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Danny Dyer's dialogue needs subtitles!
I have commented on this before - but it getting worse every episode. I love cockney rhyming slang - in the right situation but Danny's script writers are taking this too far. I cannot follow some on his lines as I try to workout what that phrase meant.
No one else in the family do this, Timothy West didn't, so why do they continue to build on this stereotype? Perhaps he should cover his wastecoat with pearly buttons and sport a peaked cap. Replace the Eastenders theme with "Knees up Mother Brown" Eastenders is a national soap - not just broadcast in Essex!
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Maybe he rewrites the scripts and replaces some of the words.
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Danny Dyer takes it to the extreme. East End people do not generally speak like him.
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I have commented on this before - but it getting worse every episode. I love cockney rhyming slang - in the right situation but Danny's script writers are taking this too far. I cannot follow some on his lines as I try to workout what that phrase meant.
No one else in the family do this, Timothy West didn't, so why do they continue to build on this stereotype? Perhaps he should cover his wastecoat with pearly buttons and sport a peaked cap. Replace the Eastenders theme with "Knees up Mother Brown" Eastenders is a national soap - not just broadcast in Essex! ![]() He speaks in the dialect of the area that Eastenders is set in |
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My dad was (still is, but I haven't seen the bugger in 9 years) an official cockney...raised in Hackney, and he didn't have that accent either, although he did use a lot of the slang, just not with that accent.
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Then put the sub titles on. I have no problem with Cockney because it is my home turf but frequently have to use the sub titles when programmes are set in other parts of the UK where I'm not familiar with the accents or dialect. Sometimes I have to use them for Phil or Max because they are prone to mumble.
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Its a good point about how Mick is the only Carter with this type of accent.
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Its a good point about how Mick is the only Carter with this type of accent.
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Thats probably because he is the only real cockney in the cast.
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You misunderstand. Tina, Stan, Shirley, Babe, Sylvia. None of them share his accent. You would think EastEnders would have encouraged them to adopt some of his slang to make it sound like they all come from the same cloth.
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You misunderstand. Tina, Stan, Shirley, Babe, Sylvia. None of them share his accent. You would think EastEnders would have encouraged them to adopt some of his slang to make it sound like they all come from the same cloth.
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He is unbearable at times.. When he tries to do any emotional scenes
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He is unbearable at times.. When he tries to do any emotional scenes
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I really fail to see what the big deal is and I understand what he says perfectly and I'm not English
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My dad was (still is, but I haven't seen the bugger in 9 years) an official cockney...raised in Hackney, and he didn't have that accent either, although he did use a lot of the slang, just not with that accent.
If I'm out with my circle of best mates, we come from within a 15 mile radius of each other but every one of us has a slightly different dialect. It may not be noticeable to on Londoners but it is obvious to us. |
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It's 100% fine shame cockney has died out for the modern slang I wish we had more characters who spoke like modern South and East Londoners do since it would be realistic. Only Fatboy and Shakil and possibly Dexter spoke how people these days speak in London.
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I bet when Mick got married he took tne Trouble and Strife up the Apple and Pears to have a bit of T Rex
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But Danny is from Canning Town which has a very different dialect to Hackney. London accents are funny as they can vary so much in a few miles. I'm from just the other side of the water and yet I have a totally different accent to friends who grew up less than 10 miles away.
If I'm out with my circle of best mates, we come from within a 15 mile radius of each other but every one of us has a slightly different dialect. It may not be noticeable to on Londoners but it is obvious to us. For what it's worth, one of my best friends is Canning Town birn and bred and actually went to school with Dyer, though he was a year above her, and whilst their accent is very similar, she doesn't do all the rhyming slang stuff. Neither do any of her friends and family, also from that area that I have met. |
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The writers probably think of him as the new frank butcher
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I have commented on this before - but it getting worse every episode. I love cockney rhyming slang - in the right situation but Danny's script writers are taking this too far. I cannot follow some on his lines as I try to workout what that phrase meant.
No one else in the family do this, Timothy West didn't, so why do they continue to build on this stereotype? Perhaps he should cover his wastecoat with pearly buttons and sport a peaked cap. Replace the Eastenders theme with "Knees up Mother Brown" Eastenders is a national soap - not just broadcast in Essex! ![]() |
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I think his dialoge should be scrapped to the point he's axed or just a non speaking extra just for the sake or not having to turn the volume on and off mute every line he says.
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I can understand what he says nearly all the time. I don't understand what the odd cockney slang word means, but the non-slang words I can though. He's not very easy to understand but I can understand him enough though.
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The writers probably think of him as the new frank butcher
Some kind of Pilchard |
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Are you not English then? Because I understand him perfectly.
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Quite true. I grew up in Chelmsford, only a fe miles from Brentwood snd sound nothing like the TOWIE lot.
For what it's worth, one of my best friends is Canning Town birn and bred and actually went to school with Dyer, though he was a year above her, and whilst their accent is very similar, she doesn't do all the rhyming slang stuff. Neither do any of her friends and family, also from that area that I have met. |
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