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Andy_Marlowe
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From the picture it is clear that Finn turns down Robert's pleas even though Robert is wearing
a) his purple patterned shirt
b) his sexy Italian leather jacket
c) his quiffy hair

Obviously Finn has lost his soul and is doomed to the same circle of the Inferno as mad Emma.
I expect to be upset by certain characters,(Zac, Cain, Liv, Kerry, whining Lisa etc etc) but I have become very disappointed in "Finn",he has always been insecure, unsure of himself and rather lonely, but he has become a conniving clingy mummy's boy, and desperate rather than tragic. He will try to make Kasim "jealous", a human "quality" I despise and what for? - Kasim by his own admission, isn't interested in Finn, so how can you make somebody jealous when they are unconcerned?, and he is involving third parties in his schemes. A bit like "Christian and Roxy" years ago, it's a shame that Finn a gay lad spends so much time with straight women. Time for Mr. Gill's P45, I fear: he will probably go do-lally when he finally discovers what Emma did to James.

One final point about the Robert/Rebecca friendship. Yes she kissed him and he told her he wasn't interested, but they remain friends. Many years ago, on a cold December night Aaron tried to kiss Adam, and was rebuffed. A & A have remained close friends, so we have to give R & R the benefit of the doubt too. Whereas A & A are friends for totally "pure" reasons, I suspect R & R remain pals for financial motives, and that is all there is to it.
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I expect to be upset by certain characters,(Zac, Cain, Liv, Kerry, whining Lisa etc etc) but I have become very disappointed in "Finn",he has always been insecure, unsure of himself and rather lonely, but he has become a conniving clingy mummy's boy, and desperate rather than tragic. He will try to make Kasim "jealous", a human "quality" I despise and what for? - Kasim by his own admission, isn't interested in Finn, so how can you make somebody jealous when they are unconcerned?, and he is involving third parties in his schemes. A bit like "Christian and Roxy" years ago, it's a shame that Finn a gay lad spends so much time with straight women. Time for Mr. Gill's P45, I fear: he will probably go do-lally when he finally discovers what Emma did to James.
I'm with you on this. I used to think Finn would develop into an interesting character but I have written him off, even before the upcoming dramas.
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One final point about the Robert/Rebecca friendship. Yes she kissed him and he told her he wasn't interested, but they remain friends. Many years ago, on a cold December night Aaron tried to kiss Adam, and was rebuffed. A & A have remained close friends, so we have to give R & R the benefit of the doubt too. Whereas A & A are friends for totally "pure" reasons, I suspect R & R remain pals for financial motives, and that is all there is to it.
I don't think the cases are parallel. Adam is straight and that is his nature; it is relatively easy for Aaron to accept that he will never take the place of a woman in Adam's life and can therefore settle for a platonic friendship. Robert is bi and the only reason he is not available for Bex is because of his love for Aaron. Aaron could fall under a bus tomorrow, or Robert could fall out of love with him, and Robert would become available. Therefore her hanging around inevitably leads to suspicions she is waiting for, or even engineering, Aaron's removal. If she were a right-thinking person she would move away.
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I know you are a big fan of Roberts but this analysis of him and this storyline is just not right.

You keep insisting that he has had a personality transplant. How?

Because he is friends with Rebecca after what she did in the pub? Well he has also proven to be very loyal to people he cares about. He obv cares for her as he was very understanding when she tried to blackmail him. He enjoys spending time with her. Maybe he even feels guilty for leading her on.

Or is it because he can't sense that aaron is an emotional wreck atm? This is also not new. Many times in their relationship he has been insensitive to Aaron's feelings. A lot of that was during the affair but also recently during Gordon's trial, they went on a date and he kept talking about Andy & Chrissie. Robert often has this kind of tunnel vision.

I agree there are elements of this story that are plotty. But the same can be said for any storyline and i'm happy to push them aside because of the emotional payoff we get. And i'm sure we will get that with this.

Both Aaron and Robert are making matters worse for themselves. Aaron is not communicating and burying his feeling until he will quite literally explode. Robert is lying cause he doesn't want to cause more drama. Ultimately though the reasons behind both of their actions is because they love eachother
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We will have to see how it all goes down but i'm very uneasy about Robert lying about having a drink with Rebecca. It doesn't look good at all and i just don't like it. It's the same with Robert pretty much challenging Aaron to have a problem with him spending a night away with Rebecca. I didn't like that at all because it was almost forcing him not to have a problem with it or else look unreasonable and cause a massive problem and it put Aaron in a difficult and upsetting situation that ultimately made him make the Manchester thing up.

I just don't really get why Rebecca is such a difficult thing for Robert to give up or compromise over...even when it's causing his fiance stress and upset, when it's causing him to lie, and even when it ultimately gets his fiance arrested and facing prison because it's effecting him that bad. Why is that relationship seemingly so important and indestructible?

The thing that worries me as well is that this whole thing is going to be glossed over. It all comes to a head with an argument and crisis talks but then in come the police to arrest Aaron and suddenly none of that matters because it all goes off in a new direction where they could lose each other so it's just full steam ahead with the wedding. So actually are any of these issues actually going to be sorted? Or are they just setting up for this relationship and marriage to fail?

As you can probably tell...i'm struggling.
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I don't think the cases are parallel. Adam is straight and that is his nature; it is relatively easy for Aaron to accept that he will never take the place of a woman in Adam's life and can therefore settle for a platonic friendship. Robert is bi and the only reason he is not available for Bex is because of his love for Aaron. Aaron could fall under a bus tomorrow, or Robert could fall out of love with him, and Robert would become available. Therefore her hanging around inevitably leads to suspicions she is waiting for, or even engineering, Aaron's removal. If she were a right-thinking person she would move away.
More than that she's shown she's willing to try and break them up if she thinks she can get away with it so while she seems to be playing nice these days and she may even be genuine, I can't fault Aaron for being wary.
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With all due respect, I suspect that Eastenders already has this years awards in the bag. New producer (from the unlikely source of The Archers!), and very strong performances from the actors who play the parts of "Phil", for his illness and battle with the bottle, "Ben" for his performances following the death of his boyfriend, and "Lee" for his battle with depression and descent into crime. I am not a fan of EE and certainly not of "Phil", but these are hard-hitting stories, and they have added a new one to the brew this week with the sudden widowhood of "Jack", and a double drowning.

I say that with no pleasure but I don't think overall Emmerdale has been as strong in 2016.
Like you, I don't watch Eastenders. I gave up on it years ago because I became tired of the negative tones that seemed to dominate most storylines. I will occasionally watch an episode or 2 particularly when my family are visiting as they were over Christmas.

I was hugely impressed with the quality of the product being regularly delivered by Eastenders. They easily deserve to win the bulk of TV awards.
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More than that she's shown she's willing to try and break them up if she thinks she can get away with it so while she seems to be playing nice these days and she may even be genuine, I can't fault Aaron for being wary.
I guess Robert has forgotten all that happened, just a few short weeks ago, between him, Aaron and Rebecca.

But that really doesn't matter. All that matters is that Rebecca, Robert and whoever else is required play their parts in safely delivering Aaron into the hands of the police and into another dark and emotionally storyline. Emmerdale need Danny Miller to win those awards and he really is their best chance.
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