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Old 16-11-2016, 11:25
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This sad individual actually created TWO separate threads to vent his spleen over Natalie, and that is with a total of just FIVE messages.

He seems to have scuttled back underneath the stone where he crawled from, and hopefully we have heard the last of him.
This is not a very nice post Walter.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:31
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This is not a very nice post Walter.
It wasn't meant to be, and how ironic that you didn't criticise that individual for his vile, and totally uncalled for comments about Natalie, in fact you seemed to agree with him.

Pot and kettle spring to mind.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:32
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Her and Oti are now my favorite pros but this is the first time since she has been on this show that I have been thoroughly annoyed with her. She is just so OTT and a tad too desperate with Greg this year and I find it very off putting. I was rooting for her at the beginning like I do every series but she lost me about a few weeks ago. I really can't stand this partnership anymore and quite frankly I can't wait till they get eliminated.

But going back to the op, she is a sweetheart, she really is. Something is just not working with this partnership imo and yeah I'll leave at that.
I'm not sure I understand why she seems desperate, I know other posters say this too. All I see is a professional dancer being ultra positive to her student and giving him the confidence that he needs to dance well and put in a super performance.

Every one of us is different but I think that when Natalie has had celebs deemed duffers in the past, the celebs themselves know they have not got what it takes to be a good dancer and accepted it week by week with loads of encouragement and support from Natalie. With Greg, a sportsman out of his comfort zone, he still has the competitive drive to do what he can to be the best that he can be.

It may be - and this is pure assumption on my part - that Greg may respond in a negative way to critisism and feel defeated after putting in a lot of work, Natalie will respond in any way she can to pick him up, keep his confidence up and self belief, that he can do it.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:42
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It wasn't meant to be, and how ironic that you didn't criticise that individual for his vile, and totally uncalled for comments about Natalie, in fact you seemed to agree with him.

Pot and kettle spring to mind.
Maybe so but posters are allowed an opinion of the show but not of each other.

As for Natalie and Greg, I don't have pro favourites, only celebs. I am just giving my honest opinion but it seems you can take no criticism of Natalie but are easy to dish it out to posters.

I do love Greg and have followed his career but I am not fond of his dancing.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:44
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I'm not sure I understand why she seems desperate, I know other posters say this too. All I see is a professional dancer being ultra positive to her student and giving him the confidence that he needs to dance well and put in a super performance.

Every one of us is different but I think that when Natalie has had celebs deemed duffers in the past, the celebs themselves know they have not got what it takes to be a good dancer and accepted it week by week with loads of encouragement and support from Natalie. With Greg, a sportsman out of his comfort zone, he still has the competitive drive to do what he can to be the best that he can be.

It may be - and this is pure assumption on my part - that Greg may respond in a negative way to critisism and feel defeated after putting in a lot of work, Natalie will respond in any way she can to pick him up, keep his confidence up and self belief, that he can do it.
Like I said, I really like Natalie. She's my favorite on this show along with Oti. I understand your points and I agree with some of them but she's just not " the same " this series . I know this sounds odd and I can't really explain it but imo some celebrities bring the best or worst in some pros and in this case it seems to be the latter. I still really like her as a person and a pro but this partnership is just not working for me anymore.

A lot of people love them though and that's great
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:48
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In various threads in recent years quite a few people have mentioned actually meeting Natalie on the Tour shows and cruises etc., - every single comment has been extremely positive.

I am finding myself visiting this forum less and less these days, fed up with all the negativity. Yes, of course people are free to comment as they see fit, makes for dull reading though.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:50
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Seriously what male (and some females!) wouldn't want a bit of this

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...psdj1u4dam.jpg
That didn't help. I have always thought Nat had class, now not so much.

Her and Oti are now my favorite pros but this is the first time since she has been on this show that I have been thoroughly annoyed with her. She is just so OTT and a tad too desperate with Greg this year and I find it very off putting. I was rooting for her at the beginning like I do every series but she lost me about a few weeks ago. I really can't stand this partnership anymore and quite frankly I can't wait till they get eliminated.

But going back to the op, she is a sweetheart, she really is. Something is just not working with this partnership imo and yeah I'll leave at that.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:52
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Maybe so but posters are allowed an opinion of the show but not of each other.

As for Natalie and Greg, I don't have pro favourites, only celebs. I am just giving my honest opinion but it seems you can take no criticism of Natalie but are easy to dish it out to posters.

I do love Greg and have followed his career but I am not fond of his dancing.
It wasn't just criticism as you well know, it was a totally uncalled for attack, and he had to create two threads to do it. The fact that we have not heard from him since, shows that he was an obvious Troll.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:53
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In various threads in recent years quite a few people have mentioned actually meeting Natalie on the Tour shows and cruises etc., - every single comment has been extremely positive.

I am finding myself visiting this forum less and less these days, fed up with all the negativity. Yes, of course people are free to comment as they see fit, makes for dull reading though.
I do agree with you Mr C. Being a very positive person myself, I don't understand the negativity either. There is always a positive way to look at every situation. I have dancers that I prefer over others, but having said that, I would not refer to those less preferred, in a negative way.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:55
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In various threads in recent years quite a few people have mentioned actually meeting Natalie on the Tour shows and cruises etc., - every single comment has been extremely positive.

I am finding myself visiting this forum less and less these days, fed up with all the negativity. Yes, of course people are free to comment as they see fit, makes for dull reading though.
I wonder did you post something similar on the many, many nasty threads about the Cliftons? To be fair, there really haven't been many negative ones on Natalie.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:57
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[quote=Domestos;84582386]That didn't help. I have always thought Nat had class, now not so much.



Oh come on, you cant see anything, dancers have worn less on the show, who will ever forget Ola Jordan and the cat suit!!


http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...psaaxepihk.jpg
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:58
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It wasn't just criticism as you well know, it was a totally uncalled for attack, and he had to create two threads to do it. The fact that we have not heard from him since, shows that he was an obvious Troll.
Maybe they are a troll but surely it was just better to ignore the threads, as I have said, there have been far worse threads on here about other pros.
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:03
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[quote=jrTemple;84582428]
That didn't help. I have always thought Nat had class, now not so much.



Oh come on, you cant see anything, dancers have worn less on the show, who will ever forget Ola Jordan and the cat suit!!


http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...psaaxepihk.jpg
I never thought Ola had class in the first place though.
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:10
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[quote=Domestos;84582476]

I never thought Ola had class in the first place though.
True, but what a body
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:12
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[quote=jrTemple;84582522]

True, but what a body
I can't argue with that
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:17
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I think Natalie is a lovely dancer, a great teacher and good choreographer. I don't see any negative character traits.

For me, her partnership with Greg hasn't worked as well as some of her previous ones. However, I don't think it reflects on either of them. That's just the way it goes.
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:22
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That photo of Natalie wearing the black top looks as if she may have been caught out there. It's clearly very thin fabric but I suspect the photographers' flash is the reason for it being rather transparent. In fairness, she perhaps did not realise that when she chose it.
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:25
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That photo of Natalie wearing the black top looks as if she may have been caught out there. It's clearly very thin fabric but I suspect the photographers' flash is the reason for it being rather transparent. In fairness, she perhaps did not realise that when she chose it.
Plus people photo shop those pics, it might not even be real!
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:36
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I wonder did you post something similar on the many, many nasty threads about the Cliftons? To be fair, there really haven't been many negative ones on Natalie.
There have been recently. Natalie hasn't criticised the Cliftons. However you might want to protect and defend the Cliftons is no reasons to be spiteful about the other pros.
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:39
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That photo of Natalie wearing the black top looks as if she may have been caught out there. It's clearly very thin fabric but I suspect the photographers' flash is the reason for it being rather transparent. In fairness, she perhaps did not realise that when she chose it.
I was about to say the same thing, its the flash from the camera causing the apparent transparency.
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Old 16-11-2016, 16:20
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I wonder did you post something similar on the many, many nasty threads about the Cliftons? To be fair, there really haven't been many negative ones on Natalie.

Actually I did.
I certainly recall posting a few seasons back that I found some of the comments about Kevin & Karen in particular in the Spiteful Thread quite distasteful. However I have long since given up on that, just don't read that stuff any more.
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Old 16-11-2016, 17:17
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I am starting to dislike Natalie. I have found several times this series she has made the dance far too contemporary and over sexualise it, and made the dance more about her than her partner. Her rumba was a case in point and the dance she did the week after, i think it was a waltz or foxtrot. The start and finish of it was very contemporary. She doesn't seem to be choreographing the dances how they should be. Greg isn't a great dancer but he is doing ok. I think he'd do better with a better teacher/dancer though.
I must admit, I've not liked a lot of her choreography this year but I think much of that can be blamed on the music she is being given. You don't suddenly become a poor choreographer for no apparent reason.


I really like Natalie but am getting very tired of every dance wafting her skirt to show off her (petfect) bottom. It is as if she wants the audience to notice said butt and keep her and her celeb in. I even said to husband how many seconds into the dance before we "accidentally on purpose" see her derriere.
If it was "all about the butt" then we have our trophy winners already as Greg's is certainly a standout in its own right!!!

. I think she just wishes Greg was better than he is - she must have thought when the contestants were announced that she'd have a shot at winning if she got him.
Totally agree with this.

Like I said, I really like Natalie. She's my favorite on this show along with Oti. I understand your points and I agree with some of them but she's just not " the same " this series . I know this sounds odd and I can't really explain it but imo some celebrities bring the best or worst in some pros and in this case it seems to be the latter. I still really like her as a person and a pro but this partnership is just not working for me anymore.
As well as Natalie & Oti being my favourite pros too, I totally agree with this point. Greg appears not to bring out the best in her - Scott Maslen, however, absolutely did IMHO, making theirs one of my favourite partnerships EVAH. That was when Natalie was at her height for me. Like others have said, I couldn't stand her with RW but she grew on me. I also love the gentle way she was with her "duffers".
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Old 16-11-2016, 17:36
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Actually I did.
I certainly recall posting a few seasons back that I found some of the comments about Kevin & Karen in particular in the Spiteful Thread quite distasteful. However I have long since given up on that, just don't read that stuff any more.
Well done to you
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Old 16-11-2016, 17:41
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There have been recently. Natalie hasn't criticised the Cliftons. However you might want to protect and defend the Cliftons is no reasons to be spiteful about the other pros.
I don't remember being spiteful about any of the pros.
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Old 16-11-2016, 17:50
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As much as I love Natalie, I'm going to say something quite controversial here as to why I think she may be off her game this series. From the way she gazes at him (particularly in the intros to their dances) and less so through some off her body language, I think she likes Greg a little "too" much. But instead of "doing a Kristina", she is trying her best to remain professional without allowing her feelings to take over. I think she may be struggling though.

May sound stupid and far-fetched but something is definitely "pinging" in this direction for me...
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