Is the OP Steve Brookstein?
The X Factor: The Real Truth on the Scandals and Fixing claims you don't know about!
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This is laughable.
Yes there is some manipulation and whatnot.
But you'd have to be an idiot to think they had pre-selected most of the people who have won to win.
Secondly. the 'secret auditions' you speak of are not only not secret but very much OPEN TO EVERYONE! Here's an ad featuring Dermot inviting people to them this year: http://www.itv.com/xfactor/news/call...his-years-show
Also these are done at the after the open auditions, not before as you claim.
Thirdly, in regards to voting, in case you haven't noticed (given the above, probably not), most voting is now *FREE* via the app. Syco makes little money - if any - on the leftovers of the diminishing phone vote. Syco and Thames get their money from ITV to make the show. ITV then sell ads and sponsorship across and around the production.
Yes there is some manipulation and whatnot.
But you'd have to be an idiot to think they had pre-selected most of the people who have won to win.
Secondly. the 'secret auditions' you speak of are not only not secret but very much OPEN TO EVERYONE! Here's an ad featuring Dermot inviting people to them this year: http://www.itv.com/xfactor/news/call...his-years-show
Also these are done at the after the open auditions, not before as you claim.
Thirdly, in regards to voting, in case you haven't noticed (given the above, probably not), most voting is now *FREE* via the app. Syco makes little money - if any - on the leftovers of the diminishing phone vote. Syco and Thames get their money from ITV to make the show. ITV then sell ads and sponsorship across and around the production.
Originally Posted by nessie17:
“Funny i had exactly the same thought!!”
“Funny i had exactly the same thought!!”
Is Gifty not on the plane to LA yet?
Originally Posted by KDTheKid:
“I love how everybody thinks that the OP is Gifty That has certainly made my morning!
Some interesting points made by the OP but like others have said, all the opinions and information written by the OP has been debated on in many other threads, so it's nothing particularly new we're reading. Though, It really wouldn't surprise me if the show was actually fixed. 
”
“I love how everybody thinks that the OP is Gifty
That has certainly made my morning!Some interesting points made by the OP but like others have said, all the opinions and information written by the OP has been debated on in many other threads, so it's nothing particularly new we're reading. Though, It really wouldn't surprise me if the show was actually fixed.
”
or he who can't be named. SB has been quiet moany /bitchy on Twitter lately
Originally Posted by kobiashimarux:
“SB has been quiet moany /bitchy on Twitter lately”
“SB has been quiet moany /bitchy on Twitter lately
”
When is he not.
Actually, there are privately scouted acts who have "meetings" and sing for the producers pre show. The skip cattle call if chosen, and will almost certainly make at least bootcamp solo rounds. These acts usually have fan bases,experience, and enough talent to get attention.
On the rare occasion that an act with little to no experience makes it far-ish, they usually get told to come back another season and try again, and rarely do well,even if amazing.
On the rare occasion that an act with little to no experience makes it far-ish, they usually get told to come back another season and try again, and rarely do well,even if amazing.
Originally Posted by kobiashimarux:
“or he who can't be named. SB has been quiet moany /bitchy on Twitter lately”
“or he who can't be named. SB has been quiet moany /bitchy on Twitter lately
”
I really wouldn't be surprised if the OP could also be SB too!! It could be also Ryan Ruckledge from last year's X Factor and Celebrity Big Brother!! He has apparently claimed before many times that the show is a fix!
Thanking you all for reading my topic and having your say, but me being Gifty, give over lol
You can believe what you want to be fair, but if i have an honest say to shine a little light on here and you choose to think this isn't 100% coming from me, be that as it may.
No no no, I'm referring to the secret auditions before that date. That link you gave is only for the bands (including the singers who couldn't do the third round due to being over time at ExCeL London and some other venues nation wide. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
Finally, I think we are all missing the point here (as in not only the people who are fixed to win this year) but the public being used like puppets to take part in these fake auditions session and splashing out money for a show when there is already a winner to start off with.
Also, the music scene with is filled with The X factor nonsense and real music by true artists.
Originally Posted by Singy Thingy:
“The "Whats Really Going On" thread in these forums, which I did not start but chose to speak out in, covers a lot you touched on in more detail,, Mr Truth, but also, covers much you missed and clears up what you misinformed about(for instance, many acts are not already signed, though they are scouted. Also,the producers generally have a few acts in mind for the show and a specific type of act, but do not pick who to invest in etc until the actual process has begun.
Honestly, your post has as much misinformation as it does information.I admit to wondering weather you pieced things together and posted your best guesses(admittedly good ones if so for someone who clearly does not have much if any inside info) or were sent here to write it to try to distracts from the "Whats really going on " thread. If the former, you are on the right track and that thread may fill in some blanks for you...if the latter, nice try , but plenty of people here already know better.
As for pHoney G not winning, you should know they want a male pop act if you know "the truth".”
“The "Whats Really Going On" thread in these forums, which I did not start but chose to speak out in, covers a lot you touched on in more detail,, Mr Truth, but also, covers much you missed and clears up what you misinformed about(for instance, many acts are not already signed, though they are scouted. Also,the producers generally have a few acts in mind for the show and a specific type of act, but do not pick who to invest in etc until the actual process has begun.
Honestly, your post has as much misinformation as it does information.I admit to wondering weather you pieced things together and posted your best guesses(admittedly good ones if so for someone who clearly does not have much if any inside info) or were sent here to write it to try to distracts from the "Whats really going on " thread. If the former, you are on the right track and that thread may fill in some blanks for you...if the latter, nice try , but plenty of people here already know better.
As for pHoney G not winning, you should know they want a male pop act if you know "the truth".”
You can believe what you want to be fair, but if i have an honest say to shine a little light on here and you choose to think this isn't 100% coming from me, be that as it may.
Originally Posted by spkx:
“This is laughable.
Yes there is some manipulation and whatnot.
But you'd have to be an idiot to think they had pre-selected most of the people who have won to win.
Secondly. the 'secret auditions' you speak of are not only not secret but very much OPEN TO EVERYONE! Here's an ad featuring Dermot inviting people to them this year: http://www.itv.com/xfactor/news/call...his-years-show
Also these are done at the after the open auditions, not before as you claim.
Thirdly, in regards to voting, in case you haven't noticed (given the above, probably not), most voting is now *FREE* via the app. Syco makes little money - if any - on the leftovers of the diminishing phone vote. Syco and Thames get their money from ITV to make the show. ITV then sell ads and sponsorship across and around the production.”
“This is laughable.
Yes there is some manipulation and whatnot.
But you'd have to be an idiot to think they had pre-selected most of the people who have won to win.
Secondly. the 'secret auditions' you speak of are not only not secret but very much OPEN TO EVERYONE! Here's an ad featuring Dermot inviting people to them this year: http://www.itv.com/xfactor/news/call...his-years-show
Also these are done at the after the open auditions, not before as you claim.
Thirdly, in regards to voting, in case you haven't noticed (given the above, probably not), most voting is now *FREE* via the app. Syco makes little money - if any - on the leftovers of the diminishing phone vote. Syco and Thames get their money from ITV to make the show. ITV then sell ads and sponsorship across and around the production.”
No no no, I'm referring to the secret auditions before that date. That link you gave is only for the bands (including the singers who couldn't do the third round due to being over time at ExCeL London and some other venues nation wide. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
Finally, I think we are all missing the point here (as in not only the people who are fixed to win this year) but the public being used like puppets to take part in these fake auditions session and splashing out money for a show when there is already a winner to start off with.
Also, the music scene with is filled with The X factor nonsense and real music by true artists.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Fixed stage invasion.
Desperate for any publicity.”
“Fixed stage invasion.
Desperate for any publicity.”
You were very quick to shout down other forum members calls of fix on your beloved Strictly yet are quite happy to jump on the bandwagon here.
Rather hypocritical methinks.. ...
You know what? I've never bought an X-Factor winner's single, although I've watched every season. The reason? I'd rather they did an original single. I think they attempted that with Shane Ward, but the single was terrible.
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“You were very quick to shout down other forum members calls of fix on your beloved Strictly yet are quite happy to jump on the bandwagon here.
Rather hypocritical methinks.. ...”
“You were very quick to shout down other forum members calls of fix on your beloved Strictly yet are quite happy to jump on the bandwagon here.
Rather hypocritical methinks.. ...”
He always calls the x factor over on the ratings thread, even though they claim they dont like the x factor.... never shuts up about it though!!
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Fixed stage invasion.
Desperate for any publicity.”
“Fixed stage invasion.
Desperate for any publicity.”
How do you know it was fixed?
Oh yes that's right, you don't.
Originally Posted by Mr_Truth:
“Thanking you all for reading my topic and having your say, but me being Gifty, give over lol....
Also, the music scene with is filled with The X factor nonsense and real music by true artists.”
“Thanking you all for reading my topic and having your say, but me being Gifty, give over lol....
Also, the music scene with is filled with The X factor nonsense and real music by true artists.”
Yeah, Little Mix, Olly Murs and James Arthur are doing well in the charts but they are all pretty good it so happens.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Fixed stage invasion.
Desperate for any publicity.”
“Fixed stage invasion.
Desperate for any publicity.”
Ok, Gifty. Get to work on your album now.
Originally Posted by Carole2512:
“You know what? I've never bought an X-Factor winner's single, although I've watched every season. The reason? I'd rather they did an original single. I think they attempted that with Shane Ward, but the single was terrible.”
“You know what? I've never bought an X-Factor winner's single, although I've watched every season. The reason? I'd rather they did an original single. I think they attempted that with Shane Ward, but the single was terrible.”
Fair enough
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Why don't you get a life...”
“Why don't you get a life...”
....what like the gullible people who think the program is a fair competition. You know they have removed the word 'gullible' from the dictionary don't you?
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