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craig_25
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Preferably Ross (if he's still there) as she tried to kill him but was incompetent as usual.
I can't stand her either. She's not convincing.”

Incompetent? At killing? She polished James off good and proper so it looks like Ross might have been her first failure but she's succeeded thereafter. Who's to say she didn't rid herself of that burden of a father she was living with?

She's erratic but far from being not convincing. The actress is incredibly capable and Emma is staying on the right side of her emotions right now (just!!)
albiex
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I hope she's caught and gone ASAP, she's a lousy actress. Pity.”

My sentiments exactly.
egghead1
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“My sentiments exactly.”

You only have to watch the two hander between her and Ashley to see how wrong you are. I hate her accent but she is a good actress.
masterquan
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“My sentiments exactly.”

Honestly, you and the poster you have quoted go and have you hearing and vision checked if you are either not trolling or cannot seperate the quality of acting from whether you like a character or not.
CollieWobbles
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“As someone said on another thread if anyone did watch the recording what would it prove exactly It was kind of a confusing conversation and I don't think it was mentioned that Emma pushed James off the bridge with her denying it so I'm not entirely sure what people would make of it. Anyway judging by tonight's episode it looks like the video has been put away for some time and Emma is going to crack and confess soon

I love Emma and don't see at all why she shouldn't get away with murder like countless others already have in Emmerdale.”

That's what I said, what exactly does that recording prove? Emma could have been been getting all jumbled up and in her grief and Ashley everyone knows gets like that anyway, it's just a load of confusing rambling off both of them with Ashley getting het up about it and her saying sorry for upsetting him. I honestly can't see how it proves or shows anything. On top of which, Ashley and Doug both saw her on a bridge earlier in the day, if anyone asked what Ashley meant about her being in the bridge she could say he meant that, with Doug to back her up.

I also don't see why Emma should have to pay for pushing James, causing him to overbalance over the edge of a bridge railing in a freak accident (how can you fall over the railings of a bridge that are set so high to stop you being able to do just that) when Robert gets to swagger around the place like he's cock of the walk when he threw Katie to her death on purpose. Andy and Ross got away with arranging a double killing. Ross and Aaron have filled the local A& E with coma victims. Rakesh has lied, cheated, stolen, committed arson hospitalising someone as a result and tried to strangle someone. Cain's done his fair share of holding folk hostage and Robert's got a list of crimes that would require felling half a forest to get enough paper to note them all, including a couple of deaths, at least four attempted murders and a kidnapping. So why exactly should Emma have to pay when her actions weren't even done deliberately unlike all the other's? Or is it that she isn't a fanfic wank fantasy male character with a pitiful made up woe is me sobathon background of being either abused (off screen), raped (off screen), mercilessly beaten by her tyrannical father for being caught with some boy when she was 15 ( off screen), or maybe all three even? Really get the old eyeballs moist with sympathy glances that would. Probably get her forgiven in a trice too, after all it did for the other's. ED's motto: be a bastard - sniff and snivel out the shittiest background for yourself that you can dream up - obtain a get out of jail free card for life.
albiex
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“You only have to watch the two hander between her and Ashley to see how wrong you are. I hate her accent but she is a good actress.”

Nothing wrong with her accent. Don't be so snobbish, It's her acting that's diabolical. She's so OTT and unrealistic it hurts. An obvious actor is not a good actor.
masterquan
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Nothing wrong with her accent. Don't be so snobbish, It's her acting that's diabolical.”

Im leaning towards troll contrarian
James J
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Nothing wrong with her accent. Don't be so snobbish, It's her acting that's diabolical. She's so OTT and unrealistic it hurts. An obvious actor is not a good actor.”

Diabolical?

I mean I know it's subjective but Gillian Kearney diabolical? REALLY?

Each to their own but I think she's possibly the best female actress on Emmerdale and one of the best in soap generally. She can evoke a wide gamut of emotions with just her eyes and when she cries I believe it. The different sides to her character are so well drawn to the extent I sympathise with her and want to help her, even though she is so wicked.

I can't help but think those slagging her acting skills off are either trolls or unable to distinguish between actor and character. She is so good that it should almost be indisputable she is classed as at least 'good', if not 'excellent'.
Jack_Clinton
05-11-2016
I liked Emma, and prefer the psychotic characters.

Why should you want Emma to get her comeuppance but characters like Ross Barton, Robert Sugden, Aaron Livesy, Cain Dingle, Carl King etc get away with their crimes.

James Barton was slated on here at times as deadwood so all of a sudden, he is gone, and he is wanted back.

I hope Emma gets away with it for as long as possible
sw2963
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“That's what I said, what exactly does that recording prove? Emma could have been been getting all jumbled up and in her grief and Ashley everyone knows gets like that anyway, it's just a load of confusing rambling off both of them with Ashley getting het up about it and her saying sorry for upsetting him. I honestly can't see how it proves or shows anything. On top of which, Ashley and Doug both saw her on a bridge earlier in the day, if anyone asked what Ashley meant about her being in the bridge she could say he meant that, with Doug to back her up.

I also don't see why Emma should have to pay for pushing James, causing him to overbalance over the edge of a bridge railing in a freak accident (how can you fall over the railings of a bridge that are set so high to stop you being able to do just that) when Robert gets to swagger around the place like he's cock of the walk when he threw Katie to her death on purpose. Andy and Ross got away with arranging a double killing. Ross and Aaron have filled the local A& E with coma victims. Rakesh has lied, cheated, stolen, committed arson hospitalising someone as a result and tried to strangle someone. Cain's done his fair share of holding folk hostage and Robert's got a list of crimes that would require felling half a forest to get enough paper to note them all, including a couple of deaths, at least four attempted murders and a kidnapping. So why exactly should Emma have to pay when her actions weren't even done deliberately unlike all the other's? Or is it that she isn't a fanfic wank fantasy male character with a pitiful made up woe is me sobathon background of being either abused (off screen), raped (off screen), mercilessly beaten by her tyrannical father for being caught with some boy when she was 15 ( off screen), or maybe all three even? Really get the old eyeballs moist with sympathy glances that would. Probably get her forgiven in a trice too, after all it did for the other's. ED's motto: be a bastard - sniff and snivel out the shittiest background for yourself that you can dream up - obtain a get out of jail free card for life.”

This is a great post
youcandoit
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by danyell:
“It seems only women get their comeuppance on Emmerdale. Men get away with loads of things. Robert killed Katie yet he's never been punished for it. Ross tried to kill Robert and he's never been punished either. Pete nearly killed Ross and hid his body but that's been completely forgotten about now. Not to mention all the things Cain has done. Yet women like Steph had a life sentence for something she didn't do. Alisha went to prison for hitting someone. Charity went to prison for a year but Declan did a runner so got away with it. Just seems like Double standards. That's why I want Emma to get away with it. She's no worse than the others I've listed.”

Maybe the main reason women get punished more in soaps is because it's an easy way to write out characters for actresses maternity leave?
scone
05-11-2016
Robert didn't murder Katie, he threw her to the floor and the floor collapsed, did he know the floor was going to fall through? No. So therefore it was not murder.

Emma pushed James on a motorway bridge with such ferocity that he went over, THIS is manslaughter if not murder, pushing someone on a bridge which is so high up is a dangerous thing to do, throwing someone to the floor in a bedroom is not usually dangerous.
samcains90
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“That's what I said, what exactly does that recording prove? Emma could have been been getting all jumbled up and in her grief and Ashley everyone knows gets like that anyway, it's just a load of confusing rambling off both of them with Ashley getting het up about it and her saying sorry for upsetting him. I honestly can't see how it proves or shows anything. On top of which, Ashley and Doug both saw her on a bridge earlier in the day, if anyone asked what Ashley meant about her being in the bridge she could say he meant that, with Doug to back her up.

I also don't see why Emma should have to pay for pushing James, causing him to overbalance over the edge of a bridge railing in a freak accident (how can you fall over the railings of a bridge that are set so high to stop you being able to do just that) when Robert gets to swagger around the place like he's cock of the walk when he threw Katie to her death on purpose. Andy and Ross got away with arranging a double killing. Ross and Aaron have filled the local A& E with coma victims. Rakesh has lied, cheated, stolen, committed arson hospitalising someone as a result and tried to strangle someone. Cain's done his fair share of holding folk hostage and Robert's got a list of crimes that would require felling half a forest to get enough paper to note them all, including a couple of deaths, at least four attempted murders and a kidnapping. So why exactly should Emma have to pay when her actions weren't even done deliberately unlike all the other's? Or is it that she isn't a fanfic wank fantasy male character with a pitiful made up woe is me sobathon background of being either abused (off screen), raped (off screen), mercilessly beaten by her tyrannical father for being caught with some boy when she was 15 ( off screen), or maybe all three even? Really get the old eyeballs moist with sympathy glances that would. Probably get her forgiven in a trice too, after all it did for the other's. ED's motto: be a bastard - sniff and snivel out the shittiest background for yourself that you can dream up - obtain a get out of jail free card for life.”

Perfectly put Collie.
Orchideam
05-11-2016
There is a slight difference to Emma from all the other baddies in Emmerdale - she is a practising, qualified nurse. She has already proven she can use her job to find info on people to serve her own ends - she is one very dangerous, psychotic woman, and has to be found out.
James J
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“There is a slight difference to Emma from all the other baddies in Emmerdale - she is a practising, qualified nurse. She has already proven she can use her job to find info on people to serve her own ends - she is one very dangerous, psychotic woman, and has to be found out.”

Could we soon see Emma offering to nurse Ashley so he's not in care but Laurel has time off? Could end up being one of the most controversial SLs on Emmerdale ever if they continue down the path we saw the other day.
sorcha_healy27
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Could we soon see Emma offering to nurse Ashley so he's not in care but Laurel has time off? Could end up being one of the most controversial SLs on Emmerdale ever if they continue down the path we saw the other day.”

I sincerely hope they don't go thst route
Emrys
05-11-2016
It doesn't seem that unusual for the Emmerdale blokes to be bundled into the boot of a car and taken somewhere to be tied up and threatened. Almost like an initiation into the village these days.
CollieWobbles
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by scone:
“Robert didn't murder Katie, he threw her to the floor and the floor collapsed, did he know the floor was going to fall through? No. So therefore it was not murder.

Emma pushed James on a motorway bridge with such ferocity that he went over, THIS is manslaughter if not murder, pushing someone on a bridge which is so high up is a dangerous thing to do, throwing someone to the floor in a bedroom is not usually dangerous.”

Robert fully intended to kill Katie one way or the other. If the floor hadn't given, she could have whacked the back of her head off the floor. If that hadn't killed her he'd have finished her off some other way as there was no way he was letting walk out of that barn alive.

I would argue that pushing someone against a bridge railing is less dangerous, as I've already said, unless their standing higher than the rail the only way they could topple up and over it is by a freak accident. The railing is there as a barrier to stop people being able to fall off a bridge. There is also a big difference between throwing someone on a bedroom floor which is safe and normally carpeted and throwing them to the extremely unsafe rotten hard wooden floor of a shaky derelict old building.
sorcha_healy27
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Robert fully intended to kill Katie one way or the other. If the floor hadn't given, she could have whacked the back of her head off the floor. If that hadn't killed her he'd have finished her off some other way as there was no way he was letting walk out of that barn alive.

I would argue that pushing someone against a bridge railing is less dangerous, as I've already said, unless their standing higher than the rail the only way they could topple up and over it is by a freak accident. The railing is there as a barrier to stop people being able to fall off a bridge. There is also a big difference between throwing someone on a bedroom floor which is safe and normally carpeted and throwing them to the extremely unsafe rotten hard wooden floor of a shaky derelict old building.”

Yeah but collie she was chasing after the poor bloke who was desperately trying to escape her morphine ladling prisoner keeping insane wedding clutches and ended up pushing him to his death.

It's hardly his fault he ended up dead. Regardless of whether she meant to do it on the bridge or not it's her fault completely as to why the whole situation arose
masterquan
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Diabolical?

I mean I know it's subjective but Gillian Kearney diabolical? REALLY?

Each to their own but I think she's possibly the best female actress on Emmerdale and one of the best in soap generally. She can evoke a wide gamut of emotions with just her eyes and when she cries I believe it. The different sides to her character are so well drawn to the extent I sympathise with her and want to help her, even though she is so wicked.

I can't help but think those slagging her acting skills off are either trolls or unable to distinguish between actor and character. She is so good that it should almost be indisputable she is classed as at least 'good', if not 'excellent'. ”

Excellent post. .
I can't imagine any other actress in Emmmerdale or Coronation Street and Eastenders being as good as her in the role. She expresses so much in a single moment.
No disrespect to soaps I feel Its above soap acting really it's drama quality because to me she really stands out and elevates any scene she's in.
trevor tiger
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“That's what I said, what exactly does that recording prove? Emma could have been been getting all jumbled up and in her grief and Ashley everyone knows gets like that anyway, it's just a load of confusing rambling off both of them with Ashley getting het up about it and her saying sorry for upsetting him. I honestly can't see how it proves or shows anything. On top of which, Ashley and Doug both saw her on a bridge earlier in the day, if anyone asked what Ashley meant about her being in the bridge she could say he meant that, with Doug to back her up.

I also don't see why Emma should have to pay for pushing James, causing him to overbalance over the edge of a bridge railing in a freak accident (how can you fall over the railings of a bridge that are set so high to stop you being able to do just that) when Robert gets to swagger around the place like he's cock of the walk when he threw Katie to her death on purpose. Andy and Ross got away with arranging a double killing. Ross and Aaron have filled the local A& E with coma victims. Rakesh has lied, cheated, stolen, committed arson hospitalising someone as a result and tried to strangle someone. Cain's done his fair share of holding folk hostage and Robert's got a list of crimes that would require felling half a forest to get enough paper to note them all, including a couple of deaths, at least four attempted murders and a kidnapping. So why exactly should Emma have to pay when her actions weren't even done deliberately unlike all the other's? Or is it that she isn't a fanfic wank fantasy male character with a pitiful made up woe is me sobathon background of being either abused (off screen), raped (off screen), mercilessly beaten by her tyrannical father for being caught with some boy when she was 15 ( off screen), or maybe all three even? Really get the old eyeballs moist with sympathy glances that would. Probably get her forgiven in a trice too, after all it did for the other's. ED's motto: be a bastard - sniff and snivel out the shittiest background for yourself that you can dream up - obtain a get out of jail free card for life.”

Yes I remembered reading it in the episode thread and did agree.

I actually think Emma's killing of James and Robert's of Katy is very similar. They both pushed in anger but didn't necessarily want or even know the consequences of their push. It is true that men seem to get away with murder / attempted murder right and left in Emmerdale but in soaps generally I think it's pretty mixed. Clearly less women commit these type of crimes so it probably looks more loaded one way than it actually is.

Regarding Emma getting away with it surely it would be better to compare it with her own sons rather than Robert. Pete beat Ross to death to all intents and purposes and Ross arranged for the murder of Pete. I must say the idea that some have suggested on here, that Ross finds out about what Emma has done and gets retribution is really a hypocrisy too far. If anything he should understand her and bond with her over it Maybe him, Pete and Emma can go for family counselling to sort out all their anger issues

It makes you wonder if Finn is actually a real son of that family
Coldwater2020
05-11-2016
Quote:
“ Robert fully intended to kill Katie one way or the other. If the floor hadn't given, she could have whacked the back of her head off the floor. If that hadn't killed her he'd have finished her off some other way as there was no way he was letting walk out of that barn alive.”

You don't have to exaggerate his crime just to absolve Emma. There's no indication he intended to kill Katie at all. Hell even the killings he did plan he bottled out of pretty quickly. By pushing her it certainly ended up being more than just an 'accident', but there's no reason to believe he knew the floor would collapse beneath her or even any indication that she'd have be badly hurt at all, but for the floor giving way. Emma drugging James repeatedly and then chasing him to his death is also more than just an 'accident'. She may not have intended to kill him, but she did create the situation that led to his death, but unless the actress is leaving the only comeuppance the character is likely to get is everyone finding out and disowning her for a bit which I'm more than fine with since it's pretty much what everyone else has got as retribution. She's due for a bit of that. If she's going after Ashley then personally I'll definitely want her to get more of a comeuppance than being outed though.
Glendarroch
05-11-2016
I think she's s great! I don't t care if fictional bad'uns don't t get caught, they usually get some rough justice eventually. If it's s a good character I' d rather not lose them! She's s a really good actress too. Subtlety wouldn't t work with a character like that. She's s desperate, on the edge. However, Gillian Kearney isn't turning her into a pantomime, comedic character like, say, John Stape in Corrie, even though she' s had some fairly ' out there' scenarios. She feels believable and very mentally fragile to me.
Glendarroch
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Preferably Ross (if he's still there) as she tried to kill him but was incompetent as usual.
I can't stand her either. She's not convincing.”

He could hit her over the head then steal her purse like one of the many other people he's s tried to kill for cashThen one of them could come out of their comas and kill him!

Would he be murdering her be wise she killed James, whom he supposedly loved, or because of what she did to him? It's s an awful thing to do to kill your parent, as bad as killing your child IMO. I
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