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Irvine Welsh.
What the best book to read starting out? Apart from Trainspotting, I've seen the film loads of times!
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What the best book to read starting out? Apart from Trainspotting, I've seen the film loads of times!
![]() ![]() You could read Skagboys at any time as this is the prequel to the stories. Enjoy! I did/do |
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i would recommend "the acid house"
its a book of short stories including a novella couple of the short stories were adapted for TV |
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One of my favourite writers. The book of Trainspotting is quite a lot different than the film so still worth reading.
Love Glue, Bedroom Secret's of the Master Chefs is good too. Marabou Stalk Nightmares was too dark for me. Trainspotting did my head in when I first started reading it cos I'd never heard anyone say ken meaning know. Who the hell is Ken? Thanks for starting this thread cos I've just realised he has 3 books out that I've never read, Skag Boys, The Blade Artist which is all about Begbie, one of my favourite characters, and A Decent Ride about Juice Terry, another of my favourite characters. Cool!
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Glue, then don't bother. Glue reads in someways like a lame attempt from the author to get a US screenplay deal
but its fun enough. The rest of Irwine is dreadful.
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Glue, then don't bother. Glue reads in someways like a lame attempt from the author to get a US screenplay deal
but its fun enough. The rest of Irwine is dreadful.I Love Irvine, my favourite bit of his writing is the Spud job interview, so funny!! |
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Why do you say that? It was a gritty Scottish story, not at all Hollywood?
I Love Irvine, my favourite bit of his writing is the Spud job interview, so funny!! Now I'm gutted if there isn't any. Well worth getting into. Trainspotting, Maribou Stork Nightmares, A Decent Ride, but they are all great. |
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I love all of his books. I struggled to read the dialect when I began with 'Trainspotting.'
Now I'm gutted if there isn't any. Well worth getting into. Trainspotting, Maribou Stork Nightmares, A Decent Ride, but they are all great. He's the master of dialect, I've never read local dialect done better, I feel like I could go to Edinburgh and have no trouble understanding the locals, the reality may be different though lol Just stated A Decent Ride, typical Juice Terry stuff, well done Irv I'm not really expecting much from the film of Trainspotting 2 though but hopefully I'm wrong and it'll be great. |
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i live in the area where alot of trainspotting was set, and probably talk like they do as well, at least when i dont have to remind myself to speak "properly" at work to make myself understood, and i struggled to read the dialect at first because you are just not used to reading in slang
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i live in the area where alot of trainspotting was set, and probably talk like they do as well, at least when i dont have to remind myself to speak "properly" at work to make myself understood, and i struggled to read the dialect at first because you are just not used to reading in slang
![]() I'm from south, no one says that here. |
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You understood what ken meant straight away though right? I was wondering for half the book when we were gonna meet the character called Ken until I realised what it meant.
![]() I'm from south, no one says that here. i was originally from Fife before i moved to Edinburgh and "ken" is probably more common there |
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You understood what ken meant straight away though right? I was wondering for half the book when we were gonna meet the character called Ken until I realised what it meant.
![]() I'm from south, no one says that here. Everyone knew what it meant then. So ... |
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yeah , it was a word i used alot, kinda got out of the habit of it now as i travel alot, have to speak a bit slower and avoid slang because of my work but after a few pints i will slip back into that way of speaking, especially if in the company of other people from that area
i was originally from Fife before i moved to Edinburgh and "ken" is probably more common there
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There was a well known radio programme named 'Beyond our Ken.' This was in the 1950s when everything was made down south and spoken in BBC english.
Everyone knew what it meant then. So ...
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Yeah, I've never heard of it, I've never really listened to radio that much.
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I've heard Irvine say that a lot of the rhyming slang in his books he made up and isn't actually Edinburgh rhyming slang.
So, is "coupon" for face real Edinburgh rhyming slang? Or is it just Irvine's made up stuff? It's cool to have people to ask about this stuff, I had no internet years ago when I first started reading his books so I just used to have to try and suss out for myself. |
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I've heard Irvine say that a lot of the rhyming slang in his books he made up and isn't actually Edinburgh rhyming slang.
So, is "coupon" for face real Edinburgh rhyming slang? Or is it just Irvine's made up stuff? It's cool to have people to ask about this stuff, I had no internet years ago when I first started reading his books so I just used to have to try and suss out for myself. not sure its specific to edinburgh tho, maybe thats what the "made up" bit is |
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no he didn't make that one up, tbh i cant think of any words he made up or that i was unfamiliar with
not sure its specific to edinburgh tho, maybe thats what the "made up" bit is ![]() So is it coupon race=face? I'll probably think of more to ask later, I'm sure there's tons of stuff I didn't understand that I've forgotten about. |
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Thanks, good to know it's actually real
![]() So is it coupon race=face? I'll probably think of more to ask later, I'm sure there's tons of stuff I didn't understand that I've forgotten about. dont know where you got coupon race from, never heard that term before ? |
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its not rhyming slang
dont know where you got coupon race from, never heard that term before ? So how does coupon mean face? lol |
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Oh ok, thanks. I can't remember now, I swear I've read that in one of his books but maybe not, it's been years since I read some of them.
So how does coupon mean face? lol |
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i think it comes from the old practice of people having coupon books and getting them punched when they were used so the phrase became "i'll punch your coupon" and just stuck as coupon = face
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Jonty's a funny new character. Aye sur, aye sur, aye sur lol
The Blade Master was fun too, started off serious and got really crazy, surreal, reminded me of a Quentin Tarantino film, which is cool, I love QT! Begbie's Uncle Jock was scary! |
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I've heard Irvine say that a lot of the rhyming slang in his books he made up and isn't actually Edinburgh rhyming slang.
So, is "coupon" for face real Edinburgh rhyming slang? Or is it just Irvine's made up stuff? It's cool to have people to ask about this stuff, I had no internet years ago when I first started reading his books so I just used to have to try and suss out for myself. |
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