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ED: The hypocrisy of the Whites astounds me
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Arshee_Khan
10-11-2016
Trying to brush all of 'Lucky's' misdemeanours under the carpet yet they expect everyone else who commits a crime against them to pay.
Louis_Brady
10-11-2016
Honestly the Sugdens won the title of biggest hypocrites in this episode.
They're all on the warpath demanding that Lucky confess to his heinous crimes,yet not one of them seems bothered that Robert wasn't punished for killing Katie only last year.
Not to mention Andy set up the shooting on Robert, another unpunished crime to add to the list.
Nico_D
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Louis_Brady:
“Honestly the Sugdens won the title of biggest hypocrites in this episode.
They're all on the warpath demanding that Lucky confess to his heinous crimes,yet not one of them seems bothered that Robert wasn't punished for killing Katie only last year.
Not to mention Andy set up the shooting on Robert, another unpunished crime to add to the list.”

Good point they could also state the staged burglary.

The whole thing is dumb, why did chrissie feel the need to let Andy know exactly what she had done. if she didn't do that her son would never have been at risk in the first place.
owen10
10-11-2016
All of the Whites except Rebecca are crooks

Well it would not surprise me if we hear that Rebecca was a Prostitute and was also a World famous Drugs Cartel who is on the run from the FBI
Louis_Brady
10-11-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“Good point they could also state the staged burglary.

The whole thing is dumb, why did chrissie feel the need to let Andy know exactly what she had done. if she didn't do that her son would never have been at risk in the first place.”

I love the Whites but I'm sick of this storyline, it has to end soon even if it means Lachlan will leave as a result.
There's no tension or suspense at all, it just goes round in circles. We all know Andy's name will be cleared, but Kelvins not coming back for now so why should we care anyway?
Plus I'd like to watch the Whites without Robron anywhere near them and from I've saw Robron fans would like that as well
LHolmes
11-11-2016
The whole storyline is full of hypocrites.

Robert looking down his nose at Lachlan and calling him a 'parasite' when he bumped Katie off and was as cool as a cucumber after doing it.

Not so long ago Robert couldn't stand Andy. In fact Andy's the reason he got shot.

I'm a little bit behind (beg. of this week) but it's just the same scenes on a loop (as is much of Emmerdale these days).
J-B
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“All of the Whites except Rebecca are crooks

Well it would not surprise me if we hear that Rebecca was a Prostitute and was also a World famous Drugs Cartel who is on the run from the FBI ”

MyBex is no prostitute, Ow.

Thanks.
Ancalagon
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“The whole storyline is full of hypocrites.

Robert looking down his nose at Lachlan and calling him a 'parasite' when he bumped Katie off and was as cool as a cucumber after doing it.

Not so long ago Robert couldn't stand Andy. In fact Andy's the reason he got shot.

I'm a little bit behind (beg. of this week) but it's just the same scenes on a loop (as is much of Emmerdale these days).”

This is blatantly not true.

I don't know why people seem to struggle with what happened between Katie and Robert- people seem to love to distort the facts and make out Robert killed her callously in cold blood- He pushed her out of his way, his intention was never murder. It was an unfortunate accident what happened to her.

In the aftermath of course he was quite cold and devious about covering it up. Murder implies intent- he accidentally killed her, there is no way he could of know that shoving her out of his way would have resulted in her death.
hypergreenfrog
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Louis_Brady:
“Honestly the Sugdens won the title of biggest hypocrites in this episode.
They're all on the warpath demanding that Lucky confess to his heinous crimes,yet not one of them seems bothered that Robert wasn't punished for killing Katie only last year.
Not to mention Andy set up the shooting on Robert, another unpunished crime to add to the list.”

Apart from Robert, none of the Sugdens know about either of those crimes, though, do they? They all still believe that Andy had a breakdown and just believed that Robert killed Katie, and that Robert was shot by a complete stranger.
BootsNo7
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“This is blatantly not true.

I don't know why people seem to struggle with what happened between Katie and Robert- people seem to love to distort the facts and make out Robert killed her callously in cold blood- He pushed her out of his way, his intention was never murder. It was an unfortunate accident what happened to her.

In the aftermath of course he was quite cold and devious about covering it up. Murder implies intent- he accidentally killed her, there is no way he could of know that shoving her out of his way would have resulted in her death.”

Bib absolutely true. However, the episodes this week with Rebecca going backwards and forwards to "The White House" and the risible scenes outside with Diane and the placards are making me want to switch off. The scriptwriters seem to want to pack as much into each episode as they can and I just can't take any more
craig_25
11-11-2016
I'm actually quite enjoying the grudge between each family. We all pissed our pants in our house when Diane was hobbling up the drive in heeled boots after lobbing that brick through the window!!

The hypocrisy on both sides is ridiculous I admit, but it provides Diane and Doug with the opportunity to go up against Lawrence and I enjoy that the older cast get some more airtime.
BootsNo7
11-11-2016
Yes, that is certainly a relief after all the "kidz" stuff.
Chiltons Cane
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“This is blatantly not true.

I don't know why people seem to struggle with what happened between Katie and Robert- people seem to love to distort the facts and make out Robert killed her callously in cold blood- He pushed her out of his way, his intention was never murder. It was an unfortunate accident what happened to her.

In the aftermath of course he was quite cold and devious about covering it up. Murder implies intent- he accidentally killed her, there is no way he could of know that shoving her out of his way would have resulted in her death.”


Exactly. Robert never murdered dull Katie and the sooner people stop going on about it the better. And if he did, he did us all a favour
Chiltons Cane
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“I'm actually quite enjoying the grudge between each family. We all pissed our pants in our house when Diane was hobbling up the drive in heeled boots after lobbing that brick through the window!!

The hypocrisy on both sides is ridiculous I admit, but it provides Diane and Doug with the opportunity to go up against Lawrence and I enjoy that the older cast get some more airtime.”

Yeah i agree, i loved the scenes last night of them with their banners!
sorcha_healy27
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“Exactly. Robert never murdered dull Katie and the sooner people stop going on about it the better. And if he did, he did us all a favour ”

I like Robert in fact I love a robert but let's not pretend he wasn't responsible for Katie's death
Reserved
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Louis_Brady:
“Honestly the Sugdens won the title of biggest hypocrites in this episode.
They're all on the warpath demanding that Lucky confess to his heinous crimes,yet not one of them seems bothered that Robert wasn't punished for killing Katie only last year.
Not to mention Andy set up the shooting on Robert, another unpunished crime to add to the list.”

Robert needs to leave.

The way the show tries to brush all of his crimes, and his ugly personality, under the carpet because he "loves" Aaron is beyond frustrating.

The entire show is corrupt with crime which is already ridiculous, but the character of Robert has crossed so many lines; it's unbelievable.

But that's okay, because 'Robron'... until either actor leaves, the two will remain the golden couple who can do no wrong, because love - because social media.
BootsNo7
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I like Robert in fact I love a robert but let's not pretend he wasn't responsible for Katie's death”

But being responsible and being a murderer are surely not the same thing? His behaviour afterwards was and remains awful but he did not mean to kill her I am sure. And I don't particularly like the character.
Chiltons Cane
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I like Robert in fact I love a robert but let's not pretend he wasn't responsible for Katie's death”

Wasn't murder though.
Glendarroch
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by BootsNo7:
“But being responsible and being a murderer are surely not the same thing? His behaviour afterwards was and remains awful but he did not mean to kill her I am sure. And I don't particularly like the character.”

I don't think he's a murderer. It wasn't intentional. I suspect that if u e had been honest and reported it, he would have got a lesser charge because they couldn't prove that he intended it. It was more like manslaughter.
Louis_Brady
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“Wasn't murder though.”

Nobody said it was murder, it was clearly manslaughter. However the calm and calculated way he covered it up makes it just as bad as murder imo.
Louis_Brady
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chiltons Cane:
“Exactly. Robert never murdered dull Katie and the sooner people stop going on about it the better. And if he did, he did us all a favour ”

He killed her, whether it was accidental or not, and that shouldn't just be swept under the carpet.
Lachlan didn't intend to shoot Lawrence either, but when you wave a shotgun about s**t happens.
Both deserve to be punished and Robert definitely doesn't have the right to look down his nose at the Whites after all he's done.
SULLA
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Arshee_Khan:
“Trying to brush all of 'Lucky's' misdemeanours under the carpet yet they expect everyone else who commits a crime against them to pay.”

What misdemeanours.

Shooting Larry was an accident, although he should not have had the loaded gun

He went to Court for the Indecent assault and pleaded guilrty.

Slugden and Smugden have done far worse

DRoss has done far far worse
Oldnjaded
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“What misdemeanours.

Shooting Larry was an accident, although he should not have had the loaded gun

He went to Court for the Indecent assault and pleaded guilrty.

Slugden and Smugden have done far worse

DRoss has done far far worse”

Almost no character in any soap is blameless - their crimes/misdemeanours/cheating etc etc are the drama and bread and butter of all Soaps. What's the point of people constantly bleating on about their 'hypocrisy'? If every character who has ever done anything wrong was never allowed from that day on to react to or comment on other characters' similar behaviour then all Soaps would dry up and come to a sterile end within about a month.
trevon1
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Robert needs to leave.

The way the show tries to brush all of his crimes, and his ugly personality, under the carpet because he "loves" Aaron is beyond frustrating.

The entire show is corrupt with crime which is already ridiculous, but the character of Robert has crossed so many lines; it's unbelievable.

But that's okay, because 'Robron'... until either actor leaves, the two will remain the golden couple who can do no wrong, because love - because social media.”

True. Robert is a murderer and a conceited prick who needs to in prison, especially for being a conceited prick.
LHolmes
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by BootsNo7:
“But being responsible and being a murderer are surely not the same thing? His behaviour afterwards was and remains awful but he did not mean to kill her I am sure. And I don't particularly like the character.”

I haven't watched it again since original TX so maybe I need a rewatch. What most sticks out in my mind as being awful was his cold reaction afterwards.

IIRC he did stop Katie from leaving, was heavy handed with her, and seemed pretty desperate. If she hadn't fallen at that exact moment who's to say he wouldn't have done something to her after that?

I do think the truth needs to out at some point as whatever you think of Katie she was a regular character for 15 years and a fairly likeable one. Chas's acceptance of 'Robron' after it is ridiculous.
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