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ED: Robert and Rebecca
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trevor tiger
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Hardly. They've already told them that there's going to be a wedding in the new year. What's the point of adding drama now, when we know the outcome. I don't know why anyone is getting their knickers in such a twist.

Absolutely spot on. ”

Maybe to punish the exacting 'shippers' as I said
sheepiefarm
15-11-2016
Its utterly ludicrous if anyone is now claiming that Robert kissing Rebecca has put bisexuals in a bad light.


FFS - he shagged Aaron in his marital bed!


<rollseyes>
margarite6666
15-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Ah I see! I like Aaron and Rob together but honestly the ridiculous die hard/life and death mentality of "Robron" fanatics is starting to annoy me so I'm kinda glad this happened ”

I think they tend to live on social media and are psychologically impacted by it. This is a soap. There was a reason they made Robert bi. In the car they laid out Aaron's insecurities. They also had Robert say he was trying to change but he couldn't promise he wouldn't slip up. They have to put these frailties into the characters because they need to put some drama on the screen. They are going to get married and then at some stage separate. What will these fans do if at some stage one or other of the actors decide to leave. This kind of fanatical fandom is not healthy.
Gwen_PYC
16-11-2016
I like Robert with Rebecca and Aaron, but the drama lies in his relationship with Aaron. Aaron has the strong ties to people in the village.Yes, there might be a wedding, but that does not mean that Robert and Aaron actually get married. Aaron will have to deal with Robert's infidelity.Unlike Rebecca, I expect Robert to have a one nightstand with Rebecca at some point, regret it and be desperate to cover it up. Maybe he does something that results in Chas going into a coma and off the show for a while. I think it will be great drama.

Originally Posted by margarite6666:
“I think they tend to live on social media and are psychologically impacted by it. This is a soap. There was a reason they made Robert bi. In the car they laid out Aaron's insecurities. They also had Robert say he was trying to change but he couldn't promise he wouldn't slip up. They have to put these frailties into the characters because they need to put some drama on the screen. They are going to get married and then at some stage separate. What will these fans do if at some stage one or other of the actors decide to leave. This kind of fanatical fandom is not healthy.”

I agree.
CollieWobbles
16-11-2016
FFS what a load of stuff and nonsense, this turgid tedious crap is ruining the entire show. If TPTB at ED HQ want to put Robert with Rebecca let them! Whether they want him to talk to her, kiss her or take her six ways form Sunday on every square inch of Aaron's tear stained bed, they can! They can (or should) be able to do what they please with them, ED belongs to ITV not a bunch of screaming rabid fanatic obsessed fans. Somebody throw a large bloody sheet over the lot to stop them squawking like they do with annoying birds twittering in a cage.
samcains90
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“This was stated on Twitter but like someone said there was a Chrissie and Robert wedding, Pete and Debbie, Megan and Leyla...etc etc.”

Seems to me some people are forgetting the basic rules of writing.
Or at least do not know them.

Basic rule No. 1: Stories are driven by conflict.

Robron's story is that they're getting married. If both characters want to get married then there's no conflict and therefore no story. That means that Aaron & Robert will be pretty much absent until the wedding - unless they're involved in others stories.
Yes, I know some would love scenes that are just them being together and arranging their wedding but that's only going to please a certain percentage and won't drive any plots forward.
If there's no conflict within themselves or their relationship then they have to have some obstacle to overcome, cue Rebecca and her past with Robert.

It's just another obstacle for them to overcome to get their happy ending.
How long they'll have a happy ending is certainly up for discussion, in soap world there's always a new story for these characters so who knows?
FingersAndToes
16-11-2016
Anyone who thought Robert wouldn't cheat hasn't really seen this character. Of course he will cheat. Robron will get married with this cheating secret as tge dark cloud on top of them. I hope the actress playing Rebecca is prepared fir tge gate she'll get on social media.
Ancalagon
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by margarite6666:
“I think they tend to live on social media and are psychologically impacted by it. This is a soap. There was a reason they made Robert bi. In the car they laid out Aaron's insecurities. They also had Robert say he was trying to change but he couldn't promise he wouldn't slip up. They have to put these frailties into the characters because they need to put some drama on the screen. They are going to get married and then at some stage separate. What will these fans do if at some stage one or other of the actors decide to leave. This kind of fanatical fandom is not healthy.”

Totally agree! It's incredibly worrying to be honest how obsessive they are about it. It makes me feel they like they probably have a secret shrine to "robron" with candles and pictures etc.
Jade_Streisand
16-11-2016
I definitely saw the chemistry between them and its a shame he is with Aaron as they would of be heaps better ruling Emmerdale from home farm being a power couple but oh no the producers wouldn't dare to split knobron up would they. Also ppl who say they don't have chemistry must be watching a different show or are robroners trying to convince themselves that they didn't see that Robert had better chemistry with her than him and Aaron ever have.
Jade_Streisand
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“FFS what a load of stuff and nonsense, this turgid tedious crap is ruining the entire show. If TPTB at ED HQ want to put Robert with Rebecca let them! Whether they want him to talk to her, kiss her or take her six ways form Sunday on every square inch of Aaron's tear stained bed, they can! They can (or should) be able to do what they please with them, ED belongs to ITV not a bunch of screaming rabid fanatic obsessed fans. Somebody throw a large bloody sheet over the lot to stop them squawking like they do with annoying birds twittering in a cage.”

Aarons tear stained bed I nearly choked on my cornflakes laughing
Ancalagon
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jade_Streisand:
“I definitely saw the chemistry between them and its a shame he is with Aaron as they would of be heaps better ruling Emmerdale from home farm being a power couple but oh no the producers wouldn't dare to split knobron up would they. Also ppl who say they don't have chemistry must be watching a different show or are robroners trying to convince themselves that they didn't see that Robert had better chemistry with her than him and Aaron ever have.”

Totally agree with the BIB - some people have even said thy could see Rob and Rebecca as brother and sister lol - I find the idea that a "brother and sister" would flirt so heavily to be deeply disturbing haha

Also as for the Robron fans- I just read a DS article that has reported on their twitter reactions from Rob and Rebecca's kiss- My god they are crazy lol Some of them have ranted on in big massive posts- you'd think there Dad had just cheated on their Mother! they need to get a grip haha
trevon1
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Totally agree with the BIB - some people have even said thy could see Rob and Rebecca as brother and sister lol - I find the idea that a "brother and sister" would flirt so heavily to be deeply disturbing haha

Also as for the Robron fans- I just read a DS article that has reported on their twitter reactions from Rob and Rebecca's kiss- My god they are crazy lol Some of them have ranted on in big massive posts- you'd think there Dad had just cheated on their Mother! they need to get a grip haha”

Ha! I'm hoping the people who do those rants are quite young. So it was perfectly fine for Robert to have an affair with Aaron, but all he does is kiss Rebecca and the world is ending?

Anyway, my mum always told me it isn't cheating unless you can see a nipple.
Ancalagon
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“Ha! I'm hoping the people who do those rants are quite young. So it was perfectly fine for Robert to have an affair with Aaron, but all he does is kiss Rebecca and the world is ending?”

Mentally they are certainly young. It's worrying how dependant their own happiness is on a fictional couple. Especially when one half of that couple has always been an opportunistic, ruthless, morally bankrupt cheater.

It's amazing what hideous character flaws people will overlook if the person is good looking.

Kinda reminds me of how young girls (and guys probably) used to say they were totally in love with Draco (from the Harry Potter movies) to the point where JK Rowling was like- please stop saying that- he is a nasty, flawed, repugnant bully with massive emotional problems- you just like him because the actor is good looking.

Anyway- slightly off topic there sorry lol
Ancalagon
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“Ha! I'm hoping the people who do those rants are quite young. So it was perfectly fine for Robert to have an affair with Aaron, but all he does is kiss Rebecca and the world is ending?

Anyway, my mum always told me it isn't cheating unless you can see a nipple.”

Please don't apply that logic in your own relationships
sorcha_healy27
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“FFS what a load of stuff and nonsense, this turgid tedious crap is ruining the entire show. If TPTB at ED HQ want to put Robert with Rebecca let them! Whether they want him to talk to her, kiss her or take her six ways form Sunday on every square inch of Aaron's tear stained bed, they can! They can (or should) be able to do what they please with them, ED belongs to ITV not a bunch of screaming rabid fanatic obsessed fans. Somebody throw a large bloody sheet over the lot to stop them squawking like they do with annoying birds twittering in a cage.”



Epic rant collie esp bib
Teifiboi
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jade_Streisand:
“Aarons tear stained bed I nearly choked on my cornflakes laughing ”

If that's the case, then Aaron hasn't changed his sheets in the best part of 9 months! I'm pretty sure that he's not that much of a scruff, and Robert most certainly would not tolerate such a situation.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that Chastity is the one who's taken control of changing the beds in the Woolie - she probably changes Aaron's sheets twice a day!
Mint-Opinion
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Alanna_Housden:
“I don't see any chemistry either. They look like they could be brother and sister.”

About as much chemistry as Robert and Aaron.
Teifiboi
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mint-Opinion:
“About as much chemistry as Robert and Aaron.”

There's a strong element of 'in the eye of the beholder' concerning the rather ill-defined term 'chemistry' in this context. That said, I think that Robert & Aaron are pretty natural and convincing together as a couple - as good as any couple, and better than most, I would say.
Mint-Opinion
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Teifiboi:
“There's a strong element of 'in the eye of the beholder' concerning the rather ill-defined term 'chemistry' in this context. That said, I think that Robert & Aaron are pretty natural and convincing together as a couple - as good as any couple, and better than most, I would say.”

No I'm sorry but they're far from convincing. They are so stiff around each other (no pun intended), and that's even more obvious when they have to kiss or show any affection on screen. I don't know if this is down to having two straight actors playing the roles or the very obvious lack of acting ability from them.
Teifiboi
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mint-Opinion:
“No I'm sorry but they're far from convincing. They are so stiff around each other (no pun intended), and that's even more obvious when they have to kiss or show any affection on screen. I don't know if this is down to having two straight actors playing the roles or the very obvious lack of acting ability from them.”

Well, I disagree with you totally, and I'm not a Robon fan either! I think that they're very natural and convincing, though the story lines give us only glimpses of their moments together. So we'll just have to agree to disagree!
Stupid_Head
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mint-Opinion:
“No I'm sorry but they're far from convincing. They are so stiff around each other (no pun intended), and that's even more obvious when they have to kiss or show any affection on screen. I don't know if this is down to having two straight actors playing the roles or the very obvious lack of acting ability from them.”

I think they work as well as Danny Miller allows with a love interest tbh, if you remember the dark days of Jackson and Hazel he has improved... Ryan Hawley has good chemistry with a few other actors though, I was sure they were going to start an affair between Robert and Charity for a while for instance.
lucy_marwood
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Teifiboi:
“Well, I disagree with you totally, and I'm not a Robon fan either! I think that they're very natural and convincing, though the story lines give us only glimpses of their moments together. So we'll just have to agree to disagree!”

For someone who isn't a Robron fan you do an amazing impression of one.
Teifiboi
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by lucy_marwood:
“For someone who isn't a Robron fan you do an amazing impression of one.”

I'm not a Robron fan in the sense that I'm not really bothered whether they're an item or not. I've always liked Aaron and I quite like Robert too. If they progress as a couple, then I have no problem with that, but if they go their separate ways, then I'll be happy with that too!
Mint-Opinion
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Teifiboi:
“Well, I disagree with you totally, and I'm not a Robon fan either! I think that they're very natural and convincing, though the story lines give us only glimpses of their moments together. So we'll just have to agree to disagree!”

NO!! Everyone has to agree with me!!!
Teifiboi
16-11-2016
Originally Posted by Stupid_Head:
“I think they work as well as Danny Miller allows with a love interest tbh, if you remember the dark days of Jackson and Hazel he has improved... Ryan Hawley has good chemistry with a few other actors though, I was sure they were going to start an affair between Robert and Charity for a while for instance.”

I don't think that it is a matter of Danny Miller 'allowing' or 'improving', though there is little doubt, in my mind, that Danny developed as an actor when he was away from the show and has continued to develop since his return.

Back in the days of Jackson, Aaron was very much unhappy in his skin as a gay man, and that's what we saw portrayed on the screen. We saw real development in Aaron during his time with Jackson and, by the time that he left with Ed, he was much more at ease.

Since his return to the show, Aaron has given, to me at any rate, the impression of being totally at ease with himself as a gay man.

There's never going to be anything too explicit in an early evening show like Emmerdale but, recently, we have seen what seems, to me at any rate, to have been glimpses of genuine affection between Aaron & Robert. It looks as if Rebecca may rock the boat, or even upset the apple cart, to mix my metaphors, but that's all part of the drama. Whatever happens, together or apart, I shall continue to enjoy watching Aaron, in particular, and Robert. They make up for having to endure the antics of a number of the other characters who I find to be totally loathesome!
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