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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 10)
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ASRRAS
Yesterday, 11:07
Originally Posted by Partygirl1:
“Oh do we know for sure Robert and Rebecca are still working together when will it end sigh. Unless the jealousy is just the tip and after Aaron arrest he is working on his feelings and not so bothered about Robert and Rebecca friendship. Though I don't trust Rebecca at all. I can't see how Robron relationship can survive if Aaron is so bothered about Rebecca and Robert friendship. Maybe Robert needs to know he trusts him.”

If I'm not mistaken I think Kirsten said that in the first week of February they continued to work together.

I don't trust her at all!! Probably my hatred for her blinds me and I do not see the same things as the rest but I do not think she really cares that Aaron can go to jail. We will see to see what happens because as I said it is very probable that I am wrong
andy614
Yesterday, 11:12
Will Aaron arrive at H/F thinking he's going to catch Robert and Rebecca in the act? Is that what it is?
Partygirl1
Yesterday, 11:17
Originally Posted by ASRRAS:
“If I'm not mistaken I think Kirsten said that in the first week of February they continued to work together.

I don't trust her at all!! Probably my hatred for her blinds me and I do not see the same things as the rest but I do not think she really cares that Aaron can go to jail. We will see to see what happens because as I said it is very probable that I am wrong ”

Oh thank you I think she is trouble too. I don't how much more Robert and Rebecca scenes I can stand. Imagine if her and Chrissie have cooked this up together to cause trouble with Robron. Rebecca stays friends and is involved with Robert and Chrissie makes Aaron feel really insecure that Robert will cheat.
Puppy Dog Eyes
Yesterday, 11:18
Originally Posted by Poppys:
“not sure if everyone else already spotted this and i was just slow, but i've just seen it pointed out that the twitter message Isobel Steele sent to Danny is the same thing Liv said to Aaron last night.

You're only 26,you've got your whole life behind you

just replace 26 with 25”

Yeah, I noticed that - so sweet
Windy_City
Yesterday, 11:18
Im intrigued because it seems like they are both messing up. I thought it would just be Aaron being paranoid and messing up. I do think Robert lies about the drink because he is tired of not being trusted. Things seem to snowball.

I dont like Bex and never will but I dont dislike her as much. Chrissie bugged me more yesterday.
amy_ryan1
Yesterday, 11:19
Originally Posted by Partygirl1:
“Aww thanks hun. Yes Robert actions are not helping. Lying especially. I just intrigued to where it goes. I have to say I loathe those pictures of Rebecca and Robert at Home Farm. I dont why as they are innocent. But is she going to witness Robert laying into Aaron and their row. Oh awful. I know Aaron gets arrested and into trouble which is terrible but at least it makes Robert realise how much he loves him and makes him more determined to marry Aaron. Though please please when are we going to get jealous Robert.”

Oh I do hope they don't row in front of Bex.. I think Robert's working at HF, tells Aaron he's still working & Aaron will go there looking for him when he obviously see's them sat having a drink. I think that's what will start Robert off.. the fact Aaron has come looking for him which is probably how the trust talk comes up again when they row.
EddyBee
Yesterday, 11:20
Originally Posted by ASRRAS:
“If I'm not mistaken I think Kirsten said that in the first week of February they continued to work together.

I don't trust her at all!! Probably my hatred for her blinds me and I do not see the same things as the rest but I do not think she really cares that Aaron can go to jail. We will see to see what happens because as I said it is very probable that I am wrong ”

Of course she doesn't care if Aaron goes to jail. Rebecca is only being 'nice' to Aaron because she knows that Robert will have nothing to do with her if she is once again unpleasant to him. As an ex-lover that remains obsessive she will do whatever it takes to stay close to the object of obsession.

Rebecca had to be converted by the writers into an allegedly nice character so that they could justify Robert being her friend so that the 2 of them could continue to cause emotional problems for Aaron. This is so ridiculously far-fetched but anyway this is what we are getting.
ASRRAS
Yesterday, 11:21
Originally Posted by Partygirl1:
“Oh thank you I think she is trouble too. I don't how much more Robert and Rebecca scenes I can stand. Imagine if her and Chrissie have cooked this up together to cause trouble with Robron. Rebecca stays friends and is involved with Robert and Chrissie makes Aaron feel really insecure that Robert will cheat.”

Wow that would be a big twist!!
andy614
Yesterday, 11:27
Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“Im intrigued because it seems like they are both messing up. I thought it would just be Aaron being paranoid and messing up. I do think Robert lies about the drink because he is tired of not being trusted. Things seem to snowball.

I dont like Bex and never will but I dont dislike her as much. Chrissie bugged me more yesterday.”

Which is fine....if all this gets resolved. But i fear all this is being done just to get to the drama of the arrest and then it suddenly becomes all about that rather than all the problems that made it happen in the first place. You cant have them in crisis talks over their relationship one minute then something happening to suddenly make them forge ahead with a wedding asap. It's either incredibly bad storytelling or a recipe for disaster down the line...
amy_ryan1
Yesterday, 11:31
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Of course she doesn't care if Aaron goes to jail. Rebecca is only being 'nice' to Aaron because she knows that Robert will have nothing to do with her if she is once again unpleasant to him. As an ex-lover that remains obsessive she will do whatever it takes to stay close to the object of obsession.

Rebecca had to be converted by the writers into an allegedly nice character so that they could justify Robert being her friend so that the 2 of them could continue to cause emotional problems for Aaron. This is so ridiculously far-fetched but anyway this is what we are getting.”

I think Bex seems to have magically moved on from Robert.. she doesn't seem jealous or bothered by Robron anymore considering how obsessed she was with him.. which is good as I couldn't do with it but it's far fetched really.

Imo the only realistic part of this story is Aaron's feelings about it all, Robert & Bex's side of things I don't find believable.
Lucie_Girard
Yesterday, 11:32
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Of course she doesn't care if Aaron goes to jail. Rebecca is only being 'nice' to Aaron because she knows that Robert will have nothing to do with her if she is once again unpleasant to him. As an ex-lover that remains obsessive she will do whatever it takes to stay close to the object of obsession.

Rebecca had to be converted by the writers into an allegedly nice character so that they could justify Robert being her friend so that the 2 of them could continue to cause emotional problems for Aaron. This is so ridiculously far-fetched but anyway this is what we are getting.”

Well if they try to convert her It is an epic fail because She more annoying than ever

For me anyway

Anyway She certainly didn't convert me at all.
Windy_City
Yesterday, 11:33
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Which is fine....if all this gets resolved. But i fear all this is being done just to get to the drama of the arrest and then it suddenly becomes all about that rather than all the problems that made it happen in the first place. You cant have them in crisis talks over their relationship one minute then something happening to suddenly make them forge ahead with a wedding asap. It's either incredibly bad storytelling or a recipe for disaster down the line...”

I have that worry too but Im hopeful it will be dealt with in some way. I dont think they are setting up the marriage to fall. Not at all.

I do think the trust thing might never be 100% dealt with because its a soap and they gotta get their drama some where. And Roberts past does work against him. Whether thats fair or not.
andy614
Yesterday, 11:33
I don't have so much of an issue with Rebecca. I actually think she seems to genuinely quite like Aaron, has at least in the main accepted the situation and she sat there not batting eyelid to Robron kissing and being romantic.
andy614
Yesterday, 11:42
I think as well that actually Aaron does trust Robert in the main. He just has an issue with internal voices telling him to worry, and in some cases, external voices like Chas, Chrissie ect ect. He doesn't want to feel like this and knows how much Robert loves him and is devoted to him but it's just how his brain works. I think we all have moments of worry, panic, being pessimistic over something we actually know we don't need to be deep down. Its just ten fold for Aaron and this situation.

I think the problem is that Robert doesn't see that. He just see's Aaron being jealous and thinking the worst of him, rather than really realising what's underneath all that.
Windy_City
Yesterday, 11:44
Originally Posted by andy614:
“I don't have so much of an issue with Rebecca. I actually think she seems to genuinely quite like Aaron, has at least in the main accepted the situation and she sat there not batting eyelid to Robron kissing and being romantic.”

Yeah Im the same. I dont like her but I dont think she is the problem anymore. i.e wants to break them up or anything.

I wonder what Danny's announcement will be? lol of course some think he is leaving ED.
amy_ryan1
Yesterday, 11:44
Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“I have that worry too but Im hopeful it will be dealt with in some way. I dont think they are setting up the marriage to fall. Not at all.

I do think the trust thing might never be 100% dealt with because its a soap and they gotta get their drama some where. And Roberts past does work against him. Whether thats fair or not.”

Yes I agree. I can't see it been completely resolved. I think this trust stuff will probably come up time & time again.. it's the one thing that the show can really use as a drama thing with Robron. It's a realistic issue aswell.
andy614
Yesterday, 11:48
Hmmmm.

Danny's news. Well it's something official if it's being announced at a specific time...

I'm not sure he's be allowed to tease a leaving announcement though or anything like that and his tweet probably doesn't really indicate something like that.
amy_ryan1
Yesterday, 11:59
I think what I struggle with in this story is alot of people including Danny, Iain, fans & others talk about how Aaron's insecurities come from the abuse & Aaron not believing he's good enough for anyone.. which that's true as Aaron has that self doubt about himself especially with what he's been through. But I'm just not getting that with this story & imo Aaron's issues would be the same in alot of people in the situation he's in with Rob at the minute.. Aaron wasn't showing any signs of worry before finding out about Bex & Robs history, before any of this he trusted Robert.

Maybe i'm missing something but I'm not getting the Aaron needs help to deal with his childhood issues before he & Robert can lay this mess to bed type of thing.
EddyBee
Yesterday, 12:00
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Hmmmm.

Danny's news. Well it's something official if it's being announced at a specific time...

I'm not sure he's be allowed to tease a leaving announcement though or anything like that and his tweet probably doesn't really indicate something like that.”

Did he say when he would announce it?
Windy_City
Yesterday, 12:03
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Did he say when he would announce it? ”

6 pm

I dont think he is leaving. But maybe the part we wont like is time away from ED? for whatever reason. IDK.
Melephunk2010
Yesterday, 12:05
Are Finn & Kasim back together at this point of Aaron being arrested? Maybe that's another reason why Finn refuses to help Robert out. His relationship with Kasim has ended so he's got it into his head that Robron's should end too.... Now I know this seems really petty & weird, but that's what we've been getting for Finn lately so it wouldnt surprise me.

He'd probably agree to help on the condition Robert gets Kasim to give thier relationship another go or something.
Randomguy83
Yesterday, 12:06
Originally Posted by amy_ryan1:
“I think what I struggle with in this story is alot of people including Danny, Iain, fans & others talk about how Aaron's insecurities come from the abuse & Aaron not believing he's good enough for anyone.. which that's true as Aaron has that self doubt about himself especially with what he's been through. But I'm just not getting that with this story & imo Aaron's issues would be the same in alot of people in the situation he's in with Rob at the minute.. Aaron wasn't showing any signs of worry before finding out about Bex & Robs history, before any of this he trusted Robert.

Maybe i'm missing something but I'm not getting the Aaron needs help to deal with his childhood issues before he & Robert can lay this mess to bed type of thing.”

I think some talk about Aaron's issues in this way as it's an esteem thing. Aaron doesn't think he's worth loving or being with so he's quick to assume Robert wants to 'escape' from him. Obviously this isn't true as Robert just wouldn't be with him but try convincing someone with psychological issues of that.

What's frustrating for me in all this is that if they'd only communicate more/better this whole thing could be avoided but then they need the story so it's a catch 22 in some ways.

Chas even advises Aaron to say something which im betting he doesn't but lets it fester and spin into deeper paranoia.

I can personally see why Robert lies (he knows it's innocent and he's not doing anything wrong but it would cause unnecessary upset and arguing) just like I can see why Aaron lied last night but both of them are idiots for not communicating and it needs saying.
Andy_Marlowe
Yesterday, 12:07
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Like you, I don't watch Eastenders. I gave up on it years ago because I became tired of the negative tones that seemed to dominate most storylines. I will occasionally watch an episode or 2 particularly when my family are visiting as they were over Christmas.

I was hugely impressed with the quality of the product being regularly delivered by Eastenders. They easily deserve to win the bulk of TV awards. ”

I watch stories from Eastenders on You Tube (I couldn't bear to sit through all the cocker-nee “gor blimey guvnor we're fami-lee” stuff), but I have been very impressed by Steve McFadden's performance as a near-to-death alcoholic, who can also manage still to be a monster to his loved ones, (a character I really don't like - he is Cain manque, or vice versa') and especially with Danny Hatchard's understated performance of “Lee” and his descent into depression, he manages to conjour up the hopelessness, the sheer exhausting attempt to just get through each day, and the subtle change from extrovert squaddie to burdened unhappy civilian: Many ex-army men are prone to depression after leaving the services. I am very sorry some of the shows “fans” are so dismissive of this actor, and indeed his whole family (the Carters). The actor who plays “Ben” isn't in the Danny Miller league (I think Danny Hatchard is), but he really pulled out all the stops in his anger, bewilderment and pain at losing his partner.
Melephunk2010
Yesterday, 12:08
Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“6 pm

I dont think he is leaving. But maybe the part we wont like is time away from ED? for whatever reason. IDK.”

Could fit into a prison sentence if that's the outcome of the storyline?

I do wonder what it is though. What could be exciting for him but not for us?? I can understand why that would ring alarm bells with some people tbh.

Maybe he's engaged to Gemma or something?? ha ha!
amy_ryan1
Yesterday, 12:08
Originally Posted by Windy_City:
“6 pm

I dont think he is leaving. But maybe the part we wont like is time away from ED? for whatever reason. IDK.”

I don't think it will be anything concerning I think Danny's probably got a busy time ahead with work.. weddings & all that lol. Hopefully anyway.
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