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I can't stand her, I used to have respect for her when she started out at Birmingham City in what was then a predominantly a mans business. Over the last few years I have noticed she has changed and seems to be getting more like a school bully on each passing episode. She is like the type of school bully that dishes it out but wouldn't be able to take it back and takes advantage that she is protected by others in this case Lord Sugar.
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nope I stopped last year when twice she tried to interfere in the tasks and was throwing people under the bus
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So the consensus of the Brady-bashers is that it is all right for Lord Sugar to criticise Jessica's "for my dad" negotiations as unbusinesslike but an outrage when Karren makes the same point about Alana. Does the double standard only apply to cigars?
And Lord Sugar also told Alana "that's not how business works". |
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I have to say that I've never been one to indulge in the Karren bashing that goes on on here.
However that said, I do think she came across particularly and unneccesarily nasty and snide tonight, especially with what she said to and about Alana. Even my OH said at that point, 'She is the last person to call anyone else on using their womanly wiles to their advantage'. |
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to be fair I thought both these comments were unnecessary too especially the that's not how business works, I was rooting for alana she stood up for herself well
Obviously, from the producers' and BBC's point of view, high viewing figures are more important but let that slide for the moment. So Lord Sugar needs to know who can negotiate, not who can beg or make up stories about their fathers' smoking habits. Hence the resigned "that's not how business works". Alana got a deal. Good for her. Her tactics did work, and will probably work again in future but only as a one-off. As a strategy for repeat business with a supplier, or for high value sales, or where the vendor is not pining for bed, it is hopeless. That is why Karren's and Lord Sugar's criticisms were valid in the context of trying to identify the best business prospect. But of course, the task is flawed because it is just a series of low-cost, one-off interactions. I'm not sure what they can do about that. |
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The 'Harsh but fair' segment on 'You're Fired' is a joke. You can sense the guests and Rhod thinking 'What a b*tch!' but restrain themselves from stating it.
Claude is much better and more pleasant. |
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We need to put it into the context of what the process is designed for
If the producers think that Brady being an unpleasant bitch adds to the entertainment value of the show, that's up to them. I personally disagree and am incresingly sure that it's just her true colours shining through. |
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Did anyone see poor Alanas face after Brady tried to belittle her.she seems to have it in for younger more attractive women .I notice she doesn't go after the guys so much in that way.I prefer Claude as well his criticism is much more constructive.
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I don't know if anybody remembers her interviewing Alex back when she was part of the interview profess. All she could concentrate on was his being "good looking and charming" and telling him not to be embarrassed about it; she even reported it back in the Boardroom as feedback!!!!! I never did get the relevance to business. I just find her a hypocrite.
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I think Karen Brady generally gets a rough ride on here. There's a £250,000 business deal up for grabs here. They need to be tough - if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
However, I found myself gobsmacked at her comments last night. Karen's dragging of Alana was terrible. They were totally unnecessary and, in my opinion, overstepped the mark. i do think however, she is definitely edited to be the "bitch". They can take those facial expressions and insert them wherever they want to make her look like a bitch. |
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So the consensus of the Brady-bashers is that it is all right for Lord Sugar to criticise Jessica's "for my dad" negotiations as unbusinesslike but an outrage when Karren makes the same point about Alana. Does the double standard only apply to cigars?
And Lord Sugar also told Alana "that's not how business works". Meanwhile, Alana simply being sweet, polite and goofy did work, but she's been criticised as if she had her tits out and was flirting with the bloke or something. |
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
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Karren really has it in for Alana this series (in a previous week I think she even criticised her when it had been Claude who was actually shadowing her team, not Karren). She always seems to have one candidate she has it in for and goes after at every opportunity – usually one of the women, for all of Karren's talk of supporting women in business. I thought Alana acquitted herself well when Karren attacked her in the boardroom.
And what was Karren wearing? That dress made her look very saggy. |
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I could be wrong and don't quote me but aren't her west ham bosses involved in the pron business. Perhaps a little guilty projection going on there.
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Karren really has it in for Alana this series (in a previous week I think she even criticised her when it had been Claude who was actually shadowing her team, not Karren). She always seems to have one candidate she has it in for and goes after at every opportunity – usually one of the women, for all of Karren's talk of supporting women in business. I thought Alana acquitted herself well when Karren attacked her in the boardroom.
And what was Karren wearing? That dress made her look very saggy. |
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I found her criticisms frustrating last night, while usually harsh but fair she seemed to talk complete rubbish.
Saying Alana was playing the 'pathetic female', didn't use the tactic she would have used and the guy gave her the deal because he wanted to got to bed. - When in reality, she got a good deal, the guy was buying into her and surely what tactics depend on what person you're dealing with. It just felt odd and unnecessary. |
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Alana was sloaning it up to get them cigars and in Belgravia that works, they like to do business with their own that lot
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I don't know if anybody remembers her interviewing Alex back when she was part of the interview profess. All she could concentrate on was his being "good looking and charming" and telling him not to be embarrassed about it; she even reported it back in the Boardroom as feedback!!!!! I never did get the relevance to business. I just find her a hypocrite.
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to be fair I thought both these comments were unnecessary too especially the that's not how business works, I was rooting for alana she stood up for herself well
Quiet, sad-eyed Alana stood up for herself (in a quiet and sad-eyed way) when her tactics were criticised. Loud, voluble Jessica was uncharacteristically silent/silenced. These comments are entirely about the edits for each contestant, rather than my personal opinion about the individuals. |
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Did anyone see poor Alanas face after Brady tried to belittle her.she seems to have it in for younger more attractive women .I notice she doesn't go after the guys so much in that way.I prefer Claude as well his criticism is much more constructive.
I hope she gets fired soon. I don't mean it in a nasty way but she seems so sweet and it's almost like she gets picked on for that. Some of the guys are awful to her and Brady is just unnecessarily nasty to heh. Brady picked on Vana last year too for an unknown reason. But as someone has pointed out she was full of praise for Rosin two series ago when she flirted her way to a killer discount on the diamond. |
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She p*ssed me off more than ANY of the contestants in the recent episode, and that's saying something especially when the likes of Sofiane are still there. If that was a male candidate putting on the charm to win over a female then nothing negative would have been said by Karen. I don't mind her observations but that was clearly personal with Alana.
(I used to like Karen, BTW.) |
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She didn't use her "womanly wiles" to get where she is though. Where did you get that impression?
But neither of us said that Karren Brady had used her womanly wiles to (quoting you) "to get where she is today." |
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I need response to the question in the thread, there is such overwhelming evidence of Karren's increasingly appalling behaviour that only someone on her payroll could possibly defend her.
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