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Old 04-11-2016, 18:40
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What the best book to read starting out? Apart from Trainspotting, I've seen the film loads of times!
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:19
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What the best book to read starting out? Apart from Trainspotting, I've seen the film loads of times!
I would read Glue then Trainspotting. Followed by Porno then A decent Ride and finally the Blade Artist. This is the time order of the books and characters

You could read Skagboys at any time as this is the prequel to the stories.

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Old 08-11-2016, 10:31
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i would recommend "the acid house"

its a book of short stories including a novella

couple of the short stories were adapted for TV
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Old 19-11-2016, 14:25
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One of my favourite writers. The book of Trainspotting is quite a lot different than the film so still worth reading.

Love Glue, Bedroom Secret's of the Master Chefs is good too. Marabou Stalk Nightmares was too dark for me.

Trainspotting did my head in when I first started reading it cos I'd never heard anyone say ken meaning know. Who the hell is Ken?

Thanks for starting this thread cos I've just realised he has 3 books out that I've never read, Skag Boys, The Blade Artist which is all about Begbie, one of my favourite characters, and A Decent Ride about Juice Terry, another of my favourite characters.

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Old 19-11-2016, 21:28
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Glue, then don't bother. Glue reads in someways like a lame attempt from the author to get a US screenplay deal but its fun enough. The rest of Irwine is dreadful.
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Old 19-11-2016, 21:38
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Glue, then don't bother. Glue reads in someways like a lame attempt from the author to get a US screenplay deal but its fun enough. The rest of Irwine is dreadful.
Why do you say that? It was a gritty Scottish story, not at all Hollywood?

I Love Irvine, my favourite bit of his writing is the Spud job interview, so funny!!
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Old 20-11-2016, 11:35
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Why do you say that? It was a gritty Scottish story, not at all Hollywood?

I Love Irvine, my favourite bit of his writing is the Spud job interview, so funny!!
I love all of his books. I struggled to read the dialect when I began with 'Trainspotting.'
Now I'm gutted if there isn't any. Well worth getting into.

Trainspotting, Maribou Stork Nightmares, A Decent Ride, but they are all great.
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Old 20-11-2016, 11:57
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I love all of his books. I struggled to read the dialect when I began with 'Trainspotting.'
Now I'm gutted if there isn't any. Well worth getting into.

Trainspotting, Maribou Stork Nightmares, A Decent Ride, but they are all great.
Yeah, it is hard to read at first but like you say, well worth it cos the stories so cool.

He's the master of dialect, I've never read local dialect done better, I feel like I could go to Edinburgh and have no trouble understanding the locals, the reality may be different though lol

Just stated A Decent Ride, typical Juice Terry stuff, well done Irv

I'm not really expecting much from the film of Trainspotting 2 though but hopefully I'm wrong and it'll be great.
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Old 20-11-2016, 12:48
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i live in the area where alot of trainspotting was set, and probably talk like they do as well, at least when i dont have to remind myself to speak "properly" at work to make myself understood, and i struggled to read the dialect at first because you are just not used to reading in slang
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Old 20-11-2016, 13:36
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i live in the area where alot of trainspotting was set, and probably talk like they do as well, at least when i dont have to remind myself to speak "properly" at work to make myself understood, and i struggled to read the dialect at first because you are just not used to reading in slang
You understood what ken meant straight away though right? I was wondering for half the book when we were gonna meet the character called Ken until I realised what it meant.

I'm from south, no one says that here.
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Old 20-11-2016, 13:56
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You understood what ken meant straight away though right? I was wondering for half the book when we were gonna meet the character called Ken until I realised what it meant.

I'm from south, no one says that here.
yeah , it was a word i used alot, kinda got out of the habit of it now as i travel alot, have to speak a bit slower and avoid slang because of my work but after a few pints i will slip back into that way of speaking, especially if in the company of other people from that area

i was originally from Fife before i moved to Edinburgh and "ken" is probably more common there
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Old 20-11-2016, 18:44
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You understood what ken meant straight away though right? I was wondering for half the book when we were gonna meet the character called Ken until I realised what it meant.

I'm from south, no one says that here.
There was a well known radio programme named 'Beyond our Ken.' This was in the 1950s when everything was made down south and spoken in BBC english.

Everyone knew what it meant then. So ...
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Old 20-11-2016, 23:38
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yeah , it was a word i used alot, kinda got out of the habit of it now as i travel alot, have to speak a bit slower and avoid slang because of my work but after a few pints i will slip back into that way of speaking, especially if in the company of other people from that area

i was originally from Fife before i moved to Edinburgh and "ken" is probably more common there
Cool, it would be fun to get a bit drunk with you
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Old 20-11-2016, 23:43
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There was a well known radio programme named 'Beyond our Ken.' This was in the 1950s when everything was made down south and spoken in BBC english.

Everyone knew what it meant then. So ...
Never heard of it. I remember Take the High Road though, it was terrible!!
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Old 21-11-2016, 12:58
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Our_Ken
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Old 21-11-2016, 13:52
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Yeah, I've never heard of it, I've never really listened to radio that much.
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Old 21-11-2016, 14:52
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I've heard Irvine say that a lot of the rhyming slang in his books he made up and isn't actually Edinburgh rhyming slang.

So, is "coupon" for face real Edinburgh rhyming slang? Or is it just Irvine's made up stuff?

It's cool to have people to ask about this stuff, I had no internet years ago when I first started reading his books so I just used to have to try and suss out for myself.
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Old 21-11-2016, 15:11
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I've heard Irvine say that a lot of the rhyming slang in his books he made up and isn't actually Edinburgh rhyming slang.

So, is "coupon" for face real Edinburgh rhyming slang? Or is it just Irvine's made up stuff?

It's cool to have people to ask about this stuff, I had no internet years ago when I first started reading his books so I just used to have to try and suss out for myself.
no he didn't make that one up, tbh i cant think of any words he made up or that i was unfamiliar with

not sure its specific to edinburgh tho, maybe thats what the "made up" bit is
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Old 21-11-2016, 15:54
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no he didn't make that one up, tbh i cant think of any words he made up or that i was unfamiliar with

not sure its specific to edinburgh tho, maybe thats what the "made up" bit is
Thanks, good to know it's actually real

So is it coupon race=face?

I'll probably think of more to ask later, I'm sure there's tons of stuff I didn't understand that I've forgotten about.
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Old 21-11-2016, 17:08
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Thanks, good to know it's actually real

So is it coupon race=face?

I'll probably think of more to ask later, I'm sure there's tons of stuff I didn't understand that I've forgotten about.
its not rhyming slang

dont know where you got coupon race from, never heard that term before ?
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Old 21-11-2016, 17:15
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its not rhyming slang

dont know where you got coupon race from, never heard that term before ?
Oh ok, thanks. I can't remember now, I swear I've read that in one of his books but maybe not, it's been years since I read some of them.

So how does coupon mean face? lol
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Old 22-11-2016, 03:31
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Oh ok, thanks. I can't remember now, I swear I've read that in one of his books but maybe not, it's been years since I read some of them.

So how does coupon mean face? lol
i think it comes from the old practice of people having coupon books and getting them punched when they were used so the phrase became "i'll punch your coupon" and just stuck as coupon = face
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Old 22-11-2016, 06:59
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i think it comes from the old practice of people having coupon books and getting them punched when they were used so the phrase became "i'll punch your coupon" and just stuck as coupon = face
Cool, thanks.
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:33
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Jonty's a funny new character. Aye sur, aye sur, aye sur lol

The Blade Master was fun too, started off serious and got really crazy, surreal, reminded me of a Quentin Tarantino film, which is cool, I love QT!

Begbie's Uncle Jock was scary!
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Old 09-12-2016, 15:34
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I've heard Irvine say that a lot of the rhyming slang in his books he made up and isn't actually Edinburgh rhyming slang.

So, is "coupon" for face real Edinburgh rhyming slang? Or is it just Irvine's made up stuff?

It's cool to have people to ask about this stuff, I had no internet years ago when I first started reading his books so I just used to have to try and suss out for myself.
I've heard coupon for face, and i live in belfast. I didnt know it wasnt a common phrase
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