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Emmerdale - Finn & Kasim
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samcains90
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“I like the idea of Finn visiting Kasim as he helped him in the crash and wants to make sure he is ok. And if nobody else is visiting him then he probably feels bad for Kasim so keeps going back.
But the fact he fancies him and is wondering if he is gay is creepy. Would he be visiting still if the person in a coma was female, an older male, or a less attractive male?

I would prefer Finn just to be visiting because it is a nice thing to do, then when Kasim wakes up they build up a friendship which may later become romantic.”

BIB: I believe he would based on the end scene last week and just the character as he has been built up over the years. This guy just so happens to be someone Finn is attracted to and so the story is focussing on that.
Shawn_Lunn
11-11-2016
If they're putting this much emphasis on Kasim, then he's probably going to be both. He's obviously someone who witnessed Emma pushing James to his death and could be her downfall (if Ashley doesn't turn out to be) and may at some point become a love interest for Finn. Although that could be a little awkward.
Glendarroch
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Did I miss something? ”

Auto correct at its best
Ancalagon
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I have been trying to think of the name of that movie since this Finn story started so thanks

I don't see how this is going to work out in Finn's favor, How does he even know this guy is gay? Did he have a rainbow or HRC bumper sticker on his car?”

Why does he need to know if the guy is gay? Finn isn't thinking of having a romantic relationship with this guy (though being a soap it could develop to that)

Finn is doing something that in psychology I believe they call transference (well kind of but not quite) His Dad died in this horrible accident and so he is channelling that need for his Dad to survive onto the stranger he saved, in his mind it will likely make it less of a tragedy or dull the pain of his loss, it's likely he is also using it as a way of not having to deal with his Dad's death.

It's not like he is just going there to size this guy up as a dating prospect.

EDIT: I had only seen up to Tuesdays episode of this week when I wrote this- I've since been told Finn has out right stated a more than friends interest in him- so much for my deep analysis of Finn
Mark_Washingto1
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Why does he need to know if the guy is gay? Finn isn't thinking of having a romantic relationship with this guy (though being a soap it could develop to that)

Finn is doing something that in psychology I believe they call transference (well kind of but not quite) His Dad died in this horrible accident and so he is channelling that need for his Dad to survive onto the stranger he saved, in his mind it will likely make it less of a tragedy or dull the pain of his loss, it's likely he is also using it as a way of not having to deal with his Dad's death.

It's not like he is just going there to size this guy up as a dating prospect.”

Yes he is, Finn is clearly interested in him. Why do you think he was asking Aaron and Victoria if the guy having a Kylie Minogue CD made him gay?
Ancalagon
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Yes he is, Finn is clearly interested in him. Why do you think he was asking Aaron and Victoria if the guy having a Kylie Minogue CD made him gay?”

Well I should have clarified I have not watched Wednesdays or Thursdays yet- my opinion was based on what I had seen up to that point.
craig_25
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Yes he is, Finn is clearly interested in him. Why do you think he was asking Aaron and Victoria if the guy having a Kylie Minogue CD made him gay?”

Finn fancies him. He's hardly planning a wedding. lol
Mark_Washingto1
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Well I should have clarified I have not watched Wednesdays or Thursdays yet- my opinion was based on what I had seen up to that point.”

Ok I got you.

Originally Posted by craig_25:
“Finn fancies him. He's hardly planning a wedding. lol”

But how can you like someone you've never even spoken to. For all Finn knows this guy could be Emmerdale's next serial killer
Ancalagon
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Ok I got you.



But how can you like someone you've never even spoken to. For all Finn knows this guy could be Emmerdale's next serial killer”

Physical attraction? the rest would be in his head at this point.
Mark_Washingto1
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Physical attraction? the rest would be in his head at this point.”

I could see Finn thinking dude is hot, but according to the nurse he's been visiting him everyday and the fact that he wants to know if the guy is gay or not shows he wants something more.
Teifiboi
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Ok I got you.



But how can you like someone you've never even spoken to. For all Finn knows this guy could be Emmerdale's next serial killer”

There could well be a vacancy for this role before too much longer.....
craig_25
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I could see Finn thinking dude is hot, but according to the nurse he's been visiting him everyday and the fact that he wants to know if the guy is gay or not shows he wants something more.”

Really all it shows is that Finn fancies him, and would like him to be gay.

It can be said of anyone you meet, when you go on a first date with a guy off Tinder or whatever, how the hell do you know if he's a serial killer or not? It's only 3 months later when you're hanging off a meat hook, semi conscious, with him sticking your own toenails down your throat while he drains your blood that you think....'oh shit!'
James J
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“It can be said of anyone you meet, when you go on a first date with a guy off Tinder or whatever, how the hell do you know if he's a serial killer or not? It's only 3 months later when you're hanging off a meat hook, semi conscious, with him sticking your own toenails down your throat while he drains your blood that you think....'oh shit!'”

Talking from past experience or...?
craig_25
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Talking from past experience or...? ”

I've had boyfriends that made me feel like that was the case everytime I was in their company yeah!!

TORTUOUSLY DULL
cyrilandshirley
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“True! But Finn is generally a really nice lad, he's a bit wet but essentially he tries hard to be good to people, and always tries to do the right thing. He's polar opposite to Aaron and Robert and most people see him as just dull.

I agree with the other poster who mentioned that Finn would in reality be quite unlucky in love, he's just not got any edge to him and whilst on paper, he's actually a decent catch, in reality he'd be a bit of a doormat to most other gay men. Aaron is an example of this, he seduced Finn and got what he wanted from him then was actually quite cruel in how he cast him aside.

I'd actually quite like to see Finn develop his own business and have success in that way, and find an equally succesful and loving partner. I'm not sure we've ever had a professional, decent, stable gay couple in ED before?!”

That would be ace - no they've not really done that, except with Paul and his partner, but that was an exit story really. Doubt if Finn will be allowed though, you know, what with the A Gays having to be the main focus.

I don't find this story creepy at all by the way! Jeez, Finn's in a vulnerable state, has spent time by the guy's bed feeling lonely and pouring out his heart, and now he's noticed the guy is cute, give him a break. It's not like he's started looking under the covers or anything, he's not Lachlan.
James J
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“I've had boyfriends that made me feel like that was the case everytime I was in their company yeah!!

TORTUOUSLY DULL”




Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“That would be ace - no they've not really done that, except with Paul and his partner, but that was an exit story really. Doubt if Finn will be allowed though, you know, what with the A Gays having to be the main focus.

I don't find this story creepy at all by the way! Jeez, Finn's in a vulnerable state, has spent time by the guy's bed feeling lonely and pouring out his heart, and now he's noticed the guy is cute, give him a break. It's not like he's started looking under the covers or anything, he's not Lachlan. ”

I agree - he's not Lachlan by any stretch. And I think he's aware he's likely not going to be gay and will be okay with that entirely. I guess it's the not knowing. I think the attachment is natural given his vulnerable state but he'd never take it to psychotic levels. At the least I hope Kazim can be a good friend to him, he could do with a few more! Would be nice to see him... gasp... smile?!!
cyrilandshirley
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
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I agree - he's not Lachlan by any stretch. And I think he's aware he's likely not going to be gay and will be okay with that entirely. I guess it's the not knowing. I think the attachment is natural given his vulnerable state but he'd never take it to psychotic levels. At the least I hope Kazim can be a good friend to him, he could do with a few more! Would be nice to see him... gasp... smile?!!”

Good point, can't remember the last time I saw Finn smiling! Mind you, his Mum did just push his Dad off a bridge.
sheepiefarm
11-11-2016
Poor Finn - his best hope for a relationship is to sit in the room with a guy in a coma and "fantasise" about what might be.

Will he still be visiting this guy-in-a-coma in 6 months time - probably knowing Finn's luck with guys


I did laugh at Aaron's comment about it being creepy - no creepier than getting married to a guy who tried to kill all your nearest & dearest I'd say
cyrilandshirley
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“Poor Finn - his best hope for a relationship is to sit in the room with a guy in a coma and "fantasise" about what might be.

Will he still be visiting this guy-in-a-coma in 6 months time - probably knowing Finn's luck with guys


I did laugh at Aaron's comment about it being creepy - no creepier than getting married to a guy who tried to kill all your nearest & dearest I'd say ”

Oh is that where the creepy comment came from? I usually go out to make a cuppa when he comes on.

I think 6 months of coma visiting might push the definition of a slow-burner.

Specially if the poor fella carked it at the end without waking up.
Mark_Washingto1
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Teifiboi:
“There could well be a vacancy for this role before too much longer..... ”

There is always an opening for more serial killers. Emmerdale could go the route of Hollyoaks and have 4 running around at one time.



Originally Posted by craig_25:
“Really all it shows is that Finn fancies him, and would like him to be gay.

It can be said of anyone you meet, when you go on a first date with a guy off Tinder or whatever, how the hell do you know if he's a serial killer or not? It's only 3 months later when you're hanging off a meat hook, semi conscious, with him sticking your own toenails down your throat while he drains your blood that you think....'oh shit!'”

LMAO!!!!

I do think that Finn's infatuation with coma guy is unhealthy though, he is trying to draw a picture of this guy in his head and he is going to be in for a rude awakening when this guy wakes up and is nothing like he's been imagining.
James J
11-11-2016
I suppose it has only been a few weeks but I don't appreciate Emmerdale making us wait for this one.
samcains90
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Why does he need to know if the guy is gay? Finn isn't thinking of having a romantic relationship with this guy (though being a soap it could develop to that)

Finn is doing something that in psychology I believe they call transference (well kind of but not quite) His Dad died in this horrible accident and so he is channelling that need for his Dad to survive onto the stranger he saved, in his mind it will likely make it less of a tragedy or dull the pain of his loss, it's likely he is also using it as a way of not having to deal with his Dad's death.

It's not like he is just going there to size this guy up as a dating prospect.

EDIT: I had only seen up to Tuesdays episode of this week when I wrote this- I've since been told Finn has out right stated a more than friends interest in him- so much for my deep analysis of Finn”

I still think you were right in your deep analysis of Finn and the transference.

He wouldn't have even been sat by the bedside in the first place otherwise. His curiosity about who Kasim is has grown from sitting there and talking to him.

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“That would be ace - no they've not really done that, except with Paul and his partner, but that was an exit story really. Doubt if Finn will be allowed though, you know, what with the A Gays having to be the main focus.

I don't find this story creepy at all by the way! Jeez, Finn's in a vulnerable state, has spent time by the guy's bed feeling lonely and pouring out his heart, and now he's noticed the guy is cute, give him a break. It's not like he's started looking under the covers or anything, he's not Lachlan. ”

I don't think it's creepy either.
And I thought Aaron was a little out of order.
James J
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I still think you were right in your deep analysis of Finn and the transference.

He wouldn't have even been sat by the bedside in the first place otherwise. His curiosity about who Kasim is has grown from sitting there and talking to him..”

I agree, it all started with the purest of intentions, unrelated to romance. As time has passed, I suppose the thought has entered his mind. It's normal enough, if he were straight and it were a female he'd rescued lying in a coma, he'd probably consider the same thing. I'm sure anyone would, given enough time.
trevor tiger
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I still think you were right in your deep analysis of Finn and the transference.

He wouldn't have even been sat by the bedside in the first place otherwise. His curiosity about who Kasim is has grown from sitting there and talking to him.

I don't think it's creepy either.
And I thought Aaron was a little out of order
.”

Aaron has always treated Finn like a joke. He wasn't really being helpful and giving him advice, he was just having a laugh at Finn's expense.
James J
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Aaron has always treated Finn like a joke. He wasn't really being helpful and giving him advice, he was just having a laugh at Finn's expense.”

I must say I didn't enjoy how harshly Aaron treated Finn. Does he really think he's that sad/much of a loser? Since he's meant to love his best mate Adam he could at least be nice to his (half) brother!
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