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Old 03-11-2016, 23:41
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Hello all,

I get that when they make cakes or something, or buy cheap items and flog it in a shop/stall they actually sell the product to the public

But when they have something and they are pitching it to, say, Asda for some large quantity of units, do they actually order a large batch and have to make it or is it a 'ghost order' as in what they would buy if it was a business? I wonder as sometimes Asda crops up and they might get a fairly sized order but then I think well, it's a task so it's sort of a one-day business, and besides I've never seen the item appear in Asda on a temporary basis unless it's in their flagship store in Leeds or in a couple of stores?

Today's task was about public funds, was the hundreds of pounds real?
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Old 04-11-2016, 03:11
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I don't think they would as a general rule but I think there have been some exceptions in the past when they've been so impressed with the products

In the case of the crowd funding tonight I reckon they're 'real' and the creators will have received nice little boosts to their funding after the episode aired tonight!
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:03
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I'd imagine there would be very few firm orders as most products probably would need a good few more rounds of r&d to become actually saleable such as for food all the nutritional values,allergy advice and probably many more little things before it could actually go on the shelf.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:56
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Fairly sure that in most cases the buyers are instructed to place an order based on what they would do if the product was real but no actual orders are placed.
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Old 08-11-2016, 23:18
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Thank you, I thought it might be the case

Maxatoria - good point, didn't think of that!
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Old 09-11-2016, 02:14
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I'd imagine there would be very few firm orders as most products probably would need a good few more rounds of r&d to become actually saleable such as for food all the nutritional values,allergy advice and probably many more little things before it could actually go on the shelf.
The famous "Toffee Apple ice cream" from one of the early series was made at one of the dairies local to me.

After the show aired, they did run a limited edition of "The Apprentice Toffee Apple Ice Cream" in their farm shop - ?but there was a notice above the freezer explain that they had actually had to reformat it to make it saleable to the public.

It was delicious - and a sad day when we ate the last tub!

(Taywell Dairies - Kent)
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Old 09-11-2016, 11:27
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Essentially, it has to be done on the basis of "supposing this product could be produced on a decent scale in line with the regulations", but of course, it depends on whether it is their own invention (pretend) or a real item, like the crowdfunded items, where the real makers can produce them. In the latter case, there is no reason why things cannot go forward - much like the Trunky on Dragon's Den, it is free publicity for many small producers and the end result is based on that free advertising.
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Old 09-11-2016, 19:16
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I'd imagine there would be very few firm orders as most products probably would need a good few more rounds of r&d to become actually saleable such as for food all the nutritional values,allergy advice and probably many more little things before it could actually go on the shelf.




Too true Maxatoria !!

I have dealt with many Head Office Supermarket Buyers - and bear in mind our products sell 3.50 million a day - but notwithstanding that getting them to sanction is not easy - and takes time - a lot of time.

And for a product they do not know - or is new - it is almost impossible.
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Old 09-11-2016, 20:32
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Fairly sure that in most cases the buyers are instructed to place an order based on what they would do if the product was real but no actual orders are placed.
Yes, on one of the after programmes once, they said this is what happens. Still I personally think the company they are pitching to are under a little bit of pressure to place an order for the programme effect despite the generally poor standard of presentations.
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Old 09-11-2016, 20:43
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Yes, on one of the after programmes once, they said this is what happens. Still I personally think the company they are pitching to are under a little bit of pressure to place an order for the programme effect despite the generally poor standard of presentations.
It should be said that pitching to a major retailer with perhaps only a nights sleep to even know what the hells going on is always going to be tough.

The process is basically punishing in that you get very little time to recharge so its probably why we get so many f---- ups due to the time pressure.

I'd imagine that the buying companies are not really under any pressure but obviously they'll know if they rejected the first team and gave them zero orders even giving them a few boxes could be enough and for those people its a new thing especially with the cameras on them.
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Old 09-11-2016, 22:16
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Yes, on one of the after programmes once, they said this is what happens. Still I personally think the company they are pitching to are under a little bit of pressure to place an order for the programme effect despite the generally poor standard of presentations.
If it was a real order they would not even get to first base.
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Old 10-11-2016, 19:55
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ive wondered this, I bet the orders is like a role play they have to say what they would do if orders could be placed but they don't carry the task of orders out in reality
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