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Emmerdale: Aaron Dingle and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 10)
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Andy_Marlowe
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lucie_Girard:
“lol I assume that it's not worth watching because people would talk about it.”

Frankly, no it wasn't it was another episode I ditched as we reached end of part one, because I didn't want the hammy "real Whites" and that frightful old woman going on about "eat your pie", so I junked the recording.

The excuse for lacklustre scripts in August and September was that they were "gearing up for the big October stunt".

I assume the excuse for the p*ss poor scripts this week is the fact that everyone was tired after the big "stunt".

You have, if you want to produce six episodes each week, to ensure a high quality in every script, every week. Clearly Emmerdale can't handle that, so they revert to a comfort blanket of Chester proportions, with random affairs (Sam/Kerry), somebody (Pryia) condoning a criminal (Rakesh) and far too much Lisa and Zac. Lisa is their geriatric version of the ghastly "Myra McQueen" an interfering, hectoring old gorgon, all mouth and no trousers.

God knows how they will eke out interest for the customary two episodes tonight. I will probably not even bother with it.
amy_ryan1
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Well yeah Aaron's jealousy in this situation is because he's chosen to be with Robert and he has a past. Has Robert done anything to cause this jealousy?

If Aaron wanted to not have that kind of jealousy he could be with someone like Finn who's past is more sedate.”

Seriously

Weather people are exaggerating or not it's mad to say that jealousy is caused by the type of person you've choose to be with..! For me that's completely false.
razzamatazz0911
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by amy_ryan1:
“Seriously

Weather people are exaggerating or not it's mad to say that jealousy is caused by the type of person you've choose to be with..! For me that's completely false.”

I think jealousy comes from all sorts of places. Sometimes it's justified (your instinct trying to tell you something is wrong), sometimes it comes from your own insecurities and previous experiences that you've had - with that person and with other people.

In Aaron's case, it's probably not justified in relation to Rebecca and her antics (because Robert isn't going to cheat on him). But it comes from his own insecurities about himself (and being enough) as well as his past experience with, and insecurities caused by, Robert. So while it's not justified, it is understandable. Aaron and Robert have come a long, long way since they hit rock bottom in their relationship (the Lodge) but some wounds take a long time to completely heal.
amy_ryan1
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by razzamatazz0911:
“I think jealousy comes from all sorts of places. Sometimes it's justified (your instinct trying to tell you something is wrong), sometimes it comes from your own insecurities and previous experiences that you've had - with that person and with other people.

In Aaron's case, it's probably not justified in relation to Rebecca and her antics (because Robert isn't going to cheat on him). But it comes from his own insecurities about himself (and being enough) as well as his past experience with, and insecurities caused by, Robert. So while it's not justified, it is understandable. Aaron and Robert have come a long, long way since they hit rock bottom in their relationship (the Lodge) but some wounds take a long time to completely heal.”

I agree
Partygirl1
03-11-2016
Morning all, does anyone know what's happened to Duncan from the Metro twitter page, I can't seem to get on it. Nothing comes up? Regarding Aaron jealousy I can totally see why he will feel jealous, insecure and worried. I guess Robert will reassure him again but then when Aaron finds out about the kiss it will bring it all back up again.
razzamatazz0911
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by Partygirl1:
“Morning all, does anyone know what's happened to Duncan from the Metro twitter page, I can't seem to get on it. Nothing comes up? Regarding Aaron jealousy I can totally see why he will feel jealous, insecure and worried. I guess Robert will reassure him again but then when Aaron finds out about the kiss it will bring it all back up again.”

He's changed his twitter name from 'Our_manPLA' to 'DuncanLindsay' - if you search for the second name you should find him.
andy614
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by stripycow:
“What if Aarons mostly just jealous because he cant be as useful (in this circumstance) to Robert and Diane as Rebecca can?”

I think this will be part of it. We know he get's jealous even before Rebecca starts really getting involved with the Sugdens as a family, so it can't help that she'll be all helpful and everyone will be all grateful to her. I've said before, it would be very easy for Aaron to start getting the feeling that she's basically invading his life with Robert and almost 'replacing' him and feeling a bit of an outsider.

That's not to say he has any actual genuine reason to be threatened or feel like that, but as has been said, you can't control how you feel and what you think when jealousy comes into things.
andy614
03-11-2016
Also btw, the idea that people are overstating the jealousy and it's not a big deal. Erm, it is a big deal. It's not going to be one scene of Aaron's seeming a little bit jealous. Its a significant part of this story line and Aaron will feel genuinely threatened and unhappy with R/R, and going forward to.

I don't really understand where the idea this isn't even something to give any thought to or really bother with comes from?
Partygirl1
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by razzamatazz0911:
“He's changed his twitter name from 'Our_manPLA' to 'DuncanLindsay' - if you search for the second name you should find him.”

Thank you so much.
razzamatazz0911
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“I think this will be part of it. We know he get's jealous even before Rebecca starts really getting involved with the Sugdens as a family, so it can't help that she'll be all helpful and everyone will be all grateful to her. I've said before, it would be very easy for Aaron to start getting the feeling that she's basically invading his life with Robert and almost 'replacing' him and feeling a bit of an outsider.

That's not to say he has any actual genuine reason to be threatened or feel like that, but as has been said, you can't control how you feel and what you think when jealousy comes into things.”

Agreed. The reality is, while Robert and co might be grateful to Rebecca, that's it. She's still very much the outsider trying to get a look-in on Robert and Aaron's little family. Robert isn't about to let her get close and threaten what he's got with Aaron. Aaron may not see the reality of it however.
Partygirl1
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Also btw, the idea that people are overstating the jealousy and it's not a big deal. Erm, it is a big deal. It's not going to be one scene of Aaron's seeming a little bit jealous. Its a significant part of this story line and Aaron will feel genuinely threatened.

I don't really understand where the idea this isn't even something to give any thought to ir really bother with comes from?”

Poor Aaron, I hope he doesn't start to think Robert would be better with Rebecca. We all know that is ridiculous but insecurity is a terrible thing and if everyone is so greatful to Rebecca he might feel she can do more to help then him. Not saying anyone will make him feel this way. Just his own feelings about it. If that makes sense xxx
razzamatazz0911
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Also btw, the idea that people are overstating the jealousy and it's not a big deal. Erm, it is a big deal. It's not going to be one scene of Aaron's seeming a little bit jealous. Its a significant part of this story line and Aaron will feel genuinely threatened and unhappy with R/R, and going forward to.

I don't really understand where the idea this isn't even something to give any thought to or really bother with comes from?”

You mean the approximately two weeks of storyline that this covers before Robert and Aaron disappear offscreen for a week and when they get back, Aaron knows about the kiss and he and Robert are still together?

And while Aaron may feel threatened, it's not like Rebecca is an actual threat, since Robert won't be cheating on Aaron (and only wants Aaron). Maybe that's why people don't see it as a big deal.
ArtyAttack
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by razzamatazz0911:
“You mean the approximately two weeks of storyline that this covers before Robert and Aaron disappear offscreen for a week and when they get back, Aaron knows about the kiss and he and Robert are still together?

And while Aaron may feel threatened, it's not like Rebecca is an actual threat, since Robert won't be cheating on Aaron (and only wants Aaron). Maybe that's why people don't see it as a big deal.”

Who says it only covers two weeks of storyline though? Has that been confirmed?
andy614
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by razzamatazz0911:
“You mean the approximately two weeks of storyline that this covers before Robert and Aaron disappear offscreen for a week and when they get back, Aaron knows about the kiss and he and Robert are still together?

And while Aaron may feel threatened, it's not like Rebecca is an actual threat, since Robert won't be cheating on Aaron (and only wants Aaron). Maybe that's why people don't see it as a big deal.”

Well we all know there is a potential wedding next year, so does that mean anything in the meantime isn't a big deal? You live in the moment, invest in the characters and feelings and storylines in the moment, surely not base your feelings/importance of it based on what you know is coming up or how it resolves?

The jealousy thing is clearly supposed to be a big deal in the moment and a significant part of the story line, so i treat it as such. Not just think it doesn't matter cus i know it must work out ok in the end. It's about investing in the characters emotions and feelings in storylines and episodes and responding to those. Aaron, a character we all i assume are invested in, is going to feel like this as have these issues, he see's it as a big deal so as the viewer so i do i.

Fair enough if others don't i guess.

Also, in actual fact we don't know this is resolved at all, as Arty said above. Does Aaron knowing about the kiss make any difference? In fact it could make the jealousy even worse and even more of an issue going forward. Especially if Robert still doesn't want to stop working with her.

They have done this for a reason, there will be a point to it. I imagine it will lead somewhere. I doubt it's all exists to "not be a big deal" i don't think soaps really work like that.
Fhionnuisce
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by Andy_Marlowe:
“Aaron needs to remember that two weeks ago Robert was prepared to die, rather than leave Aaron to drown in that car alone. When Aaron was (understandably) pushing him away in the wake of the Gordon reveal and abuse story Robert said he would wait for him and he did. If he was so sexually desperate he had his pick of several women,or Finn, but he didn't.. He even bought 2 rings so that Aaron would be spared the expense of buying Robert one himself.

If Robert was Ross you could understand the concern, but he isn't”

yea all of this and that's where I'm staying
laoghaire
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Good evening all.



Thanks for setting up part 10. ”

You're welcome!
laoghaire
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“new thread yay but the old one isn't closed yet and my phone was going straight to it so people with shortcuts might not know ”

Sorry about this. Still waiting for the forum staff to close it.
Partygirl1
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Well we all know there is a potential wedding next year, so does that mean anything in the meantime isn't a big deal? You live in the moment, invest in the characters and feelings and storylines in the moment, surely not base your feelings/importance of it based on what you know is coming up or how it resolves?

The jealousy thing is clearly supposed to be a big deal in the moment and a significant part of the story line, so i treat it as such. Not just think it doesn't matter cus i know it must work out ok in the end. It's about investing in the characters emotions and feelings in storylines and episodes and responding to those. Aaron, a character we all i assume are invested in, is going to feel like this as have these issues, he see's it as a big deal so as the viewer so i do i.

Fair enough if others don't i guess.

Also, in actual fact we don't know this is resolved at all, as Arty said above. Does Aaron knowing about the kiss make any difference? In fact it could make the jealousy even worse and even more of an issue going forward. Especially if Robert still doesn't want to stop working with her.

They have done this for a reason, there will be a point to it. I imagine it will lead somewhere. I doubt it's all exists to "not be a big deal" i don't think soaps really work like that.”

So where do you think it will lead if you don't mind me asking please?
andy614
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by Partygirl1:
“So where do you think it will lead if you don't mind me asking please?”

No idea really
Lmack
03-11-2016
Maybe they're just showing Aaron to be jealous because it's perfectly natural and true to character as well.They are creating a bit of drama for this storyline as that's what they do
abrightyz
03-11-2016
wow!! a new thread!!
abrightyz
03-11-2016
so aaron gets jealous of rebecca?
abrightyz
03-11-2016
shit is gonna hit the fan
abrightyz
03-11-2016
i wonder what is it that makes aaron jealous?
abrightyz
03-11-2016
is the wedding still on?
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