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Giovanni wearing a Poppy
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marcusdb
06-11-2016
Hello, this is kind of an off topic question but I noticed on last night's Strictly that Giovanni was wearing a poppy. Was he asked to do this by the BBC, as I think it's rather inappropriate considering Italy doesn't have Rememberance Sunday and their role in World War 2. I work with quite a few Germans and some of them have said they think it would be distasteful for them to wear a poppy. I'm Swiss by the way. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but just curious.
joshua321
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by marcusdb:
“Hello, this is kind of an off topic question but I noticed on last night's Strictly that Giovanni was wearing a poppy. Was he asked to do this by the BBC, as I think it's rather inappropriate considering Italy doesn't have Rememberance Sunday and their role in World War 2. I work with quite a few Germans and some of them have said they think it would be distasteful for them to wear a poppy. I'm Swiss by the way. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but just curious.”

But if he didn't wear it he would just stand out. The Poppy Brigade probably just come and pin in on every single person who could possibly caught on camera; I highly doubt the people affected actually think about it for themselves or are too concerned with why they are wearing it. The symbol has lost all meaning because of that anyway.
SeasideLady
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by marcusdb:
“Hello, this is kind of an off topic question but I noticed on last night's Strictly that Giovanni was wearing a poppy. Was he asked to do this by the BBC, as I think it's rather inappropriate considering Italy doesn't have Rememberance Sunday and their role in World War 2. I work with quite a few Germans and some of them have said they think it would be distasteful for them to wear a poppy. I'm Swiss by the way. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but just curious.”

It's up to each individual to decide about wearing a poppy or not. I wear one but it's surprising how few you see these days being worn. BBC push it big time, ensuring all presenters and guests are wearing one. Countryfile even had farmers in their overalls wearing one ! That's just so that viewers can't have a go at them for not showing respect, but it's laughable and over the top. Giovanni is over here embracing life to the full, and just wants to be part of the tradition I would think.
Ulsterguy
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by marcusdb:
“Hello, this is kind of an off topic question but I noticed on last night's Strictly that Giovanni was wearing a poppy. Was he asked to do this by the BBC, as I think it's rather inappropriate considering Italy doesn't have Rememberance Sunday and their role in World War 2. I work with quite a few Germans and some of them have said they think it would be distasteful for them to wear a poppy. I'm Swiss by the way. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but just curious.”

Germans shouldn't be describing anything as distasteful with thier history from the war.
joshua321
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ulsterguy:
“Germans shouldn't be describing anything as distasteful with thier history from the war.”

Did you actually read the original post? 'Distasteful' referred to how the German people felt about the idea of their wearing a poppy, for obvious reasons.
VicsMum
06-11-2016
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Maybe he was just trying to be nice and respectful and adopted a tradition of the host country he's living in at the moment.
LazySusan
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by joshua321:
“But if he didn't wear it he would just stand out. The Poppy Brigade probably just come and pin in on every single person who could possibly caught on camera; I highly doubt the people affected actually think about it for themselves or are too concerned with why they are wearing it. The symbol has lost all meaning because of that anyway.”

You mean like Tristan did the last 2 years. He refused to wear one which (I know some won't agree with me) really put me off him.

When in Rome.
sorcha_healy27
06-11-2016
Because the poppy fascists would complain if he didn't.
aggs
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Maybe he was just trying to be nice and respectful and adopted a tradition of the host country he's living in at the moment.”

Didn't we have a thread last year about Tristan not wearing a poppy?
DiamondDoll
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by joshua321:
“But if he didn't wear it he would just stand out. The Poppy Brigade probably just come and pin in on every single person who could possibly caught on camera; I highly doubt the people affected actually think about it for themselves or are too concerned with why they are wearing it. The symbol has lost all meaning because of that anyway.”

I find that distasteful, inaccurate and disrespectful to everyone who wears a poppy.
joshua321
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“I find that distasteful, inaccurate and disrespectful to everyone who wears a poppy.”

Good for you; doesn't stop it being true though. You really get outraged easily.
collaw
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“I find that distasteful, inaccurate and disrespectful to everyone who wears a poppy.”

myself i donate because choose to, but will not wear, it has become a pressure tool to get donations so just like a commercial enterprise
Chiltons Cane
06-11-2016
Not everyone has to wear a poppy. I find it really fake when every single person on tv is wearing one. An episode of Casualty last week had every member of staff wearing one and every patient. Just not realistic.

I recall Tristan getting a backlash last year for not wearing one. its personal choice and people should not be slated for not wearing one.
donna255
06-11-2016
The Daily Mail who hate the BBC anyway, would have front page about him if he did not wear one. The rabid DM readers would be demanding his head and have him deported.
VicsMum
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Didn't we have a thread last year about Tristan not wearing a poppy?”

We had several as far as I remember, aggs...
Vodka_Drinka
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Because the poppy fascists would complain if he didn't.”

This!
lundavra
06-11-2016
The Poppy commemorates all people killed in warfare. I don't know his background but there were many Italians in Britain during WWII, most supported the Allies even though interned for security reasons. Many others in Italy opposed the Mussolini regime. Italy joined the Allies as a belligerent in 1943 (I think).
duckylucky
06-11-2016
A poppy is a symbol to remember fallen soldiers in war . A symbol . I can remember them as I see fit , when I see fit and how I see fit . People wear a poppy and fair play to them if thats how they see fit . Others dont and maybe they remember in their own good time and own good way . Wearing one does not exclude you or make you any different it simply means you wear one .
Giovanni has as much right to wear or not to wear as had Tristan .Its a choice we all have and we also have a choice to respect all others who do or don't choice to wear one.
Anyone who doesn't get that we have a choice doesn't even know what a poppy stands for .
sorcha_healy27
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“I find that distasteful, inaccurate and disrespectful to everyone who wears a poppy.”

I don't know where you got that but the fact is anyone who doesn't want to wear the poppy on tv is subjected to bullying to conform

Totally going against everything the poppy is supposed to stand for
The Swampster
06-11-2016
I'm, er, fifty-plus and I can remember poppies being sold back in the sixties. Most people would buy one at some point and pin them on their coat (as they tended to be outside when they bought them). Nobody ever wore them indoors.
I find the BBC's modern-day poppy obsession every November extremely irritating. It seems bizarre to me that this commemoration of people who gave their lives to protect our freedoms has become compulsory in some places, rather than a matter of personal choice.
bornfree
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Maybe he was just trying to be nice and respectful and adopted a tradition of the host country he's living in at the moment.”

Good on him
lynwood3
06-11-2016
They were all wearing poppies on their Tshirts in the training VTs.
Clearly if they want to keep their jobs, it's obligatory

Must remember to wear a poppy on my pyjamas.
Hamlet77
06-11-2016
Perhaps living and working in this country has given him a different perspective and he now chooses to wear a poppy with pride.
lulu g
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“A poppy is a symbol to remember fallen soldiers in war . A symbol . I can remember them as I see fit , when I see fit and how I see fit . People wear a poppy and fair play to them if thats how they see fit . Others dont and maybe they remember in their own good time and own good way . Wearing one does not exclude you or make you any different it simply means you wear one .
Giovanni has as much right to wear or not to wear as had Tristan .Its a choice we all have and we also have a choice to respect all others who do or don't choice to wear one.
Anyone who doesn't get that we have a choice doesn't even know what a poppy stands for .”

Good post. We all have, and should have, the freedom to choose to wear a poppy or not. I wouldn't dream of pressurizing someone who makes a different choice from me.
chachaclo
06-11-2016
I'm pretty sure the BBC pins poppies on anything that moves 🙄
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