go smoothly for them in the run up; c) they're getting a house together with Liv. We also know that Bex is a main trigger for some unhappiness between them (even if there is a deeper source of Aaron's insecurity) and this springs from Bex's unattractive determination to be close to Robert. So it is natural that people will try to work out what makes Bex tick.
I worry about the quality of episodes in general as it could ultimately cross over into poorer writing for Robron (and the reciprocated Bex kiss might have been an early sign of that). If ED becomes a less impressive drama, Ryan and Danny might decide it isn't good for their careers to stay with it very long term. And that would be the end of Robron and the point of my existence (slightly exaggerating for effect here, folks )
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Old 30-12-2016, 09:06
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