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Emmerdale - Finn & Kasim
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Shawn_Lunn
12-11-2016
Also if Kasim wakes up and actually did witness Emma bumping off James, how long will it be before she tries to kill him as well?
anne_666
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by James J:
“Anyone got any ideas where this is going?

I think Kasim should wake up already.”

He's going to wake up, he'll be straight and keep Finn in his hopeless lovelorn role.
He'll have witnessed psychotic Miss Haversham up on the bridge, she'll do im in of course and get away with that too.

Just another of the multitude of SL's they've now managed to accumulate which will hang around for ever like a bad smell.
samcains90
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Aaron has always treated Finn like a joke. He wasn't really being helpful and giving him advice, he was just having a laugh at Finn's expense.”

I feel like Aaron looks down on Finn as being the "wrong" sort of gay.
Coldwater2020
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I feel like Aaron looks down on Finn as being the "wrong" sort of gay.”

I don't think Aaron thinks one way or another about Finn. I think people are just over thinking it. And I while I do think he thinks developing a romantic relationship with a coma patient you've never actually spoken to is weird and creepy I do think he was trying to give Finn sound advice.

But Aaron likely wouldn't have had an opinion on the whole thing at all if Finn hadn't invited him to use his gaydar on coma patient.
samcains90
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“I don't think Aaron thinks one way or another about Finn. I think people are just over thinking it. And I while I do think he thinks developing a romantic relationship with a coma patient you've never actually spoken to is weird and creepy I do think he was trying to give Finn sound advice.

But Aaron likely wouldn't have had an opinion on the whole thing at all if Finn hadn't invited him to use his gaydar on coma patient.”

I'm sure you're right. Aaron's head is way too far up his own arse to be thinking of others.

Sorry. What was I thinking?!
trevor tiger
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“I don't think Aaron thinks one way or another about Finn. I think people are just over thinking it. And I while I do think he thinks developing a romantic relationship with a coma patient you've never actually spoken to is weird and creepy I do think he was trying to give Finn sound advice.

But Aaron likely wouldn't have had an opinion on the whole thing at all if Finn hadn't invited him to use his gaydar on coma patient.”

Well he couldn't have an opinion if he didn't know about the situation obviously However I think the opinion he gave and the way he spoke to Finn whilst very funny definitely shows contempt for Finn and he has always looked down on Finn in my opinion
al_capo
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Well he couldn't have an opinion if he didn't know about the situation obviously However I think the opinion he gave and the way he spoke to Finn whilst very funny definitely shows contempt for Finn and he has always looked down on Finn in my opinion”

How Aaron can look down on anybody is beyond me, atleast Finn has a sense of humour and a personality.
ianradioian
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I feel like Aaron looks down on Finn as being the "wrong" sort of gay.”

He is as camp as a row of tents, Aaron wants a straight acting dominant type, obviously lol
T.K. Mazin
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“He is as camp as a row of tents, Aaron wants a straight acting dominant type, obviously lol”

It's what Jackson would've wanted for him that's for sure...
trevon1
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“I feel like Aaron looks down on Finn as being the "wrong" sort of gay.”

Yes, Aaron is not an accepting person and seems to have hatred for gay men who are a bit effeminate.
jjwales
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“He is as camp as a row of tents”

Who, Finn? No, he's not particularly camp.
Jewels501
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Well he couldn't have an opinion if he didn't know about the situation obviously However I think the opinion he gave and the way he spoke to Finn whilst very funny definitely shows contempt for Finn and he has always looked down on Finn in my opinion”

I actually thought Aaron was quite nice. I didn't see/hear contempt. He, like many of us, just thought it was weird that Finn was acting as if Aaron could possibly tell if someone in a coma was straight or gay. He also, as many of us do, thought that the whole thing was a tad creepy. I mean Finn is falling for a guy he has never even spoken to. Even if Kasim is gay so what? He might not appreciate a stranger sitting at his bedside almost daily and seemingly already seeing him as relationship material.

I thought Aaron was quite sweet actually as well as being honest and I am not an Aaron fan usually.

Oh, yeah previously he has been pretty mean and dismissive of Finn but in that moment they had a mutual concern for Adam(on Aaron's side) and Victoria(on Finn's side).
T.K. Mazin
13-11-2016
It's amazing to think that you could get Finn to fall in love with you just by falling into a coma.

In any case, when's Finn planning to propose to Kasim? Surely a wedding is on the cards?! I think Finn should set the wedding date for Christmas Day, hopefully Kasim'll be awake by then.

Granted, Kasim might be a bit freaked out at first when he finds out that Finn has imagined their entire relationship in his head, but who cares? You see strangers getting married all the time nowadays. Kasim and Finn were destined for each other ever since that fateful day on the motorway, it was written in the stars, no doubt about that .
Jewels501
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin:
“It's amazing to think that you could get Finn to fall in love with you just by falling into a coma.

In any case, when's Finn planning to propose to Kasim? Surely a wedding is on the cards?! I think Finn should set the wedding date for Christmas Day, hopefully Kasim'll be awake by then.

Granted, Kasim might be a bit freaked out at first when he finds out that Finn has imagined their entire relationship in his head, but who cares? You see strangers getting married all the time nowadays. Kasim and Finn were destined for each other ever since that fateful day on the motorway, it was written in the stars, no doubt about that . ”

Sir, you speak much sense. I need to go shopping for a hat.
T.K. Mazin
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“Sir, you speak much sense. I need to go shopping for a hat.”

Why thank you, miss. I do try.

Who do you think should be the best man for Finn? Ross or Pete?

Although I can't see Ross being too happy with the idea of his brother getting married to a random coma patient.
Coldwater2020
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“Yes, Aaron is not an accepting person and seems to have hatred for gay men who are a bit effeminate.”

When have we seen any real evidence of that? Just because he wasn't interested in Finn who is neither particularly effeminate or camp?

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“ I'm sure you're right. Aaron's head is way too far up his own arse to be thinking of others.

Sorry. What was I thinking?!”

I think it's more a case that can't win no matter how he'd handled it.
al_capo
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin:
“Why thank you, miss. I do try.

Who do you think should be the best man for Finn? Ross or Pete?

Although I can't see Ross being too happy with the idea of his brother getting married to a random coma patient. ”

Finn will probably have both as his best men, but Ross will give him one hell of a stag do.
Teifiboi
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“Yes, Aaron is not an accepting person and seems to have hatred for gay men who are a bit effeminate.”

There was a time, before and around the time that Aaron came out, when he was in his self loathing stage, that he said something like 'I don't want to be part of that freak show'. However, Aaron has moved on and developed very considerably since then. We have seen nothing, either in the latter part of his first stint, or in his second stint, to support the contention that Aaron, as he is now, 'has a hatred for men who are a bit effeminate'. That said, I have little doubt that Aaron is a man's man, in the traditional meaning of the phrase.

Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“I actually thought Aaron was quite nice. I didn't see/hear contempt. He, like many of us, just thought it was weird that Finn was acting as if Aaron could possibly tell if someone in a coma was straight or gay. He also, as many of us do, thought that the whole thing was a tad creepy. I mean Finn is falling for a guy he has never even spoken to. Even if Kasim is gay so what? He might not appreciate a stranger sitting at his bedside almost daily and seemingly already seeing him as relationship material.

I thought Aaron was quite sweet actually as well as being honest and I am not an Aaron fan usually.

Oh, yeah previously he has been pretty mean and dismissive of Finn but in that moment they had a mutual concern for Adam(on Aaron's side) and Victoria(on Finn's side).”

I didn't see anything in Aaron's handling of Finn and Finn's 'gaydar' question that indicated to me that Aaron looked down on Finn, or was in any way hostile or contemptuous of him, he was just blunt and to the point. If Finn had felt that Aaron looked down upon him, he would never have asked the 'gaydar' question in the first place. I have to say that Finn does seem to be somewhat naive in these scenes with Aaron. He's a man in his mid 20s who's been away to university; he's knows and accepts his sexuality, I would have expected him to be a bit more cconfident and rather less driven by stereotype.

Although we haven't seen a great deal of Aaron & Finn together, they have two links in their lives: Adam (best friend/half brother) and Victoria (both are freinds with her and Aaron has history with her too).

Aaron knocked Finn back after their drunken one night stand, the day after the night that Aaron returned from prison, but I can't say that I saw anything cruel about it. It was honest and plainly spoken. That's all. There's never an ideal way of dealing with such a situation, but surely honesty is the best policy?

The worst that Aaron has treated Finn to my mind was using him in an attempt to make Robert jealous. It failed, of course. Finn soon realized what was happening. He was annoyed, but he wasn't devastated by it. In the bad behaviour stakes, it was well down the Richter scale!
trevor tiger
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“I actually thought Aaron was quite nice. I didn't see/hear contempt. He, like many of us, just thought it was weird that Finn was acting as if Aaron could possibly tell if someone in a coma was straight or gay. He also, as many of us do, thought that the whole thing was a tad creepy. I mean Finn is falling for a guy he has never even spoken to. Even if Kasim is gay so what? He might not appreciate a stranger sitting at his bedside almost daily and seemingly already seeing him as relationship material.

I thought Aaron was quite sweet actually as well as being honest and I am not an Aaron fan usually.

Oh, yeah previously he has been pretty mean and dismissive of Finn but in that moment they had a mutual concern for Adam(on Aaron's side) and Victoria(on Finn's side).”

You seem to be saying that a) Aaron wasn't unkind or contemptuous towards Finn and b) Finn deserved it if he was because his predicament is creepy, weird and daft anyway. So Aaron wins whatever

The idea that he was kind though is very bemusing. Didn't you see him rolling his eyes and being sarcastic? Maybe Finn does deserve it but that isn't the point I was making anyway. Aaron did actually make me laugh but he was also looking down on Finn and his predicament as he often does look down on Finn.
samcains90
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“I think it's more a case that can't win no matter how he'd handled it.”

Yep Aaron is so hard done by, and always, always a victim.
al_capo
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Yep Aaron is so hard done by, and always, always a victim. ”

Yep, he covers up a death, and then makes Andy think that Katie never loved him. Then he has the cheek to punch Andy when he found out that he was behind Roberts shooting- poor Aaron
Mint-Opinion
13-11-2016
Aaron is a self involved little sh!t.
molliepops
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Aaron has always treated Finn like a joke. He wasn't really being helpful and giving him advice, he was just having a laugh at Finn's expense.”

I agree I was quite surprised he didn't tell everyone else what was going on yo further his amusement. No one seems to care about poor Finn and Finn seems to care too much about everyone else. I would love this chap to wake up and fall for Finn in a big way. Let Finn have a happy storyline for a change. I'd even like them yo move away and live happy ever after not because I dint want to see Finn on screen but so the writers don't eventually break his heart again.
trevon1
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Coldwater2020:
“When have we seen any real evidence of that? Just because he wasn't interested in Finn who is neither particularly effeminate or camp.”

Didn't Aaron say he didn't want to be a part of that "freak show"? That seems pretty hateful to me.

I actually kind of liked Aaron and Finn's scenes, but ultimately Aaron has always been a bully and violent thug who only cares about himself. Now that others have pointed it out, it is clear Aaron wasn't actually trying to help Finn but just treating him like a joke.

As far as Finn and Kasim, I wouldn't mind seeing it work out just to give Finn some bit of excitement in his life so he's not always just a supporting character in other people's stories.
Ben96
13-11-2016
At least Finn has storyline of his own now!! (sort of)
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