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Would you watch an extended SCD with specialist dances?
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Nina_Blake
12-11-2016
No.

I pretty much gave up on Dancing a with The Stars because of this.

That, combined with ridiculous costumes, themeing, background dancers etc
collaw
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“It wouldn't be dumbed down if you watched ITT this week the French version of SCD did this and it looked interesting.

The current pros have had to learn new dances, some confirmed in the past that a set dance was new to them.

It's a new challenge and the pro and celebrity would learn new routines.”



Please NO bad idea !!!

Back to the original format for me
Fairytootoo
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by katt:
“no, sorry

I wish strictly would go back to its roots to be honest

less faffing, less props, appropriate music and sticking to the 5 main ballroom and latin dances”

Agree with this but do think instead of multiple theme weeks maybe there could be a specialist week? It could replace any of the non 10 dances too for me.
A.D.P
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“Please NO bad idea !!!

Back to the original format for me”

As said this is an " addition " not replacement for the current format.
Originally Posted by Fairytootoo:
“Agree with this but do think instead of multiple theme weeks maybe there could be a specialist week? It could replace any of the non 10 dances too for me.”

Specialist week is an idea but seems a lot of people here are against format change, my idea was a separate run.
Toasted Toad
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“I think that's the fun, TBH. The professionals are all good dancers, we have seen a few on ITT learn specialist dances recently, so it's slightly outside their comfort zone, but for all with base dancing experience they should be good. We have seen Chloe and Janette learn recently. Both did well.

It would be nice to see some extra new dances and increase the journey. I assume most of the professionals would be up for it.”

What makes you think Janette has done well? She's an extremely poor teacher because she does not know what she's doing herself. In the dance classes they went to on ITT, both learned a small amount in the style of a dance they didn't know. If they were to go off at the end of those classes and say 'great, now I can not only dance it myself but understand it well enough to teach it and spot errors in others" the teachers of those classes would be horrified. Passable imitation of a dance is not the same as mastery of it. Faking the dance is the job of the celebs, not the pros.
Fuchsia Groan
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“No.

I'm losing interest in Strictly because it has moved away from what made it so good.

What I liked about Strictly was that it was a reality show, where people (happened to be celebrities) were taken out of their comfort zone to learn something new.
They used to have pros who could teach the 10 dances and there was a standard for each dance, so there was something specific to achieve, and it mattered if you did the dance you were asked to learn and you got better scores if you danced it better.

There always was the marks for entertainment side. I think that was a useful safety net for the Show, and it allowed those who were not good at learning to dance, to contribute and hopefully get respect for trying, and feel that they fitted in too.

A big part for me is the pro dancers. Part of what made the show better is the partnership between the pro and the celeb. They should form a team. The pro should be capable of teaching all the dances, and the pairing should have a large amount of control over their performance.

Now, the producers have taken too much control, devalued the position of the pro and the Show feels much more stage-managed.

I would prefer the show to have more of a let-it-happen type of management, where the producer creates the conditions to have a learning-to-dance competition and there is more of a feeling that it matters what they actually perform and how they perform it.

If there is something specific to achieve, and the pro has the capability to do their job, then there can be more emotion generated and it becomes more interesting and a REAL Reality Show. What we have now is an imitation reality show.”

Originally Posted by katt:
“no, sorry

I wish strictly would go back to its roots to be honest

less faffing, less props, appropriate music and sticking to the 5 main ballroom and latin dances”

Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“Nope it was good as it was in the early days don't ruin it with all the changes. the show needs to go back to its basic roots”

Originally Posted by collaw:
“Please NO bad idea !!!

Back to the original format for me”

What they said.

The show can never go back to what it was - more's the pity - but it needs a selective, carefully considered refurb to restore at least some of its original features and get rid of some of the tat foisted on it in the last decade.
VicsMum
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“No.

I'm losing interest in Strictly because it has moved away from what made it so good.

What I liked about Strictly was that it was a reality show, where people (happened to be celebrities) were taken out of their comfort zone to learn something new.
They used to have pros who could teach the 10 dances and there was a standard for each dance, so there was something specific to achieve, and it mattered if you did the dance you were asked to learn and you got better scores if you danced it better.

There always was the marks for entertainment side. I think that was a useful safety net for the Show, and it allowed those who were not good at learning to dance, to contribute and hopefully get respect for trying, and feel that they fitted in too.

A big part for me is the pro dancers. Part of what made the show better is the partnership between the pro and the celeb. They should form a team. The pro should be capable of teaching all the dances, and the pairing should have a large amount of control over their performance.

Now, the producers have taken too much control, devalued the position of the pro and the Show feels much more stage-managed.

I would prefer the show to have more of a let-it-happen type of management, where the producer creates the conditions to have a learning-to-dance competition and there is more of a feeling that it matters what they actually perform and how they perform it.

If there is something specific to achieve, and the pro has the capability to do their job, then there can be more emotion generated and it becomes more interesting and a REAL Reality Show. What we have now is an imitation reality show.”

Fantastic post, fatskia.
Nina_Blake
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Fairytootoo:
“Agree with this but do think instead of multiple theme weeks maybe there could be a specialist week? It could replace any of the non 10 dances too for me.”

It may be just me, but I thought the Fusion Week was a good idea. It gave the pros a chance to stretch their creativity, and the celebs a chance to show they can retain their understanding of different styles.

I'd much rather have that than gimmicky crap like Movie Week, Musicals Week & Around The World Week.
notsolonely153
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“No.

I'm losing interest in Strictly because it has moved away from what made it so good.

What I liked about Strictly was that it was a reality show, where people (happened to be celebrities) were taken out of their comfort zone to learn something new.
They used to have pros who could teach the 10 dances and there was a standard for each dance, so there was something specific to achieve, and it mattered if you did the dance you were asked to learn and you got better scores if you danced it better.

There always was the marks for entertainment side. I think that was a useful safety net for the Show, and it allowed those who were not good at learning to dance, to contribute and hopefully get respect for trying, and feel that they fitted in too.

A big part for me is the pro dancers. Part of what made the show better is the partnership between the pro and the celeb. They should form a team. The pro should be capable of teaching all the dances, and the pairing should have a large amount of control over their performance.

Now, the producers have taken too much control, devalued the position of the pro and the Show feels much more stage-managed.

I would prefer the show to have more of a let-it-happen type of management, where the producer creates the conditions to have a learning-to-dance competition and there is more of a feeling that it matters what they actually perform and how they perform it.

If there is something specific to achieve, and the pro has the capability to do their job, then there can be more emotion generated and it becomes more interesting and a REAL Reality Show. What we have now is an imitation reality show.”

Absolutely could not agree more with all of this! Wish the producers would hear it.
Ms Babs
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“So, if say there was a SCD running say January to March, similar format but extended dances would you watch?

I am thinking.

Bollywood.
Disco.
Rock and Roll.
Lindy Hop.
Country Western.
Jazz
Flamenco
Bachata
Zouk

Maybe previous celebrities from SCD come back to extend their dance expierances, with newer more varied dances.

What dance would you like to see?”

That Dance for Comic / Sport Relief isn't it?
A.D.P
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“That Dance for Comic / Sport Relief isn't it?”

Well, it's closer than other poets earlier, that show was let's dance, they added singing now. Difference one is aimed for laughing, one is a competition.

However Ed tonight shows how fun and entertaining it would be.
Mystical123
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“No.

I'm losing interest in Strictly because it has moved away from what made it so good.

What I liked about Strictly was that it was a reality show, where people (happened to be celebrities) were taken out of their comfort zone to learn something new.
They used to have pros who could teach the 10 dances and there was a standard for each dance, so there was something specific to achieve, and it mattered if you did the dance you were asked to learn and you got better scores if you danced it better.

There always was the marks for entertainment side. I think that was a useful safety net for the Show, and it allowed those who were not good at learning to dance, to contribute and hopefully get respect for trying, and feel that they fitted in too.

A big part for me is the pro dancers. Part of what made the show better is the partnership between the pro and the celeb. They should form a team. The pro should be capable of teaching all the dances, and the pairing should have a large amount of control over their performance.

Now, the producers have taken too much control, devalued the position of the pro and the Show feels much more stage-managed.

I would prefer the show to have more of a let-it-happen type of management, where the producer creates the conditions to have a learning-to-dance competition and there is more of a feeling that it matters what they actually perform and how they perform it.

If there is something specific to achieve, and the pro has the capability to do their job, then there can be more emotion generated and it becomes more interesting and a REAL Reality Show. What we have now is an imitation reality show.”

My thoughts exactly!
Mystical123
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by katt:
“no, sorry

I wish strictly would go back to its roots to be honest

less faffing, less props, appropriate music and sticking to the 5 main ballroom and latin dances”

Exactly. Millions of people loved it - why change what wasn't broken!
EthanE
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“So, if say there was a SCD running say January to March, similar format but extended dances would you watch?

I am thinking.

Bollywood.
Disco.
Rock and Roll.
Lindy Hop.
Country Western.
Jazz
Flamenco
Bachata
Zouk

Maybe previous celebrities from SCD come back to extend their dance expierances, with newer more varied dances.

What dance would you like to see?”

Would I watch it? Yes

Would I enjoy it and keep watching it to the end? Not so sure about that

Jazz, rock and roll and Lindy hop might be good.

One dance I do quite like that might be a good addition is the hustle
reclinewithme
12-11-2016
Yes! I'd love a wide range of dances! I wouldn't necessarily want the show extended, though. I'd like some of the filler removed, the tedious vts for a start, and the pointless novelty acts up in the auditorium.
scout2006
12-11-2016
No, I wouldn't watch. I'm finding SCD quite hard work this year tbh.
Strictly_fan
12-11-2016
I would like to see them introduce more styles like rock n roll, contemporary and hip hop. Those all would be good
An Thropologist
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“No.

I'm losing interest in Strictly because it has moved away from what made it so good.

What I liked about Strictly was that it was a reality show, where people (happened to be celebrities) were taken out of their comfort zone to learn something new.
They used to have pros who could teach the 10 dances and there was a standard for each dance, so there was something specific to achieve, and it mattered if you did the dance you were asked to learn and you got better scores if you danced it better.

There always was the marks for entertainment side. I think that was a useful safety net for the Show, and it allowed those who were not good at learning to dance, to contribute and hopefully get respect for trying, and feel that they fitted in too.

A big part for me is the pro dancers. Part of what made the show better is the partnership between the pro and the celeb. They should form a team. The pro should be capable of teaching all the dances, and the pairing should have a large amount of control over their performance.

Now, the producers have taken too much control, devalued the position of the pro and the Show feels much more stage-managed.

I would prefer the show to have more of a let-it-happen type of management, where the producer creates the conditions to have a learning-to-dance competition and there is more of a feeling that it matters what they actually perform and how they perform it.

If there is something specific to achieve, and the pro has the capability to do their job, then there can be more emotion generated and it becomes more interesting and a REAL Reality Show. What we have now is an imitation reality show.”

I agree with you Fatskia. I love Strictly or think I do and plan Saturday early evening around it. I settle down to watch and then find my mind has wandered and I haven't really watched it at all. I think I like the idea of it but with so much fluff and filler I find my attention wanders.
A.D.P
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by Strictly_fan:
“I would like to see them introduce more styles like rock n roll, contemporary and hip hop. Those all would be good”

Agree.
Hamlet77
13-11-2016
No.......

NEXT..............
An Thropologist
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by EthanE:
“Would I watch it? Yes

Would I enjoy it and keep watching it to the end? Not so sure about that

Jazz, rock and roll and Lindy hop might be good.

One dance I do quite like that might be a good addition is the hustle”

They already do it, it's just they call it salsa!
Bedlam_maid
13-11-2016
Possibly, but I would rather see an extended SCD with more celebs at the start and more dances. However, I know this is a format that wouldn't work as to SCD needs to begin in September, when everyone is settling down after the summer, the finale needs to be around Christmas and the celebs need to scoop up the offers of work that they hope will stem from taking part in the series. We'd probably get fed up with it too. I think it's just right as it is but I would like to lose the gimmicky VTs.
primer
13-11-2016
maybe. although i'd rather one or two of those suggestions were incorporated into the existing show and drawn as 'wild cards' at various points in the show, either so people could dodge something they really weren't going to be any good at, or at random.
kaycee
13-11-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“It looked very good to me.”

Everyone has different likes and dislikes and that's fine. But for me, Strictly was meant to be BASED on ballroom and Latin dances, not on stage (tap and ballet) and bollywood, etc. Introduce those dances and it ceases to be Strict - which in the bb/Lat world relates to Strict tempo.

There's nothing to stop the finalists incorporating any of those dances in their Showdance of course.
bendymixer
13-11-2016
this is the most watched show on tv why alter it ?? would hate to see more none standard dances added
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