[satman17]

I'm seriously considering going back to android and the s7 edge as I find the ios10 shockingly bad????

[Jimmy_Carter]

Wait till you try Android then you will know what shockingly bad is!

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by satman17

I'm seriously considering going back to android and the s7 edge as I find the ios10 shockingly bad????

I have recently acquired an ordinary S7 and a brand new iPhone 7 which the wife is using. I absolutely love the S7 and so glad I got it, no regrets.

The IP7 was a gift and that is the only plus as far as I'm concerned. It has poor battery life and iOS is simply awful in my estimation. I've had an iPad in the past so am no stranger to iOS but had forgotten just how restrictive it can be after using Android, plus it looks terribly dated. My wife is using the iPhone and she' not happy with it at all.

You will totally love the Edge - far superior in just about every way - enjoy.

[Ed3925]

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Originally Posted by satman17

I'm seriously considering going back to android and the s7 edge as I find the ios10 shockingly bad????

Bad in what way?

Android on the S7 Edge is very easily customised to your liking, especially by using Nova Launcher, which is free in the Play Store and replaces the standard home screen with a more attractive and usable set up. The paid version of Nova has additional features, which I find useful.

[Gigabit]

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Carter

Wait till you try Android then you will know what shockingly bad is!

This post.

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

This post.

Clearly you have a different view. However, as I own both phones I feel in a good position to make comment. Honestly speaking Android is the only game in town now. Apple are only concerned with beautifying their products, all real innovation has ceased.

They are in urgent need of a new innovating leader not a bean counter.

[BKM]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Clearly you have a different view. However, as I own both phones I feel in a good position to make comment.

Whereas I have used both and very much prefer IOS!!!

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by BKM

Whereas I have used both and very much prefer IOS!!!

You may prefer it but that doesn't mean it's good. It's fast becoming an 'also ran' when compared to Android. Don't be too sad though as you can change to Android at upgrade time.

It works fine for the average Jane and Joe but it is something of an OS for dummies don't you think?

[Gigabit]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Clearly you have a different view. However, as I own both phones I feel in a good position to make comment. Honestly speaking Android is the only game in town now. Apple are only concerned with beautifying their products, all real innovation has ceased.

They are in urgent need of a new innovating leader not a bean counter.

What I meant was, that post was utterly, utterly ridiculous.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Faust

You may prefer it but that doesn't mean it's good. It's fast becoming an 'also ran' when compared to Android. Don't be too sad though as you can change to Android at upgrade time.

It works fine for the average Jane and Joe but it is something of an OS for dummies don't you think?

So what doesn't it do, that people other than dummies need it to do on a day to day basis?

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

So what doesn't it do, that people other than dummies need it to do on a day to day basis?

Hey, I said it worked fine. Even the most ardent Apple fan would have to admit there has been a distinct lack of innovation at Apple of late, in fact since SJ passed. It used to be that others followed when Apple released a product. It's now Apple that's doing the following.

The iP7 release has to be the biggest non-event stunt Apple has pulled in years.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Hey, I said it worked fine. Even the most ardent Apple fan would have to admit there has been a distinct lack of innovation at Apple of late, in fact since SJ passed. It used to be that others followed when Apple released a product. It's now Apple that's doing the following.

The iP7 release has to be the biggest non-event stunt Apple has pulled in years.

Yes, innovation, SJ, yaddy yaddy.

But what doesn't it do, that people other than dummies need it to do on a day to day basis?

What sorts of things do you find yourself, on a regular basis, doing on an Android phone that you simply can't do on an iPhone because of the limitations of iOS?

Not for the first time, you'd think SJ was plucking revolutionary products out of his backside every tine he went on a stage. In the time he was at Apple, there was the original Mac, the iPod, the iPhone. And the iPad, which at the time was slated by many for just being a big iPhone.

Not to mention that 'innovation' often seems to get confused with 'invention'. there is plenty of innovation in Apple products if you look past what something looks like.

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Yes, innovation, SJ, yaddy yaddy.

But what doesn't it do, that people other than dummies need it to do on a day to day basis?

What sorts of things do you find yourself, on a regular basis, doing on an Android phone that you simply can't do on an iPhone because of the limitations of iOS?

Ever heard the saying 'there's none as deaf as those who will not hear'? It's restrictive and non-customisable and that's just for starters. If it was all laid out for you in black and white you wouldn't accept the evidence so there's little point. Your responses are indicative of that.

SJ was very good at 'acquiring' other people's ideas and products then improving them with a keen eye for detail and bringing them to market. I'm afraid TC isn't cut from the same cloth.

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by BKM

Whereas I have used both and very much prefer IOS!!!

And i prefer Android.

No OS is bad. Ignore the trolls who say otherwise. Both are very good and very feature rich.

I bought the missus an S7 Edge for her birthday last thursday, and it is a thing of beauty. She tried both phones and wanted the S7 Edge. I would as well. For me, iphones are a bit boring looks wise in both software and hardware.

But it's personal preference.

[BKM]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Ever heard the saying 'there's none as deaf as those who will not hear'? It's restrictive and non-customisable and that's just for starters.

You are really pushing your own agenda aren't you!!!

Your" restrictive and non-customisable" troll could be countered by "IOS just works intuitively and gets it right in almost all cases" - and without needing all the tweaks and options available in Android. I do software development all day and I don't need to play with infinite options on my smartphone at night as well.

As for "moving to Android at next upgrade" I have tried it on several handsets and it isn't for me. YMMV

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

And i prefer Android.

A very sensible choice....it very much depends on what you want a smartphone to do!

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Ever heard the saying 'there's none as deaf as those who will not hear'? It's restrictive and non-customisable and that's just for starters. If it was all laid out for you in black and white you wouldn't accept the evidence so there's little point. Your responses are indicative of that.

SJ was very good at 'acquiring' other people's ideas and products then improving them with a keen eye for detail and bringing them to market. I'm afraid TC isn't cut from the same cloth.

Its difficult to be deaf, when you're not actually telling me anything. (Other than trotting out empty cliched rhetoric.)

Third time lucky maybe....

What doesn't iOS do, that you need it to do on a day to day basis?

Not counting the Mac, the iPod or the iPhone, could you give a list of half a dozen or so examples of these things that SJ brought to market?

[d'@ve]

Had the choice of iP7, S7 edge or S7. Neither would cost me a penny.

Looked into in great detail and chose the Sammy S7. Delighted that I did, the other two both had potential issues that I could not live with, so did the Sammy S6 and iP6 incidentally. No issues at all with my S7 once I got rid of the most annoying of the bloatware (half an hour's job).

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by BKM

You are really pushing your own agenda aren't you!!!

Your" restrictive and non-customisable" troll could be countered by "IOS just works intuitively and gets it right in almost all cases" - and without needing all the tweaks and options available in Android. I do software development all day and I don't need to play with infinite options on my smartphone at night as well.

As for "moving to Android at next upgrade" I have tried it on several handsets and it isn't for me. YMMV

A very sensible choice....it very much depends on what you want a smartphone to do!

It's just indicative of Apple's current malaise though. Just look at what Microsoft are doing with the Surface Studio. Granted it's very expensive and it's not a consumer item, but it is such a leap forward in regards the touch screen technology and the design.

Not that many years ago you would have expected Apple to come up with something like the Surface Studio but not now. Why is that? and don't forget my main computer is an iMac so whatever you think my agenda may be you would be wrong.

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by d'@ve

Had the choice of iP7, S7 edge or S7. Neither would cost me a penny.

Looked into in great detail and chose the Sammy S7. Delighted that I did, the other two both had potential issues that I could not live with, so did the Sammy S6 and iP6 incidentally. No issues at all with my S7 once I got rid of the most annoying of the bloatware (half an hour's job).

I'm loving my S7 too, great bit of kit. What bloatware did you jettison out of interest?

[Ed3925]

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Originally Posted by Faust

I'm loving my S7 too, great bit of kit. What bloatware did you jettison out of interest?

I've got the S7 Edge:

Pros...

The quality of the display is exceptional, sharp and unusually vivid
Very fast and slick
Readily customised to your liking
Good 4G reception
Good camera
I use quite a few apps which are only available on Android
Very nice design/appearance
Decent battery life

Cons...

Holding the phone without touching the edges of the screen takes a bit of getting used to
The Samsung TouchWizz home screen is not the most aesthetically pleasing (but can easily be replaced)
Compatibility with certain network features eg. EE 4G calling, requires the correct ROM, as opposed to the situation with iOS.

[CheshireBumpkin]

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Originally Posted by Ed3925

I use quite a few apps which are only available on Android

Genuine (non-trolling) question - which apps are available on Android but not iOS?

[d'@ve]

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Originally Posted by Faust

I'm loving my S7 too, great bit of kit. What bloatware did you jettison out of interest?

I can't even remember now, there were loads of "updated apps" notifications though and I just went into app control and ditched everything I wasn't sure I'd want to use as I rarely use apps anyway. Battery life has improved, now up at 3 days though to be fair I'm a light user and turn it off every night.

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by d'@ve

I can't even remember now, there were loads of "updated apps" notifications though and I just went into app control and ditched everything I wasn't sure I'd want to use as I rarely use apps anyway. Battery life has improved, now up at 3 days though to be fair I'm a light user and turn it off every night.

Just one word of caution. Don't try to ditch S. Planner even if you don't use it as it's integrated into the system itself and can cause all sorts of issues if deleted. If you use Google Calendar (as I do) simply turn off notifications for S. Planner to avoid duplication.

[Ed3925]

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Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin

Genuine (non-trolling) question - which apps are available on Android but not iOS?

As a mobile geek, I've got various network related apps. None of them work on iOS. I don't think iOS will release the required information for the apps to work.

[BKM]

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Originally Posted by Ed3925

As a mobile geek, I've got various network related apps. None of them work on iOS. I don't think iOS will release the required information for the apps to work.

It's nothing to do with not releasing the information....Apps have to get this data from the OS and the API on IOS won't allow this level of access. Similarly for low-level GPS satellite data