Giovanni wearing a Poppy

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k9fan

06-11-2016

Originally Posted by marcusdb:
“Hello, this is kind of an off topic question but I noticed on last night's Strictly that Giovanni was wearing a poppy. Was he asked to do this by the BBC, as I think it's rather inappropriate considering Italy doesn't have Rememberance Sunday and their role in World War 2. I work with quite a few Germans and some of them have said they think it would be distasteful for them to wear a poppy. I'm Swiss by the way. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but just curious.”

Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day#Italy

gorlagon

06-11-2016

Originally Posted by RobMiles:
“You haven't fixed anything thanks. Arrogant much. Anyway, are you talking about the BBC. The Press don't object to an independent judiciary. But they have a right to call out what they think is a wrong decision. If the Judiciary was always correct, people wouldn't be able to appeal rulings.”

Well, arrogant I may be but I recognise fascism when I see it. And I have absolutely no idea where you got the idea I was talking about the BBC. I was replying to someone who was talking about the Daily Mail, which is as fascist in 2016 as it was in 1930. It's just stopped using the word itself, what with WW2 an' all. And if you missed the Daily Mail calling judges enemies of the people this very week, then I don't understand why you quoted and replied to people who were talking about the Daily Mail calling judges the enemies of the people this very week.

1. Accusing judges of being enemies of the people is textbook fascism.

2. Forced (whether by law or media-fuelled social pressure) participation in patriotic ritual is textbook fascism.

3. Free speech and a free press does not mean that when someone/something says something, it is not a fascist thing to say. It just means that someone/something is allowed to express a fascist opinion.

gorlagon

06-11-2016

Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Give over.

Poppies are non political, for most, they are simply a mark of respect and thanks to war dead who protected many people from extermination.

They're a reminder and more an encouragement to people to donate to a worthy cause.
Take your political agenda elsewhere.

When were you ever "forced" to wear a poppy?

There's a few people in broadcasting making a song and dance trying to draw attention to themselves, about not going to wear a poppy, if anyone cared, whether they did or not.

I think the BBC are "encouraging" their people to wear a poppy. Don't think there will be any written warnings handed out to anyone who doesn't turn up for work with one.”

I don't have a political agenda. I don't comply when pressured to comply when other people have a political agenda. That's the point. If the poppy hadn't been politicised, I would probably wear one, as I said earlier.

Fatima502

06-11-2016

Originally Posted by aggs:
“Didn't we have a thread last year about Tristan not wearing a poppy?”

We did and everyone got upset and we were even told not to discuss the matter further by the moderators at DS.

gorlagon

06-11-2016

Originally Posted by Fatima502:
“We did and everyone got upset and we were even told not to discuss the matter further by the moderators at DS.”

Whoops. Apologies all. I shall post no more!

Doghouse Riley

06-11-2016

Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“I don't have a political agenda. I don't comply when pressured to comply when other people have a political agenda. That's the point. If the poppy hadn't been politicised, I would probably wear one, as I said earlier.”

Sorry, but I don't believe a poppy need be "personally politicised," you wear it for what it means to you and sod anyone else.
Actually I don't always wear one, but I keep one in the corner of the dashboard of my car, all year round, because the charity works all year round and until recently lots of our troops were still getting killed all year round. I've seen other motorists who do the same or have one permanently on their radiator grill. (No, not a red nose).
I still make a contribution each year, in fact any time I'm approached by a collector, which isn't that often, I put another pound in the box. I always seem to lose the ones they give you.

drakhen

07-11-2016

Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day#Italy”

They may have an event in Italy, but it is not a prominent one. I asked an Italian colleague after I read your post and she said she'd never heard of it.

k9fan

07-11-2016

Originally Posted by drakhen:
“They may have an event in Italy, but it is not a prominent one. I asked an Italian colleague after I read your post and she said she'd never heard of it.”

Italy
In Italy, soldiers who died for the nation are remembered on 4 November, when the ceasefire that followed the Armistice of Villa Giusti in 1918 began. The Day is known as the Day of National Unity Day of the Armed Forces, Giorno dell'Unità Nazionale Giornata delle Forze Armate in Italian.[52] Since 1977, this day has not been a public holiday; now, many services are held on the first Sunday in November.[53]

DS Forum Support

08-11-2016

This thread has been closed as it has become far too off-topic for the Strictly Come Dancing forum.

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