Why is failing to like something characterised as 'bashing'?

My reason for not warming to Kevin is his (in my eyes) lack of modesty. He gets an excellent score and, the way I was brought up, would smile and perhaps hug his partner briefly. That's it. To me he makes an ostentatious display and that's my reason for not much liking him.

Other people will see it as a wonderful expression of delight. I don't. Neither do I wake up in the morning and make a conscious decision to pick on someone.

Care to hint their identities?

That would be hard reading on here if they were not popular.

I know Lisa Snowdon's Aunt posted on here at one time. Must have been horrific for her.

haha and yes it would be hard, then again they would also be considered dirty ringahs too even though they have not danced ballroom and latin

I agree that a lot of the dances on strictly are not authentic. Most of the BB dances are based more on stage (ala Fred & Ginger) or American Smooth, and what is classed as AS on Strictly is nothing like the real thing.

We occasionally see a decent Latin dance, but not very often. There will never be a decent samba until someone teaches the band how to play samba music at the correct speed and get them to stop sabotaging the dance. Strange how they often manage to slow down VW or quicksteps though!

More often or not jives are a mish-mash of steps taken from jitterbug or simpler swing, with music that is a RnR beat instead of a jive. TBH I didn't like Danny's jive last night, for me he needs to stop over-dancing everything, including his ballroom.

I've never danced or studied AT, but I recall someone on DS who does dance AT who said not even Vincent & Flavia dance authentic style. I'm guessing their's is a ballroom style AT, as opposed to what would be danced outside the ballroom dance world.

think Vincent and Flavia dance what is termed show style AT - I really love authentic AT which is so raw and strong and nothing like what we see on the show - we were lucky enough to be in Buenos Aires several years ago and it was eye opening

Always great to see that again. I liked Louise's AT, but we were shouting "look up" all the way through it- she was constantly looking at the floor. One of the reasons Rachel's AT was so intense -to me- is that she's constantly looking at Vincent.
But Rachel did have the big advantage over Louise in that she was dancing with an AT master.

It's what my mum would have called 'showing off just to get attention', along with 'it's not big, it's not clever and nobody is looking at you'

Having had fairly intensive lessons in AT for quite some time, a few years ago, I don't think the AT is particularly hard or easy. It suits some people more than others, just as Ballroom and Latin do. Like all dances you have to learn the basics to dance it well. Like all dances on Strictly people rarely do learn the basics in any amount of depth, and sometimes not at all.

As soon as I saw Kevin and Louise's AT and then the scores from the judges, I knew that it would cause a reaction in some areas. Part of me takes quite a bit of pleasure in the very predictable outrage, which was building up to a crescendo even BEFORE the show, mainly because Kevin was the pro and it was the sacred AT. However part of me sympathises, since I have felt that in the past about the ballroom dances (and it did resurface a bit after Natalie and Greg's rumba).

Yes, all dances are misrepresented on Strictly, my particular pet hate being the way the waltz is performed as a very static dance, with poor use of the feet, lots of posey lines, and limited movement and power.

I wasn't overly keen on Kevin and Louise's AT, I admit.

Someone on here many moons ago said they don't learn a dance, they learn a routine. Very deep, I thought, and it's true. They don't have time to learn the proper techniques so they just learn a series of steps. And some of them don't even do that!

I loved it. My favourite dance of the night with Claudia 2nd and Danny third.

The girls shone for me tonight and I'm an Ore fan.

I liked it but didn't feel it worthy of tens. Didn't feel an emotional connection or passion, and felt some of the moves weren't as smooth as they could have been (eg.the starting circle of the floor with her foot).

Strange, because I found Rachel Stevens extraordinarily dull as well. Very pretty mind you, same as Louise.
I thought it was the dance of the night, maybe not worth three 10's but deservedly top of the leaderboard. Passion is a difficult one, some of the most attractive contestants fail to convey it, yet the professionals seem to be able to turn it on at will. For me, the AT needs to be performed by a lady of some "experience" if you get my drift. Perhaps I'd better leave it at that, before my imagination runs riot.

I found Rachel very bland. Technically good (which Louise is not) but no spark. Having said that, her AT knocked spots of Louise's effort.

This 'authenticity' debate reminds me of myself when I first started getting into music in the late '50's and early '60's. I was immediately smitten by R 'n' B in all its manifestations and, in an age when cover versions of original US artists was de rigueur, I was simply OUTRAGED when music that I was OH SO PRECIOUS about was released as a crummy cover version by some spotty British oik that wouldn't understand the blues if it got up and bit him (or her) on the bum.

It took until Cream covered the Holiest of Holies - a Robert Johnson classic 'Crossroads' - for me to realise that an honestly and expertly conceived cover version was every bit as valid as the original. Just different - that's all. I also had to admit to myself that my teenage self had been guilty of little more than musical snobbery.

Absolutely Fuschia Groan. If we kept to what was considered to be 'authentic' then nothing would change. Furthermore many art forms or social past times would become (or continue to be) exclusive and uninviting. We would be stuck in the same world forever.

Two interpretations of 'Tanguera' :

Miriam Larici and Leonardo Barrionuevo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvbP0ikO1xk


And my favourite dancers, Mariana Montes and Sebastian Arce:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlhYZKXXfJ8

To me, Louise and Kevin's AT was about seduction rather than in-your-face passion. I like subtlety and suppressed fire more than ripped bodices.

Thank you so much for the links!

You are welcome.

You may like to watch another of my favourites.

Sebastian Achaval and Roxana Suarez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-MVsBY2OUA

Well there's a lot of truth in that so I will shut the F*@k up

Dons hard and prepares to run and hide She and Brendan did a smoking AT. Forget the bloody Bacofoil incident you lot.

just knew I should not have looked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suyh4tGuScw

I just can't warm to her. I want to be moved, I want to feel something, anything, but with her, there's just nothing. For me, she's just dull.

I would have thought that the music alone would have got her to show some passion. She has no chemistry with Kevin and she seems to dance every dance by rote. Agree overmarked and for a professional dancer I think she is overrated. But at least she wasn't dancing with that fixed smile. I just find her very insipid.