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Old 06-11-2016, 22:33
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...stenders-exit/

That looks like the roof of the wedding venue. Wonder if they fall or are pushed?
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Old 06-11-2016, 22:43
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Seems a shame that the Sun have basically spoiled their deaths, now complete with pictures. Still going to reserve judgement until I watch.
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Old 06-11-2016, 22:43
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So Roxy falls off the wall drunk and Ronnie goes into gossve her, but didn't The Sun originally report that Roxy would be found face down, doesn't make sense
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Old 06-11-2016, 23:09
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So Roxy falls off the wall drunk and Ronnie goes into gossve her, but didn't The Sun originally report that Roxy would be found face down, doesn't make sense
That's because the sun is making it up as they go along
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Old 06-11-2016, 23:12
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Sounds like The Sun are making it up as they go along.

Here's a timeline of what we know:

1. R&R are leaving. The BBC spokeman say it's time to "rest" the characters.
2. Womack and Windsor's language suggests it's for good.
3. Womack then tweets "do you know what you think you know?"
4. The Sun say they're filming multiple exits.
5. The Sun then say they both drown, Roxy by being being drunk and Ronnie by the weight of her dress.
6. The Sun now are saying they fall from a wall/roof in a tragic accident?

Basically, they've got exclusive photos and are just predicting what the outcomes are? What about the other "multiple exits" that are being filmed?

Still don't think they will die. It all seems fishy to me. Especially as the new producer seems intent on not leaking spoilers, so why film so openly?
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Old 06-11-2016, 23:13
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How is this supposed to be the amazing exit promised for the 2 sisters? And what a waste of all storyline potential for Ronnie. With a character with a history like hers, this is a joke of an exit and a waste of potential. Clearly the new EP has no clue. The whole point of axing the bg names is it gives the opportunity for "best exit storylines" at awards which means you need to write something which will win. And drunken Roxy drowning/ falling from a wall to her death, with Ronnie drowning/ dying trying to save her is not "best storyline material" particularly not the joke of the swimming pool idea! There has to be more to it or the EP hasn't got a clue of what "offered an amazing exit storyline" means.
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Old 06-11-2016, 23:13
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Sounds like The Sun are making it up as they go along.

Here's a timeline of what we know:

1. R&R are leaving. The BBC spokeman say it's time to "rest" the characters.
2. Womack and Windsor's language suggests it's for good.
3. Womack then tweets "do you know what you think you know?"
4. The Sun say they're filming multiple exits.
5. The Sun then say they both drown, Roxy by being being drunk and Ronnie by the weight of her dress.
6. The Sun now are saying they fall from a wall/roof in a tragic accident?

Basically, they've got exclusive photos and are just predicting what the outcomes are? What about the other "multiple exits" that are being filmed?

Still don't think they will die. It all seems fishy to me. Especially as the new producer seems intent on not leaking spoilers, so why film so openly?

Don't forget the journos have been on here, twitter and other places to get the ideas they are posting
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Old 06-11-2016, 23:14
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And where is Jack in all this?
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Old 06-11-2016, 23:20
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How is this supposed to be the amazing exit promised for the 2 sisters? And what a waste of all storyline potential for Ronnie. With a character with a history like hers, this is a joke of an exit and a waste of potential. Clearly the new EP has no clue. The whole point of axing the bg names is it gives the opportunity for "best exit storylines" at awards which means you need to write something which will win. And drunken Roxy drowning/ falling from a wall to her death, with Ronnie drowning/ dying trying to save her is not "best storyline material" particularly not the joke of the swimming pool idea! There has to be more to it or the EP hasn't got a clue of what "offered an amazing exit storyline" means.
I don't think it's that bad an exit, Ronnie dying trying to save her sister
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Old 07-11-2016, 00:08
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I think this one and them falling in the pool are fake and they're the multiple endings they're filming.
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Old 07-11-2016, 02:18
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Falling into a pool and drowning sounds bad. A river, lake or the sea I could understand but a pool? Sure they are drunk but come on now.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:40
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Wish the pictures were secret.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:12
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maybe they re filming out of sequence so Ronnie leaves Roxy on the wall and she falls and later Ronnie finds her face down?

I do find these leaks suspitious
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:20
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How is this supposed to be the amazing exit promised for the 2 sisters? And what a waste of all storyline potential for Ronnie. With a character with a history like hers, this is a joke of an exit and a waste of potential. Clearly the new EP has no clue. The whole point of axing the bg names is it gives the opportunity for "best exit storylines" at awards which means you need to write something which will win. And drunken Roxy drowning/ falling from a wall to her death, with Ronnie drowning/ dying trying to save her is not "best storyline material" particularly not the joke of the swimming pool idea! There has to be more to it or the EP hasn't got a clue of what "offered an amazing exit storyline" means.
You can tell how good or bad something is going to be from a few grainy paparazzi photos? none of which even confirm this drowning scenario.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:39
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I love the way people are predicting how bad it's going to be from a few assumptions made by The Sun!

It may or may not be a sensational exit in the manner that DTC did things but surely if we've learnt anything from the last couple of months, it's that however they leave it will be well-written, credible, thought-provoking and probably emotional with perhaps a little comedic element.

Of course, that'll be seen as 'boring' by some if no-one gets blown to pieces and pathos seems to be lost on many viewers.

It's a shame that so many people can't do without spoilers and without any spoilers, they assume that nothing will happen and what does happen will be dull and boring. Personally, I'm loving it. It's a refreshing change and I'm loving the anticipation and the not knowing.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:42
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I can't see the newspapers getting it wrong. They are dying in a swimming pool.

People expecting multiple endings being filmed are deluded. The BBC cannot justify wasting money like that and stunts on that scale cost far too much money.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:45
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The Sun are usually very accurate when it comes to spoilers, so I think the drowning thing probably is true although I don't think it will be as straightforward as we have been led to believe.

Falling into a pool and drowning is a lame exit, frankly. I'm sure there will be more to it.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:58
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The Sun are usually very accurate when it comes to spoilers, so I think the drowning thing probably is true although I don't think it will be as straightforward as we have been led to believe.

Falling into a pool and drowning is a lame exit, frankly. I'm sure there will be more to it.
I think on the surface (no pun intended ) it sounds lame but the reality could be very different.

Jack hasn't been seen in any of these pictures; maybe he jilts Ronnie on the day? The other guests start to leave, Roxy and Ronnie get blind drunk together, have a proper heart to heart about their relationship, in their drunken state they decide to jump in to the pool for a swim (to me, in those pictures, it looks like they're jumping rather than falling), Ronnie is splashing around laughing and spluttering, still drunk and not noticing that Roxy has gone under until it's too late. Can't lift her out because she's too drunk, and her dress is weighing her down. Then she decides to hold herself under in her grief. I think the obsessive nature of Ronnie's love for Roxy would cause her to do that.

Like Ten_Ben says in his excellent post, the pathos would be what makes their deaths tragic. And Rita and Sam would definitely pull these performances out of the bag.

Like you I'll reserve judgement but I think this could be a really powerful ending for both of them if the writing is there.
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:11
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So far we have been fed a picture of Ronnie running away with Jay, a picture of her sitting on a parapet (not overlooking a swimming pool) and a rumour that they drown. There's nothing there that ties together. IMO we are being fed red herrings.

Then of course there's that big red bus that some have been convinced is significant along with the blow up of Lee that was strapped on the mini bus at Whitney's hen do....

Oh I forgot the not so secret filming at Beachy Head or wherever.
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:15
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I'm probably one if the few that believes the sun is right, as they usually are when it comes to TV spoilers
Plus I would not put it past the dreadful current producer to come up with such an appalling exit.
I miss DTC, which I never thought I would say as he came up with some nonsense sometimes and I dislike the Carter family.
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:23
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Not sure why people are so sure The Sun is wrong on this? they have always been quite accurate with spoilers and as someone said the BBC cannot waste public money on filming several different endings, they haven't got the budget let alone the time.

The Sun won't wrong about how they die, It WILL be happening in a swimming pool as the BBC will have booked the stunt team for it. That will be how the newspaper has its source on the exit. Its just poor writing on The Sun's behalf in regards to the articles they post what has made it confusing for some. They look like a 12 year old wrote them so its no wonder people can't make sense of it.

As for killing them off. I still think its a terrible decision. SOC obviously really hates their characters and the 'EastEnders' they represent so wants the door closed on this chapter for good..
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:38
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I don't see people "hell-bent" on saying that The Sun is wrong. The Sun might be right, they might be wrong and they might be half-right. No-one knows. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. What most people are saying is that the departures won't be a simple as The Sun is making out. It doesn't follow given how the show is being written at the moment (Friday's ep being a good example).

Besides, this is a new era and the BBC is clearly trying to keep spoilers to a minimum, so how accurate The Sun's articles are depends very much on how they got the photos, many of which appear to be taken in breaks, or rehearsals, and therefore could easily be red-herrings.

(I also kind of like the idea of The Sun publishing nonsense that is not remotely close to what really happens - that'll annoy them and set the internet alight! )
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Old 07-11-2016, 09:53
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Not sure why people are so sure The Sun is wrong on this? they have always been quite accurate with spoilers and as someone said the BBC cannot waste public money on filming several different endings, they haven't got the budget let alone the time.

The Sun won't wrong about how they die, It WILL be happening in a swimming pool as the BBC will have booked the stunt team for it. That will be how the newspaper has its source on the exit. Its just poor writing on The Sun's behalf in regards to the articles they post what has made it confusing for some. They look like a 12 year old wrote them so its no wonder people can't make sense of it.

As for killing them off. I still think its a terrible decision. SOC obviously really hates their characters and the 'EastEnders' they represent so wants the door closed on this chapter for good..
Agree. O'Conner isn't a fan of the sensational EastEnders and no one sums that up more than Ronnie so he has to get rid of her. Its a shame because Womack is a decent actress but I think what ruined her was DTC tying to turn her into Archie. When she returned in 2012 they had a chance to redeem her as she paid for her part in the baby swap with jail time. There was no need to turn her into some killer gangster.
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Old 07-11-2016, 10:57
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Do we know for sure that they're gonna die? I hope Roxy doesn't
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Old 07-11-2016, 11:58
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I think on the surface (no pun intended ) it sounds lame but the reality could be very different.

Like Ten_Ben says in his excellent post, the pathos would be what makes their deaths tragic. And Rita and Sam would definitely pull these performances out of the bag.

Like you I'll reserve judgement but I think this could be a really powerful ending for both of them if the writing is there.
I think it could have been if they hadn't already butchered Ronnie's character with the gangstery-murdery stuff.

EastEnders generally has a tradition of bringing villains to justice so I do believe that Ronnie will be killed off. However, I don't think that Ronnie dying in a noble attempt to save her sister's life is a fitting exit given that she has been responsible for killing two people since her 2013 return. She should not go out as a 'heroine'. Hence why I think there will be more to what the Sun has already revealed.

Agree. O'Conner isn't a fan of the sensational EastEnders and no one sums that up more than Ronnie so he has to get rid of her. Its a shame because Womack is a decent actress but I think what ruined her was DTC tying to turn her into Archie. When she returned in 2012 they had a chance to redeem her as she paid for her part in the baby swap with jail time. There was no need to turn her into some killer gangster.
Absolutely. SOC wants rid of these characters. Ronnie in particular represents everything that was wrong with EastEnders in the last decade: paper-thin characters, and cheap shock n lolz.
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