i assume the hauptsturmfuher has made a declaration on authenticity and unleashed the rank and file to fire on any dissent as treasonable.

I've enjoyed Danny & Oti's routines most weeks but the AT just didn't work for me and most of that was because of the shocking music.

With the sound turned off, it's a much better dance but I thought they were too far apart through most of it and it was very frenetic. The gancho sequence was excellent though and with different music it would have been a killer number.

However, I cannot see how that would make the same dance less frenetic, make them have the proper frame, or dance together properly.

Further, have proper intensity and connection and light and shade.

Except if it was a DIFFERENT AT to different music. And saying that is rather pointless, I think.

It was always going to be impossible to do an authentic AT to that music, and by the way my opinions are entirely my own. I, unlike many pros have taken the time to look at authentic ATs because I enjoy them.

Given the fact that they had that music, the fact that they managed to insert any AT steps into it was a minor miracle and I just find it amazing that the things being complained about were actually authentic AT steps.

That's a bit like saying I don't like them turning in a Viennese waltz.

Was it a good enough A T for SCD yes, could it have been better, yes by giving it better music it wouldn't be so fast and furious.

All the dances are judged according to how it was danced to the music, for me it did that, could it have been danced better to that music, I doubt it.

It was nice to see a comparible level of connection to AT dancers and authentic AT steps danced on SCD, and I really find it sad that those are the things people are saying they don't like about the dance. Bloody Len and his Gauchos and sweaty pampers.

Don't send me to bed with that thought!

Plenty of us watch AT.

They HAD that music, they could have used it very differently.

Ed BALLS does authentic steps an' all. It's no guarantee of 'greatness'. And there was a lot of ungainly and ugly moves.

I'm amazed that LACK of authenticity is slated for some, and excused for others.

Plenty have to adapt, it is possible.

Perhaps Danny's lack of skill in doing these authentic steps to further connection, rather than what appeared to be pointless waggling about is to fault?

I find it sad that the dance is being so, so 'talked up' by some apparantly because they like Danny, rather than any objective criteria.


Don't get me wrong. I thought it was pretty good, but not at all great, and full of faults and some ugly positioning.

It was like a couple of ninjas doing the AT when it should have been more like T'ai Chi, a sewing machine rather than an embroiderer.

Yes it had the moves, but blink and you would have missed them.

Brutal

If you watch AT would you like to show me a video where they use equivalent music?

Or a wee bit ott for a Saturday night dancing show.

Hence "brutal"

Ah

fair enough

although some people do care very very deeply about the purported authenticity or otherwise of the dances on SCD.

myself, i'll forgive most things if i've enjoyed the dance. so i don't mind that danny and oti's looked more like a paso. or that greg and natalie's rumba was straight out of the place.

I think the reason it looked frantic was in part due to the lack of A frame. If they had been further apart around the legs, it would have looked cleaner, IMO.

Yes I see what you mean and if you really know the dances it must be a bit irksome if you don't feel they are being done correctly. Richard Osman tweeted last week that as a long time fan he still can't really distinguish all the dances but he enjoys it just the same. I definitely fall into that camp although I get the general idea of the dances I think. My favourite part of the Danny/ Oti AT was probably the part when the music went very flamenco-ish and they did the amazing steppy part but I loved it all (and funnily enough I hadn't been so keen on their paso) A Saturday night celeb fuelled show will always have my kind of viewer.

It does get confusing when you are told a dance is an american smooth kind of foxtrot (possibly not exactly that) though so why not have a paso style AT . But then it would also be unfair if one couple confines themselves to the exact steps and another doesn't but with the AT again there are different styles it seems from comments in this forum. If might be interesting if they get to the final and were given this one to redo how this dance might change (not too much I'd hope!)

So I suppose we rely on the judges to even things out...I just couldn't understand someone not getting the story in the dance though. Not getting at Darcey as I like her. But hey that was last week. Onwards and upwards.