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Well, if nothing else this thread made for some amusement with all the frothing and indignation by the Android ubėrfans to the very idea that the iPhone was any kind of game changer or pioneer device...
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My apologies, I should have been more explicit with my question.
Would you like to tell us why you simply posted a link to an article about Facebook Safety Check? If not I think we need say no more. ![]() |
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i am not going to through all of the post, it is far too much.
But a couple of things, you can see what noise a phone/tablet or any other electronic audio equipment puts out with the right equipment, it is called signal to noise ratio, all audio equipment produce noise, some worse than others. Iphone like other phones and tablets put out a lot, you need to use some good filtering and noise reduction to get rid of it. No doubt Taylor Swift have access to studios that can do it, but it is a pain for the smaller producers. Quote:
As for telling people what they can buy, I have never done that, I just think people are sometimes pushed into buying things they do not need As for BMWs, never owned one, but been in a few, my brother-in laws little Suzuki swift is more comfortable. so the long and short of it is you are making assumptions and statements based on little to no experience of owning the products you are talking about |
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so the long and short of it is you are making assumptions and statements based on little to no experience of owning the products you are talking about
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I half agree with you, but it wasn't just the multi touch, it was the way the OS and apps took advantage of it.
Symbian did more than iPhone at the time, with more customisation, apps, widgets, side loading potential, Bluetooth file transfer etc etc - but the UI was poor. Apps generally cost a fortune (calendar apps for £10+ were commonplace) and it was all disjointed and ultimately helped lead to the downfall of Symbian, both in Series 60 and UIQ form (the latter at least having been touchscreen based from day one, while Nokia bodged S60 badly). I know the history as I lived and worked through it. Apple was a gamechanger, but so was Android in its own way. Android was being developed, like iOS, to compete with what was already out on the market - not as a quick rush job to copy Apple! I mean, Android started out in 2003 and given Apple's immense ability to keep things secret then (less so now) do you really think it was just a case of finding out what Apple was doing and copying it? Plus Android had widgets, pull down notifications and all that - albeit quite primitively from day one. Apple didn't even get that sort of stuff until relatively recently. There is no doubting that the industry as a whole did copy a lot of the best aspects of iOS. More recent Windows OS builds are certainly designed in a totally different way to Windows of old. Touchscreens and multi-touch have changed that. Now Apple and others have force-touch (and as you know, Huawei beat Apple to release a phone with that, even if they never really did much with it) and we move on. Still, like when we went off topic with the MacBook, I am not sure how Android vs iPhone is relevant to a discussion that I assume was about the huge profit margins of the latest flagship phones (from everyone) and whether people really need to spend that much in a lot of cases (while acknowledging that people are free to do so if they want). |
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the prada phone was little like the iphone in real terms of usage. it was a terrible phone to use
The iphone did indeed change the game up, but it wasn't perfect by any means. Quote:
it's not garbage at all. you are clutching at straws now. i never said it was the first phone with that shape, did i?
Yes you did! I quote:- Quote:
andriod is basically a copy of IOS and most smartphones since the iphone have copied the same basic style. don't you remember the various shapes and styles of phones before the iphone? look in a carphone warehouse today and notice most of the phones resemble the basic shape of the first iphone, with an operating system that also resembles the first version of IOS So not only are you saying Android copied iOS, you are saying manufacturers copies the iphones shape and design.however since the iphone there are fewer phones of different shapes. if you actually remember the time before the iphone came out you had clamshell phones and phones like the nokia n95 or whatever it was, which was one of the best phones at the time. since the iphone most smartphones follow the same basic principles, don't they? Not very good at this are you?!! ![]() Quote:
clutching at straws again. android copied IOS in the first place remember
You really are clueless Android (before google bought it) was in development for years before the iphone came out! 2005 actually. But you won't know anything about that will you? Apple have copied nearly everything from Android yet bitch when anyone copies something from them! Quote:
more clutching at straws. yes you can change the look
Is this all you can say?NO YOU CAN'T. Apart from change the wallpaper, you cannot change the rows and rows of icons. You cannot add widgets to the screen. You can change basically nothing. So your iphone looks like everyone elses! Quote:
nope. and kind of did and actually did are differnt things. more clutching at straws
Again the same comment!! Not doing well are we?Quote:
i did bother to read, but rather than jump to conclusions, misquote and end up wrong, as many others do, i prefer to ask questions to obtain information before replying. the long and short of it appears to be that you made the decision to buy an iphone over the competition and do so again, so at the time you surely couldn't have considered the phones to be subpar. comparing old models to new ones isn't a like for like comparisson
Jesus!! You didn't bother to read at all did you, because you STILL havent read what i said properly!!!I said to you that the 4S (apart from the blue grey tint to the screen) and 5S i liked. Now however, they just seem the same. Design is crap and iOS looks dated and boring. They are now subpar which is what i said to start with. |
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Well, if nothing else this thread made for some amusement with all the frothing and indignation by the Android ubėrfans to the very idea that the iPhone was any kind of game changer or pioneer device...
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Has anyone said that? Or are you just trolling again?
You can't even be reading your own posts... lol |
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You can't be reading the same thread.
You can't even be reading your own posts... lol All i see is me countering someones elses lies and wrong opinions. Is that classed as trolling now? And a rabid apple fan (you, by the way) agreeing with another apple fan who doesn't have a clue how anything in the mobile world actually happened, which in turn makes you look clueless! So, yeah...... lol..... |
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It was actually a very good phone at the time to use. It pre dates the iphone and in fact, the iphone looked like that. It could also send picture messages where the iphone could not.
The iphone did indeed change the game up, but it wasn't perfect by any means. however if you've read about the history of the iphone and ipad you will know that they were both in development for a long time. so prove the prada phone came first. certainly the iphone was announced first as for it being a "very good phone at the time to use" that's simply subjective. personally i liked the idea of the phone at the time but declined to buy it as the hands on experience i had was poor. on the other hand i had absolutely no intention of buying an iphone and looked at pretty much every smart phone model in stores at the time with the intention of buying a phone to browse online, but all had some issues or another, but given a iphone to try i instantly got used to it and liked it, and bought it the next day after giving it consideration Quote:
Yes you did! I quote:- So not only are you saying Android copied iOS, you are saying manufacturers copies the iphones shape and design. Not very good at this are you?!!
YOU are the one who's not just not very good at this, but have completely failed Quote:
You really are clueless Android (before google bought it) was in development for years before the iphone came out! 2005 actually. But you won't know anything about that will you?
can you prove andriod didn't copy IOS? i doubt it Quote:
Apple have copied nearly everything from Android yet bitch when anyone copies something from them! Quote:
Is this all you can say? NO YOU CAN'T. Quote:
Apart from change the wallpaper, you cannot change the rows and rows of icons. You cannot add widgets to the screen. You can change basically nothing. So your iphone looks like everyone elses! in addition to changing the background wallpaper you can change the lock screen, you can change notifications, and you can rearrange icons. depending on which version of IOS you have and if you have jailbroken the phone you can change it further, including putting more icons on the bottom row and changing the size of the icons Quote:
Again the same comment!! Not doing well are we? Quote:
Jesus!! You didn't bother to read at all did you, because you STILL havent read what i said properly!!! Quote:
I said to you that the 4S (apart from the blue grey tint to the screen) and 5S i liked. Now however, they just seem the same. Design is crap and iOS looks dated and boring. They are now subpar which is what i said to start with. wrong again. have a read what you actually said Quote:
For the record, i have had several iphones, own 2 ipads and am typing this on a Macbook Pro. I have nothing against apple, but there phones are subpar at best. The rest is great.
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Show me where i said that please..
All i see is me countering someones elses lies and wrong opinions. Is that classed as trolling now? And a rabid apple fan (you, by the way) agreeing with another apple fan who doesn't have a clue how anything in the mobile world actually happened, which in turn makes you look clueless! So, yeah...... lol..... you seem to be the one proving that you don't have a clue you've also misquoted and posted a number of factually false things which i've highlighted and it's not just me noticing this, but other posters too |
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I love the demand for proof, without any proof whatsoever that Android back in 2003/4 was copying secret plans from Apple! Or LG, or anyone else.
And that nobody had phones with grids of icons, downloadable apps, and higher spec features (bar multi touch) like 3G, vastly superior cameras with flash etc. While the UI won over the general public that had never been interested in smartphones before, the iPhone 2G was otherwise pretty awful in so many ways. The 3GS was probably the real turning point for many. |
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Well, we all know when Moses came down with the 10 commandments, they were on an Android tablet, that's how old Android is
![]() Any opinion that Apple did anything innovative is just heresy! All they do is copy and Android is the preferred OS of God and St Peter.
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iOS and Apple's pricing for apps (69 cents for an app) was revolutionary. No developers before had ever considered such low pricing, or to get support from a store (albeit with Apple taking a nice cut).
Later when Rovio introduced IAPs (although I think it did so first on Nokia phones) we had the moment where it wasn't about the hardware but the app ecosystem. Apple dominated this for many years. Until recently all apps were released on iOS first came often not on Android at all. Such was Apple's dominance - which no longer exists to anywhere near the same degree. Nobody is failing to give Apple credit here, but the claim that it invented the smartphone is preposterous! |
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Nobody is failing to give Apple credit here, but the claim that it invented the smartphone is preposterous! Mind you a doubt Apple would fall over themselves to correct such serious errors as it tends to make them look good. |
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iOS and Apple's pricing for apps (69 cents for an app) was revolutionary. No developers before had ever considered such low pricing, or to get support from a store (albeit with Apple taking a nice cut).
Later when Rovio introduced IAPs (although I think it did so first on Nokia phones) we had the moment where it wasn't about the hardware but the app ecosystem. Apple dominated this for many years. Until recently all apps were released on iOS first came often not on Android at all. Such was Apple's dominance - which no longer exists to anywhere near the same degree. Nobody is failing to give Apple credit here, but the claim that it invented the smartphone is preposterous! They clearly have their heads up apples backside and will refuse to listen to anything at all! |
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as well as making a basic spelling/grammer mistake that a child should know
Wow!! You have the damn cheek to pick me up on an autocorrect mistake, and then you **** up the spelling of grammar!! Brilliant ![]() Quote:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=126 wrong again. have a read what you actually said At the time i had the iphones, little was better than them. Now most are better. I had the iphone 4S and 5S and they were fine. Now iphones are a bit meh. Absolutely no effort in design and the OS basically looks the same as it did 9 years ago. Very bland indeed. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=133 So who's wrong again? You sir, have received the last reply from me. |
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Well, we all know when Moses came down with the 10 commandments, they were on an Android tablet, that's how old Android is
![]() Any opinion that Apple did anything innovative is just heresy! All they do is copy and Android is the preferred OS of God and St Peter. ![]() |
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When it gets to the point where grammar is used to win an argument, you know the argument was lost some time ago.
FWIW I made a mistake in my post (now quoted so I can't fix). 'Until recently all apps were released on iOS first came often not on Android at all.' Written on my phone, while on a train, it should have been: 'Until recently all apps were released on iOS first and often not on Android at all.' I'm surprised nobody picked up on that and threw it back in my face. Although if they had, I'd just say 'Ah diddums. There their they're'. |
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When it gets to the point where grammar is used to win an argument, you know the argument was lost some time ago.
FWIW I made a mistake in my post (now quoted so I can't fix). 'Until recently all apps were released on iOS first came often not on Android at all.' Written on my phone, while on a train, it should have been: 'Until recently all apps were released on iOS first and often not on Android at all.' I'm surprised nobody picked up on that and threw it back in my face. Although if they had, I'd just say 'Ah diddums. There their they're'. |
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There's a big difference between bad writing and making silly typos and basic errors that don't alter the meaning of a sentence. Especially thanks to autocorrect and phone keyboards that predict sentences and can alter the last word without you necessarily noticing.
In my professional work, errors are obviously a no no. But I can't recall ever pointing out grammatical errors on a forum. It's ridiculously childish. I think I've told people to stop using capitals, or break up sentences, but that's more down to having difficulty reading something. If someone says the wrong they're or puts an apostrophe wrong, I can usually figure it out! |
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I wasn't even going to reply to that post since it's full of absolute nonsense, but i had to say this:-
Wow!! You have the damn cheek to pick me up on an autocorrect mistake, and then you **** up the spelling of grammar!! Brilliant ![]() Yes, but you read what i first put 2 days ago when i entered this discussion:- At the time i had the iphones, little was better than them. Now most are better. I had the iphone 4S and 5S and they were fine. Now iphones are a bit meh. Absolutely no effort in design and the OS basically looks the same as it did 9 years ago. Very bland indeed. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=133 So who's wrong again? You sir, have received the last reply from me.
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Stigs, I always use to enjoy the banter we had but I'm getting a little worried about your memory. You use to claim you had an iPhone 4
![]() I always said i had a 4S. My wife had a 4. We have had this conversation more than once now. |
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As do enjoy you always trying to prove me wrong.
I always said i had a 4S. My wife had a 4. In fact I'm sure you said you had the 3GS then an HTC and then an IPhone 4. ![]() Being a little older now even my memory plays up sometimes. If only search worked properly on these forums
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I hadn't finished yet, I'm sure you also claimed to have a 3GS.
In fact I'm sure you said you had the 3GS then an HTC and then an IPhone 4. ![]() Being a little older now even my memory plays up sometimes. If only search worked properly on these forums ![]() Here we go.. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1627454 http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1627952 |
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