he should at least include ronnie roxy and grant in his will
EE: Who should Philth leave his £££ to?
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Legally, Phil can leave his money to whoever he wants to.
However, anyone who is financially dependant on Phil can make a claim on the estate under the Inheritance Act 1975.
Let's assume Phil dies today with his last valid will being the one leaving everything to Lou.
Phil's estate goes to Probate so any creditors can claim for unpaid debts before the Residual Estate is given to Louise.
Unless a contract was signed by Sharon and Phil, Sharon is automatically entitled, as the surviving spouse, to one third of the Residual Estate. She just needs to apply to the Probate court and it will be granted. The only time Sharon wouldn't get anything else is if any joint accounts or properties that she held with Phil are equal to or more than a third of the residual estate.
Ben could contest the will if he could prove that he was financially dependent on Phil. So if the Will directed that all Phil's assets were sold/liquidated and the money given to Lou, Ben could be confident of getting it overturned as not only was he not left any money but the will also would make him unemployed.
Denny would also be able to claim based on his dependency on Phil (just - you need to have been dependant for 2 years) but the court could rule that Sharon's settlement would mean Denny was being cared for.
If Ben successfully challenged the latest will, Probate would then use any older will (and I am assuming there was one which benefited Ben, Sharon and Denny as well as Louise). If there is no Will, Phil would be intestate and that is a whole other kettle of fish.
If Phil dies without a valid will, any joint accounts or jointly owned property would become Sharon's sole property (not part of Phil's estate) and Sharon will automatically inherit all Phil's personal belongings, the first £250,000 plus half the remaining estate.
Phil's children would then share equally in what remained.
However, anyone who is financially dependant on Phil can make a claim on the estate under the Inheritance Act 1975.
Let's assume Phil dies today with his last valid will being the one leaving everything to Lou.
Phil's estate goes to Probate so any creditors can claim for unpaid debts before the Residual Estate is given to Louise.
Unless a contract was signed by Sharon and Phil, Sharon is automatically entitled, as the surviving spouse, to one third of the Residual Estate. She just needs to apply to the Probate court and it will be granted. The only time Sharon wouldn't get anything else is if any joint accounts or properties that she held with Phil are equal to or more than a third of the residual estate.
Ben could contest the will if he could prove that he was financially dependent on Phil. So if the Will directed that all Phil's assets were sold/liquidated and the money given to Lou, Ben could be confident of getting it overturned as not only was he not left any money but the will also would make him unemployed.
Denny would also be able to claim based on his dependency on Phil (just - you need to have been dependant for 2 years) but the court could rule that Sharon's settlement would mean Denny was being cared for.
If Ben successfully challenged the latest will, Probate would then use any older will (and I am assuming there was one which benefited Ben, Sharon and Denny as well as Louise). If there is no Will, Phil would be intestate and that is a whole other kettle of fish.
If Phil dies without a valid will, any joint accounts or jointly owned property would become Sharon's sole property (not part of Phil's estate) and Sharon will automatically inherit all Phil's personal belongings, the first £250,000 plus half the remaining estate.
Phil's children would then share equally in what remained.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Grant given he owes him a substantial amount.”
“Grant given he owes him a substantial amount.”
It was established the debt was actually Dead Kathys and Grant wrote it off in the end.
Fortunately the will that includes Sharon is null and void given that it was signed under duress and he was harassed into doing it. Queen Lou gets the lot.
Given that gold digger sharon has already had a large settlement from Phil that would have kept her and denny comfortable I don't think he should give her another penny. She is so self entitled its unbelievable. He should give the arches and car lot to Ben and Jay jointly.
The house should be left in trust for Louise when she comes of age with Ben and Jay allowed to reside there along with whoever is going to look after Louise. I doubt that will be the self entitled Sharon so she can make her own arrangements.
His other businesses/money should be split between ben and louise and louises share held in trust
The house should be left in trust for Louise when she comes of age with Ben and Jay allowed to reside there along with whoever is going to look after Louise. I doubt that will be the self entitled Sharon so she can make her own arrangements.
His other businesses/money should be split between ben and louise and louises share held in trust
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“Why would Philth do anything for Jay? He hates him because he thinks he's a nonce.”
“Why would Philth do anything for Jay? He hates him because he thinks he's a nonce.”
Because he took him in and treated him like a son till dtc had that great idea
In all seriousness I'd give the house to Ben and Louise with Sharon having the right to live there until she remarries or decides to move out. The Arches should go to Ben and the R&R be shared between Sharon and Louise. I'd appoint Ben as Louise's guardian if she wants to stay. I doubt if there's much cash so they could sell the car lot land to tide them over and pay for his lavish funeral.😂
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“Because he took him in and treated him like a son till dtc had that great idea”
“Because he took him in and treated him like a son till dtc had that great idea”
Just like he took Sharon and Denny in and told them he'd take care of them until SOC had the great idea of Phil cutting them out of his will?
Oh well. **** 'em all. Long live the Philth!
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“Just like he took Sharon and Denny in and told them he'd take care of them until SOC had the great idea of Phil cutting them out of his will?
Oh well. **** 'em all. Long live the Philth!”
“Just like he took Sharon and Denny in and told them he'd take care of them until SOC had the great idea of Phil cutting them out of his will?
Oh well. **** 'em all. Long live the Philth!
”
Not quite. Don't let your Phil hate blind you. He looked after them. He gave sharon a large settlement when they were getting divorced to ensure she was looked after. Not his fault she gave it away. Why should hhe pay twice for her stupidity!
As for Denny she has made it clear all along that it is her child so why should Phil provide for him.
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“Not quite. Don't let your Phil hate blind you. He looked after them. He gave sharon a large settlement when they were getting divorced to ensure she was looked after. Not his fault she gave it away. Why should hhe pay twice for her stupidity!
As for Denny she has made it clear all along that it is her child so why should Phil provide for him.”
“Not quite. Don't let your Phil hate blind you. He looked after them. He gave sharon a large settlement when they were getting divorced to ensure she was looked after. Not his fault she gave it away. Why should hhe pay twice for her stupidity!
As for Denny she has made it clear all along that it is her child so why should Phil provide for him.”
I thought the money Sharon gave Gavin was from the sale of her half of The Albert? When did Philth give her a divorce settlement? Surely you have to get divorced in order to get a divorce settlement. They're still married
Why should Phil provide for anyone? He's the Philth
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“Not quite. Don't let your Phil hate blind you. He looked after them. He gave sharon a large settlement when they were getting divorced to ensure she was looked after. Not his fault she gave it away. Why should hhe pay twice for her stupidity!
As for Denny she has made it clear all along that it is her child so why should Phil provide for him.”
“Not quite. Don't let your Phil hate blind you. He looked after them. He gave sharon a large settlement when they were getting divorced to ensure she was looked after. Not his fault she gave it away. Why should hhe pay twice for her stupidity!
As for Denny she has made it clear all along that it is her child so why should Phil provide for him.”
She'd be fine anyway. She'll have Grant and the newly widowered Jack sniffing around before Phil's body is cold. I can't see Sharon being without a man for long.
Woops...edited... put Grant twice.
Originally Posted by vald:
“She'd be fine anyway. She'll have Grant and the newly widowered Grant sniffing around before Phil's body is cold.”
“She'd be fine anyway. She'll have Grant and the newly widowered Grant sniffing around before Phil's body is cold.”
Newly widowered? Grant's missus died nearly 20 years ago
Originally Posted by vald:
“I can't see Sharon being without a man for long.”
“I can't see Sharon being without a man for long.”
True. She is a sexy bitch. I definitely would.
The money she gave Gsvin was from her sale.of The Albert and lets remember she buikt that business and Phil sold it without her permission for reasons which weren't her fault or issue Yes, she got half back but only half.
If we're considering the liklihood of the eomen having nen sniffing around them that can provide, U imagine Louise won't be short of interest once she's of age. Doesn't mean she should get nothing does it.
Of course Phil has a right to do whatever he wants with his money. Including burning it. But, assuming he does go the standard course of family. The logical and fairest thing would be a 3 way split between his wife and his two children, Ben and Louise. Sharon will provide for Denny from that and leave it to him when her tome comes. He doesn't know about Denuse's baby, if he did then that would change things.
Jay is harder but unfortunately, the fact is that he was never adopted so not a legal child and he has disowned him, and not for the first time. It is cruddy, but he never has been a 'true' child in that sense.
Morally, I think he shoud settle the debt to Grant as well. Doesnt matter that it ended up with Kathy, Grant lent it to his brother in good faith and trusted he would get it back. Kathy shouldn't be off the hook for the debt, though it now seems forgotten about, but why should Grant be the full guy rather than Phil himself?
If we're considering the liklihood of the eomen having nen sniffing around them that can provide, U imagine Louise won't be short of interest once she's of age. Doesn't mean she should get nothing does it.
Of course Phil has a right to do whatever he wants with his money. Including burning it. But, assuming he does go the standard course of family. The logical and fairest thing would be a 3 way split between his wife and his two children, Ben and Louise. Sharon will provide for Denny from that and leave it to him when her tome comes. He doesn't know about Denuse's baby, if he did then that would change things.
Jay is harder but unfortunately, the fact is that he was never adopted so not a legal child and he has disowned him, and not for the first time. It is cruddy, but he never has been a 'true' child in that sense.
Morally, I think he shoud settle the debt to Grant as well. Doesnt matter that it ended up with Kathy, Grant lent it to his brother in good faith and trusted he would get it back. Kathy shouldn't be off the hook for the debt, though it now seems forgotten about, but why should Grant be the full guy rather than Phil himself?
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Grant given he owes him a substantial amount.”
“Grant given he owes him a substantial amount.”
i agree with this he told grant he had no money to pay him,phil has always been sly
I also agree about Grant. Phil and Kathy should pay him back the money they owe him before Phil worries about Louise or anyone else for that matter.
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“I thought the money Sharon gave Gavin was from the sale of her half of The Albert? When did Philth give her a divorce settlement? Surely you have to get divorced in order to get a divorce settlement. They're still married
Why should Phil provide for anyone? He's the Philth”
“I thought the money Sharon gave Gavin was from the sale of her half of The Albert? When did Philth give her a divorce settlement? Surely you have to get divorced in order to get a divorce settlement. They're still married
Why should Phil provide for anyone? He's the Philth
”
He gave her the Albert when they were getting divorced. He took a silly step and signed it over to her before he got her to sign the divorce papers. Another one of those situations where she manipulated him to get what she wanted.
Blinded by love towards her he is.
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“He gave her the Albert when they were getting divorced. He took a silly step and signed it over to her before he got her to sign the divorce papers. Another one of those situations where she manipulated him to get what she wanted.
Blinded by love towards her he is.”
“He gave her the Albert when they were getting divorced. He took a silly step and signed it over to her before he got her to sign the divorce papers. Another one of those situations where she manipulated him to get what she wanted.
Blinded by love towards her he is.”
He'd already given it to Vincent but Sharon managed to get half back. You're right about the money though it should have gone back in the joint kitty. If all businesses are shared then it goes both ways.
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“He gave her the Albert when they were getting divorced. He took a silly step and signed it over to her before he got her to sign the divorce papers. Another one of those situations where she manipulated him to get what she wanted.
Blinded by love towards her he is.”
“He gave her the Albert when they were getting divorced. He took a silly step and signed it over to her before he got her to sign the divorce papers. Another one of those situations where she manipulated him to get what she wanted.
Blinded by love towards her he is.”
Hadnt they both signed the divorce papers as they agreed the settlement and tgen I thought the Nici was issyed whuch can't happen until both parties gave agreed, in wtiting, everything.
They then git back together before the Absolute was issued so I assumw it was called off then.
Do we actually know for sure that the money wasn't returned to Sharon after Gavins arrest and she didn't return.it to the joint accounts?
Also, people are fixating on that and forgetting about sll the money Phil has given away to Kathy out of their joint assets prior yo her official return. Why isn't he beong flayed for that?
The Albert was always hers. Aet ip with his money but in her name, that was the eal, her share of their estate, her security and he forged her signature to give it to Vincent. She only got half back. What about compo for the other half?
Ben and Louise. Maybe even some for Lexi.
I would have said Sharon but her attiitude practically forcing him to change his will in front of her makes me think she doesn't deserve it. She should find someone wlse for her and her bullying brat to leech from.
I would have said Sharon but her attiitude practically forcing him to change his will in front of her makes me think she doesn't deserve it. She should find someone wlse for her and her bullying brat to leech from.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Hadnt they both signed the divorce papers as they agreed the settlement and tgen I thought the Nici was issyed whuch can't happen until both parties gave agreed, in wtiting, everything.
They then git back together before the Absolute was issued so I assumw it was called off then.
Do we actually know for sure that the money wasn't returned to Sharon after Gavins arrest and she didn't return.it to the joint accounts?
Also, people are fixating on that and forgetting about sll the money Phil has given away to Kathy out of their joint assets prior yo her official return. Why isn't he beong flayed for that?
The Albert was always hers. Aet ip with his money but in her name, that was the eal, her share of their estate, her security and he forged her signature to give it to Vincent. She only got half back. What about compo for the other half?”
“Hadnt they both signed the divorce papers as they agreed the settlement and tgen I thought the Nici was issyed whuch can't happen until both parties gave agreed, in wtiting, everything.
They then git back together before the Absolute was issued so I assumw it was called off then.
Do we actually know for sure that the money wasn't returned to Sharon after Gavins arrest and she didn't return.it to the joint accounts?
Also, people are fixating on that and forgetting about sll the money Phil has given away to Kathy out of their joint assets prior yo her official return. Why isn't he beong flayed for that?
The Albert was always hers. Aet ip with his money but in her name, that was the eal, her share of their estate, her security and he forged her signature to give it to Vincent. She only got half back. What about compo for the other half?”
That sort of logical reasoning and factual information doesn't belong in a thread featuring Sharon. You know that, Kitty
The Mitchells can keep the cash. I wouldn't mind him bequeathing me the self replenishing safe though.
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