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When I was a lad in the 80s nowhere was open for days after Christmas. A lot of places closed until the new year.
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We are losing our Christian faith. Christmas is now a capitalist festival and it won't be long before we wear burkas
What gets me is the people who hate their family, can't have a bath, eat junk food, watch a good movie, enjoy life or go for a walk. No, their pathetic lives amount to nothing but going to a shop. It can't even be an ethnic one either. So everyone has to bend over backwards for these self entitled t*ats. They probably have university degrees too. |
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We are losing our Christian faith.
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Christmas is now a capitalist festival
It's been that for a long, long time.Quote:
and it won't be long before we wear burkas Competition for "most moronic thing ever posted on Digital Spy" is always fierce, but that's a strong contender.
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What gets me is the people who hate their family, can't have a bath, eat junk food, watch a good movie, enjoy life or go for a walk. No, their pathetic lives amount to nothing but going to a shop.
Perhaps other people enjoy different things to you? Just a thought.
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Speak for themselves! I'm rather happy to earn double pay during the holiday period!
Do the people starting the petition even work these kind of hours or are they just condescending, virtue-signalling middle class saviours speaking on our behalf again? Edit: Lucky you getting double pay over Christmas. I won't be getting double pay when I am working this Christmas Day. |
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We are losing our Christian faith. Christmas is now a capitalist festival and it won't be long before we wear burkas
What gets me is the people who hate their family, can't have a bath, eat junk food, watch a good movie, enjoy life or go for a walk. No, their pathetic lives amount to nothing but going to a shop. It can't even be an ethnic one either. So everyone has to bend over backwards for these self entitled t*ats. They probably have university degrees too. ![]() Having never worked in retail, can someone answer me this question - are shop workers forced to work boxing day? |
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Wait, what? What the hell have I just read? Does having a university degree, to you, mean someone is self-entitled? What about your doctor, is (s)he self-entitled because (s)he has a degree?
![]() Having never worked in retail, can someone answer me this question - are shop workers forced to work boxing day? A lot of shops now employ seasonal, i.e. students, to work seasonal days and weekends |
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Wait, what? What the hell have I just read? Does having a university degree, to you, mean someone is self-entitled? What about your doctor, is (s)he self-entitled because (s)he has a degree?
![]() Having never worked in retail, can someone answer me this question - are shop workers forced to work boxing day? With New Years Day falling on a Sunday they could have opted out of Sunday working...they have left it too late for that now as 3 months notice has to be given. |
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It is unfortunate that some workers are in jobs that provide vital services that must be delivered on bank and public holidays. I don't think the opportunity to wander round B&Q or Tesco falls into the category of a "vital" service. It wouldn't hurt for the shops to be closed on Boxing Day so the staff could have an extra day off.
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Most people don't seem to understand the difference between working and trading.
Trading laws only affect the hours a shop can open. It doesn't stop employees being required to work behind closed doors. Lidl and Aldi usually open 8am-10pm, but the workers are there at least by 7am and leave at 11pm at the very earliest. Some of them don't walk out the door until 1am, and don't get paid for it. |
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That would be illegal, unless there is the offer of time off in lieu within a reasonable period.
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Close if only stop sale frenzied idiots rushing out to buy as if there's no tomorro.
I'd like them closed to feel a day of peace and prolong the Christmas day feeling, if also band sofa shop adverts!! |
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It is unfortunate that some workers are in jobs that provide vital services that must be delivered on bank and public holidays. I don't think the opportunity to wander round B&Q or Tesco falls into the category of a "vital" service. It wouldn't hurt for the shops to be closed on Boxing Day so the staff could have an extra day off.
On Boxing Day last year, my local bus company - Arriva - didn't operate on Boxing Day at all, so clearly companies all have different views when it comes to the day after Christmas. |
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Predictably the petition refers to time off to spend with family over the holidays 'like everyone else'.
'Everyone else' excluding emergency services, hospital workers, care staff, hotel staff, utility suppliers, everyone involved in keeping TV and radio going, restaurant staff, taxi drivers ... If they want the day off, that's fine. But don't go for the sympathy vote by pretending they're the only ones working. Except not a single one of them does, err...a bit like only some shops being open... But I'm sure you have a valid point somewhere. |
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People seem to think Oh Boxing day is just one day and shop workers will get Christmas day off, but that's not the point, I live on the Isle of Wight my 86 year old dad lives in London, I don't drive and there are no trains Christmas day or Boxing day, so if I was told I had to work Boxing day I wouldn't be able to travel to see my dad as I wouldn't be able to get back and at 86 I am not going to have many Christmases left with him am I?
If I worked as a Nurse or any other profession that traditionally had people working over the whole Christmas period least I would have a chance to book the time off or make it clear to my bosses and work mates during the year I would not be working. But I run a charity shop and am the main key holder, if my charity suddenly decide that I had to open my shop, well it wouldn't happen I would refuse. |
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First picking up Nurses. Most Hospitals try to avoid pre planned appointments.
Although my Sister works in a Renal Unit. So although not working Christmas Day or Boxing Day, the bank,holiday in liru of Christmas judging previous years, is a working day. So even the front line NHS accommodates as much as possible time off. I work for a major logistics company, contracted to a high street name. Said name this year was taken over by another high street name ( may give things away). When the site opened Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Years Day were and remain holidays. Recently we have started Sunday shifts, but good will gives us Easter Day (Sunday) off. The trouble is with a decline in manufacturing many people now work in service industry, often on low pay. For them working unsocial hours through the year it is still seen that Christmas is family time. I am lucky although single to be close to parents. Other single and married folk, wanting family time face long drives and to be having to come home for work Boxing Day puts a strain on them. The same though across the board. Being a small town (100,000) people Boxing Day has no buses or trains. So can see how some non essential workers question working. |
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If you go into nursing, your contract would probably state that you may be required to work over Christmas..
All public holidays are working days. Is part of the job. I just cannot see why the big supermarkets and stores need to be open on Boxing Day. Would it really do us any harm not to have the choice to go shopping on Boxing Day? I very much doubt it. However, some would argue there has to be that choice. I would argue that is taking the concept of choice to the utterly ridiculous! |
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Predictably the petition refers to time off to spend with family over the holidays 'like everyone else'.
'Everyone else' excluding emergency services, hospital workers, care staff, hotel staff, utility suppliers, everyone involved in keeping TV and radio going, restaurant staff, taxi drivers ... If they want the day off, that's fine. But don't go for the sympathy vote by pretending they're the only ones working. |
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I don't understand why in an era of online shopping there is any necessity for shops to be open on Boxing Day?
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That still generates the demand for replenishment, picking, packing and delivering on Boxing Day etc.
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We are losing our Christian faith. Christmas is now a capitalist festival and it won't be long before we wear burkas
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What gets me is the people who hate their family, can't have a bath, eat junk food, watch a good movie, enjoy life or go for a walk. No, their pathetic lives amount to nothing but going to a shop. It can't even be an ethnic one either.
This ethnic shop you seem to think is preferable to one of these new-fangled 'traditional' shops, aren't you worried that someone working there might be dressed in a burqa rather than a hessian, ankle-length dress and crucifix? Bit of a quandary you present here - you want to keep 'our' Christian faith but also want folk to patronise non-Christian shops.Quote:
So everyone has to bend over backwards for these self entitled t*ats. They probably have university degrees too.
That chip on your shoulder you have for anyone more successful than you (and by that, i mean EVERYONE!!) is in danger of getting so big, people will begin to confuse it for your face.
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"What gets me is the people who hate their family, can't have a bath, eat junk food, watch a good movie, enjoy life or go for a walk. No, their pathetic lives amount to nothing but going to a shop. It can't even be an ethnic one either."
That would include a lot of pensioners who live alone and go to the shops for a social visit, and company |
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When did the supermarkets start to open on boxing day? I worked at Morrisons from 2004 to 2006 and we closed on Christmas day, Boxing day and New years day, as far as I can remember it was just a small handful of high street shops that opened on Boxing day.
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I have no strong feelings about Boxing Day sales (apart from avoiding them). I do have pretty strong feelings about Christmas Eve though.
It might be because my family have always had big Christmas Eve traditions, but surely loads of families do in the evenings too – getting their kids excited about Father Christmas etc? Why should some poor sod of a retail worker be prevented from getting home in good time to enjoy that because some lazy idiot doesn’t bother with their Christmas shopping until the last minute? If you move the deadline for shopping til lunchtime Christmas Eve, they’ll still do it at the last minte, whatever the last minute happens to be. |
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I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but a large proportion of those working in supermarkets on Boxing Day seem to be students, students who seem happy to work for the money. It's likely to be their choice, so why should others dictate that they cannot work?
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