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Old 11-11-2016, 08:22
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I can't stand her, I used to have respect for her when she started out at Birmingham City in what was then a predominantly a mans business. Over the last few years I have noticed she has changed and seems to be getting more like a school bully on each passing episode. She is like the type of school bully that dishes it out but wouldn't be able to take it back and takes advantage that she is protected by others in this case Lord Sugar.
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Old 11-11-2016, 08:34
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nope I stopped last year when twice she tried to interfere in the tasks and was throwing people under the bus
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Old 11-11-2016, 08:45
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So the consensus of the Brady-bashers is that it is all right for Lord Sugar to criticise Jessica's "for my dad" negotiations as unbusinesslike but an outrage when Karren makes the same point about Alana. Does the double standard only apply to cigars?

And Lord Sugar also told Alana "that's not how business works".
to be fair I thought both these comments were unnecessary too especially the that's not how business works, I was rooting for alana she stood up for herself well
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:07
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I have to say that I've never been one to indulge in the Karren bashing that goes on on here.

However that said, I do think she came across particularly and unneccesarily nasty and snide tonight, especially with what she said to and about Alana. Even my OH said at that point, 'She is the last person to call anyone else on using their womanly wiles to their advantage'.
She didn't use her "womanly wiles" to get where she is though. Where did you get that impression?
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:07
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to be fair I thought both these comments were unnecessary too especially the that's not how business works, I was rooting for alana she stood up for herself well
We need to put it into the context of what the process is designed for, at least from Lord Sugar's point of view (and therefore also Claude's and Karren's). That is, to find out which candidates are most likely to make a success of running their business and giving Lord Sugar a return on his (not the BBC's) £250,000.

Obviously, from the producers' and BBC's point of view, high viewing figures are more important but let that slide for the moment.

So Lord Sugar needs to know who can negotiate, not who can beg or make up stories about their fathers' smoking habits. Hence the resigned "that's not how business works".

Alana got a deal. Good for her. Her tactics did work, and will probably work again in future but only as a one-off. As a strategy for repeat business with a supplier, or for high value sales, or where the vendor is not pining for bed, it is hopeless. That is why Karren's and Lord Sugar's criticisms were valid in the context of trying to identify the best business prospect.

But of course, the task is flawed because it is just a series of low-cost, one-off interactions. I'm not sure what they can do about that.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:24
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The 'Harsh but fair' segment on 'You're Fired' is a joke. You can sense the guests and Rhod thinking 'What a b*tch!' but restrain themselves from stating it.

Claude is much better and more pleasant.
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:17
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We need to put it into the context of what the process is designed for
Television entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less.

If the producers think that Brady being an unpleasant bitch adds to the entertainment value of the show, that's up to them.
I personally disagree and am incresingly sure that it's just her true colours shining through.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:05
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Did anyone see poor Alanas face after Brady tried to belittle her.she seems to have it in for younger more attractive women .I notice she doesn't go after the guys so much in that way.I prefer Claude as well his criticism is much more constructive.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:08
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I don't know if anybody remembers her interviewing Alex back when she was part of the interview profess. All she could concentrate on was his being "good looking and charming" and telling him not to be embarrassed about it; she even reported it back in the Boardroom as feedback!!!!! I never did get the relevance to business. I just find her a hypocrite.
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Old 11-11-2016, 12:02
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I think Karen Brady generally gets a rough ride on here. There's a £250,000 business deal up for grabs here. They need to be tough - if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

However, I found myself gobsmacked at her comments last night. Karen's dragging of Alana was terrible. They were totally unnecessary and, in my opinion, overstepped the mark.

i do think however, she is definitely edited to be the "bitch". They can take those facial expressions and insert them wherever they want to make her look like a bitch.
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Old 11-11-2016, 12:05
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So the consensus of the Brady-bashers is that it is all right for Lord Sugar to criticise Jessica's "for my dad" negotiations as unbusinesslike but an outrage when Karren makes the same point about Alana. Does the double standard only apply to cigars?

And Lord Sugar also told Alana "that's not how business works".
Jessica's lie about her dad wanting cigars was pointless, ridiculous, blatantly unrealistic, and above all didn't work.

Meanwhile, Alana simply being sweet, polite and goofy did work, but she's been criticised as if she had her tits out and was flirting with the bloke or something.
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Old 11-11-2016, 12:56
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
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Old 11-11-2016, 13:05
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
Soft pron, I believe.
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Old 11-11-2016, 13:09
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
She worked for Sullivan at the Sunday Sport I think. She is definitely a hypocrite and plays the sexism card when it suits. She's a millionairess and Baroness due to being in the right place at the right time, plus being born into money. She lost all credibility for me last night.
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Old 11-11-2016, 13:36
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Karren really has it in for Alana this series (in a previous week I think she even criticised her when it had been Claude who was actually shadowing her team, not Karren). She always seems to have one candidate she has it in for and goes after at every opportunity – usually one of the women, for all of Karren's talk of supporting women in business. I thought Alana acquitted herself well when Karren attacked her in the boardroom.

And what was Karren wearing? That dress made her look very saggy.
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Old 11-11-2016, 18:26
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
Ann summers and the Sunday sport - 😉
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Old 11-11-2016, 19:02
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Karren really has it in for Alana this series (in a previous week I think she even criticised her when it had been Claude who was actually shadowing her team, not Karren). She always seems to have one candidate she has it in for and goes after at every opportunity – usually one of the women, for all of Karren's talk of supporting women in business. I thought Alana acquitted herself well when Karren attacked her in the boardroom.

And what was Karren wearing? That dress made her look very saggy.
...and the look on Karrens face when Alana stood up to her was a picture; she hated it!!
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Old 11-11-2016, 19:23
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I found her criticisms frustrating last night, while usually harsh but fair she seemed to talk complete rubbish.

Saying Alana was playing the 'pathetic female', didn't use the tactic she would have used and the guy gave her the deal because he wanted to got to bed. - When in reality, she got a good deal, the guy was buying into her and surely what tactics depend on what person you're dealing with.

It just felt odd and unnecessary.
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Old 11-11-2016, 20:15
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Alana was sloaning it up to get them cigars and in Belgravia that works, they like to do business with their own that lot
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Old 11-11-2016, 22:29
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I don't know if anybody remembers her interviewing Alex back when she was part of the interview profess. All she could concentrate on was his being "good looking and charming" and telling him not to be embarrassed about it; she even reported it back in the Boardroom as feedback!!!!! I never did get the relevance to business. I just find her a hypocrite.
Yes! I do recall that and remember finding it a really odd line of questioning and it does make her look a hypocrite. Sadly I have to agree that Karen on TA seems to have stepped over the line from harsh but fair to condescending witch and it's uncomfortable to watch.
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Old 12-11-2016, 00:18
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to be fair I thought both these comments were unnecessary too especially the that's not how business works, I was rooting for alana she stood up for herself well
That may well have been the point of that particular edit.

Quiet, sad-eyed Alana stood up for herself (in a quiet and sad-eyed way) when her tactics were criticised.

Loud, voluble Jessica was uncharacteristically silent/silenced.

These comments are entirely about the edits for each contestant, rather than my personal opinion about the individuals.
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Old 12-11-2016, 00:25
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Did anyone see poor Alanas face after Brady tried to belittle her.she seems to have it in for younger more attractive women .I notice she doesn't go after the guys so much in that way.I prefer Claude as well his criticism is much more constructive.
I noticed it. It seemed like the poor lass was gonna burst into tears.

I hope she gets fired soon. I don't mean it in a nasty way but she seems so sweet and it's almost like she gets picked on for that. Some of the guys are awful to her and Brady is just unnecessarily nasty to heh.

Brady picked on Vana last year too for an unknown reason.

But as someone has pointed out she was full of praise for Rosin two series ago when she flirted her way to a killer discount on the diamond.
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Old 12-11-2016, 00:41
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She p*ssed me off more than ANY of the contestants in the recent episode, and that's saying something especially when the likes of Sofiane are still there. If that was a male candidate putting on the charm to win over a female then nothing negative would have been said by Karen. I don't mind her observations but that was clearly personal with Alana.

(I used to like Karen, BTW.)
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Old 13-11-2016, 00:29
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She didn't use her "womanly wiles" to get where she is though. Where did you get that impression?
I didn't say she had ... I said my OH, on hearing Karren calling out Alana for being 'a pathetic female' in her negotiations with the cigars, had commented on how she was being a hypocrite. I didn't question him on it (as I was concentrating on the show) but it's unusual for him to come out with something like that.

But neither of us said that Karren Brady had used her womanly wiles to (quoting you) "to get where she is today."
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Old 13-11-2016, 11:30
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I need response to the question in the thread, there is such overwhelming evidence of Karren's increasingly appalling behaviour that only someone on her payroll could possibly defend her.
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